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Rivotril is a long acting benzo - same as Xanax in potency I guess, but not as strong in term sof kicking in etc. etc. But hey, I'm down to 2 x 2 mg Clonazepam atm.
 
If you're designing elaborate exercise plans like that, chances are you're pretty high right now. As soon as you feel the first bit of discomfort you'll crawl straight into bed, and I think that's the way to go. Fuck rowing when you're in benzo withdrawal! And seriously man, fuck barbituates too! Why would you set yourself up for failure like that? Just make the reductions heaps slowly and in small amounts, I got of a massive xanax dose like that. You gotta want it, otherwise you're kidding yourself.
 
Clonaz is nasty shit mate, best way to come off benzos is to tape down definatly, i found with the bigger doses of benzo i was on the bigger the cut would be, for insance at 4mg of clonaz i was dropping .25mg every few weeks, i think you can tollerate bigger cuts but eventually when you start to feel w/d then you cut less and less then eventually move to vallium. Thats what i did and it took a while but eventually i got off them the paws are fucking horrible though 9 months out and im going through hardcore paws.
 
Sorry to hear that bikkimuncher. Shoulda just stuck to munching on dem bikkies. But who could blame you?
 
This is a horrible plan for ending your addiction Mr. Squiggle.

I doubt you could even beat this yourself, and yeah forget the resistance training...

You should take the advice and go see a doctor. They will most likely switch you to only valium, and work out a taper plan for you. If you arent willing to stick with this for a few months forget about it. You have no chance in getting off benzos...

You have got yourself a nice tolerance there either way you're in for a world of pain fixing this problem dude, but make it easier on yourself and sort this problem out properly the first time. Go get some help and do this right.

Goodluck.

PS: Dude seriously what were you smoking when you came up with that exercise regimen? lol... Nice and high when you came up with that no bloody doubt haha.
 
8L4YN3 said:
PS: Dude seriously what were you smoking when you came up with that exercise regimen? lol... Nice and high when you came up with that no bloody doubt haha.
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haha. Yeah I know. I have been kickboxing for several years, and weight training for like 10. And I couldn't be fucked with an exercise plan like that, no way!

I like to keep pretty fit, but when I went through benzo withdrawals (and I was only taking 40-50mg vals a day for about 6 weeks), I managed kickboxing training once and had to spew afterwards, and weight training a few times. The nausea really stops you doing much strenuous exercise.

Mr Squiggle; apart from all the other advice about doctors I have already given you is this. Load up on ginger tablets for the nausea (they do help), eat regular meals (you won't feel like it, but do it), keep social to keep your mind off the pain, do LIGHT exercise, like go for a walk or a swim, take some herbal shit for the insomnia.

other than that codeine helped - but don't abuse it otherwise you are replacing one addiction for another. weed may help if your already a smoker. I'm not so I don't know personally if it will work.

Stay the fuck away from booze. When you are hungover the withdrawals are increased by like 5! No joke!

TAPER PROPERLY AND SLOWLY AND SEE A DOCTOR - BEST ADVICE YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR.
 
Oh yeah, and your going to have to be a good boy and stay off pretty much all stims, psychedelics, booze etc. pretty much all drugs. consider it as an opportunity for a healthy lifestyle change.

Also, I recommend going and seeing a psychologist (If you aren't already) to help you through this time, and maybe talk about why you were abusing benzos in the first place. Alot of people who end up abusing benzos have issues with anxiety and depression - it provides a temporary psychological pain relief, before it introduces you to a whole new nightmare.

you can get a referal from a psychologist from your GP so you can claim it on medicare. After a few sessions it ends up being pretty cheap. If you PM and your from melbourne I can recommend someone excellent.
 
bikki_muncher69 said:
Clonaz is nasty shit mate, best way to come off benzos is to tape down definatly, i found with the bigger doses of benzo i was on the bigger the cut would be, for insance at 4mg of clonaz i was dropping .25mg every few weeks, i think you can tollerate bigger cuts but eventually when you start to feel w/d then you cut less and less then eventually move to vallium.
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Yeah a slow taper on the benzo you've been using then to vallium works for a lot of people.

I was on 60mg diazepam daily about 5 years ago...not a huge dose compared to some people but it was still wrecking my life. Was mixing it with oxycodone, codeine and morphine...even though I realised how dangerous the combo was I thought I had it all sorted at the time.

Can't remember my taper schedule but do remember I took it slow. Had a really good doctor who knew her stuff...didn't force me to come off but at the same time gave me just enough pressure while reminding me what I wanted. Went on effexor temporarily while I was tapering...not sure if it helped or not to be honest. Saw a good psychologist experienced with anxiety and people taking benzos which definitely helped.

Anyway, I successfully tapered down to nothing and haven't had a benzo since. PAWs was no fun but got over it relatively quickly...6 months and it was gone. Don't get me wrong it was hard...totally doable though and life is WAY better afterwards.

Good advice above! Exercise and staying FAR away from stims, pills, weed, booze is golden advice...makes things ten times harder if you've got to deal with hangovers/comedowns.

Try and keep stress levels low as well...stay away from 'difficult' people, or people that'll temp you to abuse other drugs. Not always possible but it'll help if you can do this.

You might feel like hiding in the house but as psytaco said get out and be with 'good' people, it'll help get your mind off yourself. Going for long walks helped with the insomnia, when I was feeling a bit better I started running and still do this at least 4 times a week - I reckon running helped more with any anxiety/depression than any drug I took or doctor/psychologist I saw.
 
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Thanks guys.

No doubt I was high when I cam up with that exercise routine.

I've come to realize that a pill won't help my speech any better.

Guys, I already have 1 drug doctor who's a GP who deals with a lot of 'down and out' type people on an everyday basis.

I'm still feeling anxiety at 4 mg a day of Clonazepam! I reckon that I should hit up Biala, then use their conversion table (0.5 mg of clonazepam is equivelant to 5 mg of Diazepam), which would put me in a dose range of 8 x 5 mg of Valium a day.
 
My friend suffered anxiety from dropping 5mg of valium a week and ended up going down 2.5mg so it is highly likely that no matter how you taper you will get some anxiety but it won't be as bad with tapering than going cold turkey.
 
fuck me 5mg of clonaz and 2 beers makes me pass out cold to the world for 3-4 hs, a sonic boom wouldn't wake me. I hate the stuff.

Mind you, it'd not prescribed to me.
 
lostNfound said:
fuck me 5mg of clonaz and 2 beers makes me pass out cold to the world for 3-4 hs, a sonic boom wouldn't wake me. I hate the stuff.

Mind you, it'd not prescribed to me.
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yeah man, I have a tolerance to benzos, and more than one 2mg Xanax knocks me out or at least fucks me sideways.
 
Once I get initial tolerance to benzos, after the first few days of continuous dosing I can dose incredibly high with benzos and will never pass out, which in unfortunate because I black out and just keep dosing. Last time I had xanax I was popping 5-6 bars and still driving (don't do it please) etc. Although I was severely fucked up, clonaz was just as bad.. maybe worse because the half-life leads to a massive build up.
 
Benzos stink, make me so depressed valium does sweet F all to me. I love clonezepam though with my methadone, makes me nice and buffered to the world. I'm i am having a freak out day, this combo helps me face the world. Yeah but remember low dose, as it can be deadly mixing the two thought i throw that in.

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drug_FUCKED said:
Phenobarb is not scripted in australia for benzo detox you need to know a doctor.
Yeah barbs is what got me off benzos.



To the above poster.

Yes, I can confirm Pheobarbitone is precribed fro benzo withdrawral, especially in newborns.
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