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Is Opiates Bad For You ?

Darvocet is fucking useless too IMO.....

It never did a damn thing for me, even when I first started out....
 
Long term use of hydrocodone and other -codones can lead to a decreased immune system, decrease in testosterone -> problems in the sack to infertility, and hearing loss. With methadone, you may run into heart arrhythmias due to a q-t elongation.. These are just a couple nasty side-effects that people don't hear much about..
 
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capRx said:
Long term use of hydrocodone and other -codones can lead to a decreased immune system, decrease in testosterone -> problems in the sack to infertility, and hearing loss. With methadone, you may run into heart arrhythmias due to a q-t elongation.. These are just a couple nasty side-effects that people don't hear much about..
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There is always side effects with drugs. Have you seen the side effects of alcohol? They are worse than any opiate imo.
 
There can be negative health effects.......

but nothing like with Meth/Crack/alcohol IMO.....
 
capRx said:
Long term use of hydrocodone and other -codones can lead to a decreased immune system, decrease in testosterone -> problems in the sack to infertility, and hearing loss. With methadone, you may run into heart arrhythmias due to a q-t elongation.. These are just a couple nasty side-effects that people don't hear much about..
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Some of those are just side effects and the ones like decreased immune system and decrease in testosterone come from opiate "abuse". If using opiates correctly you won't suffer stuff like that. You may run into heart problems with Methadone but that's because its a synthetic. Natural and semi-synthetics don't cause problems like that.
 
Ripamaru said:
Darvocet is fucking useless too IMO.....

It never did a damn thing for me, even when I first started out....
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Absolutely right. The most pointless opioid under the sun. It's banned here in the UK to most patients, purely because the risks almost always outweigh the benefits.

Anyway, as has been pointed out, medicinal or responsible opioid use will cause almost NO long-term health problems. Abuse however can mess up your neurochemistry quite badly, which should be considered a 'bad for you' criterion in my opinion. But that's only in long-term abuse.
 
Morphoid said:
Absolutely right. The most pointless opioid under the sun. It's banned here in the UK to most patients, purely because the risks almost always outweigh the benefits.

Anyway, as has been pointed out, medicinal or responsible opioid use will cause almost NO long-term health problems. Abuse however can mess up your neurochemistry quite badly, which should be considered a 'bad for you' criterion in my opinion. But that's only in long-term abuse.
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It was just banned in the U.S. also about 3 or 4 months ago because of potential heart problems, including heart attacks.
 
The discussions here seem to be very conflicting, the reason I made this topic was because I was diagnosed with a damaged Autonomic Nervous System which is unrelated to opiates but because of this neurological condition, I experience adverse reactions and hypersensitivities to my opiate based pain medication.

During these reactions I get all sorts of intense weird symptoms sometimes effecting my vitals and other times odd sensations like a build up of pressure in my skull and sinuses, wriggling and tickling sensations in my brain, muscle spasms, feeling confused, agitated, sedated etc so I'm wondering how much of that is doing physical damage or killing brain cells.

After the opiate wears off I feel fine but I'm still curious as to any physical repercussions opiates may have on the body in general, as I have to be extra cautious in maintaining my health due to the medical condition I already have.
 
No they aren't technically bad for you, at least in their pure form. Acetaminophen for example is bad for you though so if you're using vicodin (hydrocodone/acetaminophen) you have to be careful.

I don't think there would be as many health problems associated with opiates if they were more accepted and available. It's the lifestyle that gets people more than the drug, having to spend hours a day every day trying to score puts a strain on your life to say the least. If you can't afford your habit this creates even more problems. The main health risks are when people shoot up more than they can handle due to not knowing the purity of what they scored if they got it on the street.

I think the most unhealthy thing about opiates is the way they take over your life when you're addicted to them. I don't think they're bad for you though, actually this is common knowledge to anyone who does a little research. Unfortunately too many people just believe whatever propaganda is being shoved down their throats.

I always thought opiates were the healthiest of drugs until I saw a friend turn blue after shooting up, that scared me and made me realize the possible dangers. Still these dangers could be avoided if addicts weren't forced to score on the street. I think it's the lifestyle and the desperation that accompanies opiate addiction that leads to OD's and needle sharing.

So basically in their natural form opiates aren't bad for you but addiction is. The GI problems can be overcome or at least dealt with if you eat right and keep some Miralax or Milk of Magnesia around.

Alcohol fucked me up waaaay more than opiates, but the average person has a skewed view of opiates imo. A hundred years ago society didn't condemn opiates the way they do today. I think this is a little messed up considering alcohol is legal and it's acceptable to be an alcoholic to some extent but not an opiate addict.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Some of those are just side effects and the ones like decreased immune system and decrease in testosterone come from opiate "abuse". If using opiates correctly you won't suffer stuff like that.
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No, a decrease in testosterone comes from using opiates in larger amounts over time. I know a lot of people who are on testosterone replacements during pain management and they are taking their opiates as prescribed; not abusing them.

-cap
 
Altered Perception said:
The discussions here seem to be very conflicting, the reason I made this topic was because I was diagnosed with a damaged Autonomic Nervous System which is unrelated to opiates but because of this neurological condition, I experience adverse reactions and hypersensitivities to my opiate based pain medication.

During these reactions I get all sorts of intense weird symptoms sometimes effecting my vitals and other times odd sensations like a build up of pressure in my skull and sinuses, wriggling and tickling sensations in my brain, muscle spasms, feeling confused, agitated, sedated etc so I'm wondering how much of that is doing physical damage or killing brain cells.

After the opiate wears off I feel fine but I'm still curious as to any physical repercussions opiates may have on the body in general, as I have to be extra cautious in maintaining my health due to the medical condition I already have.
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Do you take your opiates with NSAID's or aspirin? I've heard of elderly patients becoming confused after the use of aspirin.. if someone ever come to me complaining of these symptoms, I would tell them to stop the drug because it would seem the side effects aren't worth the relief, but idk.. Is the pain relief you get worth it? Have you tried anything else for pain like gabapentin/pregabalin, SNRI's, TCA's (ex: amitriptyline)..?
 
The sedation and irritability are normal side effects.

The others are not to my knowledge.

I have never heard of any long term damage to brain cells or organs outside of street use and darvocet.
 
Altered Perception said:
The discussions here seem to be very conflicting, the reason I made this topic was because I was diagnosed with a damaged Autonomic Nervous System which is unrelated to opiates but because of this neurological condition, I experience adverse reactions and hypersensitivities to my opiate based pain medication.

During these reactions I get all sorts of intense weird symptoms sometimes effecting my vitals and other times odd sensations like a build up of pressure in my skull and sinuses, wriggling and tickling sensations in my brain, muscle spasms, feeling confused, agitated, sedated etc so I'm wondering how much of that is doing physical damage or killing brain cells.

After the opiate wears off I feel fine but I'm still curious as to any physical repercussions opiates may have on the body in general, as I have to be extra cautious in maintaining my health due to the medical condition I already have.
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My cousin gets agitated & sometimes has high blood pressure the next following day after taking opiates. Maybe it has something to do with his A.D.D. I dont know.

I take my blood pressure when im on opiates & its normal, even the next day. Opiates dont nauseate me like they use too.

I suggest you look into something else for your pain if you have some kind of damaged nerves.
 
Aside from addiction and overdose, opiates are a relatively gentle drug when it comes to responsible long-term use. Side effects like constipation, drowsiness and nausea are common with opiates but organ damage is not.

Many of the OTHER stuff they put in opiate medications--acetaminophen, ibuprofen--is far worse for your liver and other organs than opiates.
 
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