• MDMA &
    Empathogenic
    Drugs

    Welcome Guest!
  • MDMA Moderators: Esperighanto

Mephedrone

mephedrone is absolutely awesome, as long as its decent drone. far too much shit stuff around now, cant find any decent stuff anymore so gave it up awhile ago. sometimes i do lines here and there when i get offered them, but it always turns out to be shit. i miss the days of pre-ban meph, many fucking incredible nights at raves grinding my teeth, licking my lips, feeling amazing with massive pupils and a huge feeling of empathy for everything. these days its back on the old expensive alcohol, feeling monged out and staggering around
 
ColtDan said:
mephedrone is absolutely awesome, as long as its decent drone. far too much shit stuff around now, cant find any decent stuff anymore so gave it up awhile ago. sometimes i do lines here and there when i get offered them, but it always turns out to be shit. i miss the days of pre-ban meph, many fucking incredible nights at raves grinding my teeth, licking my lips, feeling amazing with massive pupils and a huge feeling of empathy for everything. these days its back on the old expensive alcohol, feeling monged out and staggering around
Click to expand...


Amen.
 
mephedrone is nothing like mdma at all.. mephedrone is more closely related to methamphetamine in terms of effects. I HATE when people try to associate this dirty drug with mdma... mephedrone is disgusting, and belongs with tweakers.

On the other hand.. METHYLONE (bk-mdma) is very very very similar in terms of effects to mdma.. and is a much better, cleaner drug than mephedrone..
 
afrojack said:
^^Any idea on the dose? The first couple times i tried meph in oral doses around 100mg the rolling feeling didnt last after about 2hrs, but I have definitely had that feeling after a couple of binges. I wouldnt expect the crash to be nearly as bad as mdma after only 1 time, but after a few day binge its not so fun.
Click to expand...

I take 450mg and weigh 91kg (4.94mg/kg) my gf takes 400mg@54kg (7.4mg/kg). I had to do a good amount of experimenting to find the right dose for me. Some people may think these doses are high, but they work for me. As I said in my earlier post, i have taken 100-600mg. Although 600mg was a little more then i wanted, I was too jittery to have a good time, but the 30mg of dextroamphetamine could have complicated that night.
 
Eyes On the Roll said:
mephedrone is nothing like mdma at all.. mephedrone is more closely related to methamphetamine in terms of effects. I HATE when people try to associate this dirty drug with mdma... mephedrone is disgusting, and belongs with tweakers.

On the other hand.. METHYLONE (bk-mdma) is very very very similar in terms of effects to mdma.. and is a much better, cleaner drug than mephedrone..
Click to expand...

Totally agree with you. Much nicer. Very short come up and down but nice when youre in the middle of it. And you can sleep. I cant believe theres still some people who havent heard of these substances. Last year was a mental year for them. Theyre even being talked about on TV shows. All banned in Ireland now. Thanks government as always
 
I enjoy mephedrone and find it very euphoric and meaningful- I don't enjoy "tweaking" and never have, so I don't agree, or like the tweaker commentary....

People seem to respond quite differently to mephedrone- some just don't feel they roll from it long or intensely enough to make it worth it, some people absolutely adore it and go overboard with the stuff. I find mephedrone to be a better "party" drug than MDMA, it's far more clear headed, happy and social than MDMA. Someone described it as "what you want ecstasy and cocaine to feel like", and that's pretty accurate in my book. It's energizing to a pleasant extent, but most of all it's just happy happy happy. I enjoy remembering the entire DJ set, the names and faces of people I've met, not saying/doing something ridiculous (LOL!), and I can count on mephedrone for that.

I find the experience, and the entire lack of come-down to feel much "cleaner" than MDMA. I think there is a certain sense of security with the fact that MDMA has been around and used longer, but in reality, MDMA is a fairly new and unknown drug by comparison to others too.

I enjoy methylone too- but find that methylone feels exactly like MDMA, but less intense and not as long lasting. I don't know how it really compares in terms of risks and damage to mephedrone, but the one thing I do enjoy about methylone is that you can usually sleep a full night afterwards. I tend to have a hard time sleeping as it is, but I still manage to et 4 or so good hours after a mephedrone night, and I've never had depression or a come down from mephedrone. Love it!
 
different batches of meph gave me different effects. the stuff i first started doing made me feel very tweaked, extremely speedy, rushing around everywhere, effortless glide walk it felt like. other stuff ive done has nearly put me to sleep, very euphoric and mashed with a "floored" feeling. with all bathes the fucking vasoconstriction i got eventually got worse and worse, wasn't too healthy. good for my heath that i cant get drone anymore tbh
 
i find the attitude "mdma is so good and pure and clean and those other drugs are pure garbage" irritating in its simplicity and dualistic thinking.

mdma is indisputably neurotoxic to some degree. both drugs have different appeals and negative side-effects, and much be judged individually by a prospective user, but to say that either one is beautiful or ugly and evil seems naive.

i prefer 4mmc to mdma because it gets me far far higher, i dont feel as fucked up or cloudy, i can dance better on it, and i find the comedown far more bearable, as i get terrible depression from mdma.

4mmc does tend to be habit-forming psychologically because redosing works much more effectively and can be strung out longer, so perhaps 4mmc requires more willpower to use in a responsible manner. also the fact that the high is just so good. it feels like what i wish doing coke + molly was like.

there are many reports of serious cardiac issues and vasoconstriction, but i know many people who use 4mmc and none of them have experiences these to any degree that would be cause for concern/hospitalization. i have to wonder whether these issues are really that much more likely to result from 4mmc use than other stimulants such as meth and cocaine.

of course, the academic research is just not there, and this gives one pause for concern. however what work has been done doesnt appear to pin 4mmc as significantly worse than other stimulant drugs of abuse.

there are some other pros and cons of both, including availability and purity issues. my main point is, between mdma and 4mmc one isnt good or bad, neither is good for you, do the research and decide for yourself.

methylone is a really nice 4mmc alternative, appears to be less neurotoxic than mdma or 4mmc, but snorting doesnt work very well. if youre planning on eating your drug anyway, M1 is the best way to go as far as mdma substitutes. i like it more than molly personally.
 
blue_locus said:
i find the attitude "mdma is so good and pure and clean and those other drugs are pure garbage" irritating in its simplicity and dualistic thinking.

mdma is indisputably neurotoxic to some degree. both drugs have different appeals and negative side-effects, and much be judged individually by a prospective user, but to say that either one is beautiful or ugly and evil seems naive.

i prefer 4mmc to mdma because it gets me far far higher, i dont feel as fucked up or cloudy, i can dance better on it, and i find the comedown far more bearable, as i get terrible depression from mdma.

4mmc does tend to be habit-forming psychologically because redosing works much more effectively and can be strung out longer, so perhaps 4mmc requires more willpower to use in a responsible manner. also the fact that the high is just so good. it feels like what i wish doing coke + molly was like.

there are many reports of serious cardiac issues and vasoconstriction, but i know many people who use 4mmc and none of them have experiences these to any degree that would be cause for concern/hospitalization. i have to wonder whether these issues are really that much more likely to result from 4mmc use than other stimulants such as meth and cocaine.

of course, the academic research is just not there, and this gives one pause for concern. however what work has been done doesnt appear to pin 4mmc as significantly worse than other stimulant drugs of abuse.

there are some other pros and cons of both, including availability and purity issues. my main point is, between mdma and 4mmc one isnt good or bad, neither is good for you, do the research and decide for yourself.

methylone is a really nice 4mmc alternative, appears to be less neurotoxic than mdma or 4mmc, but snorting doesnt work very well. if youre planning on eating your drug anyway, M1 is the best way to go as far as mdma substitutes. i like it more than molly personally.
Click to expand...

While I agree with you in general, I just want to emphasize that the serious cardiac issues and vasoconstriction reported with mephedrone are very real. Sure, it's not like you will get them even if you binge for a week or so, but still some people do report these issues. You can't deny it.

For better or for worse, MDMA has been used recreationally for over 25 years, with relatively little to show in terms of significant long term damage.

I am not trying to bitch about mephedrone, I am just saying that MDMA does have an important benefit in that it's a drug that's been used for a while with relatively few side effects for most users.
 
ive experienced some nasty vasoconstriction. numb hands, red knuckles, pins and needles, cold fingers. infact ive experienced pretty much all the side effects. the high is amazing but the side effects are brutal
 
Hey guys maybe you can help me out. I know substance ID is not allowed, but I'm just asking if this marquis reaction color could result in presence of mephedrone .. My buddy bought what he thought was molly and it looked like shit to me. I offered to use my marquis tester on it and the color turned dark yellow/dark-greenish yellow. I thought it was 2-cb so I decided to parachute a little with my friend.

I became extremely happy and social. It felt like a combo between coke/mdma, I was extremely happy/horny but was fiending for more... like one fiends for coke. Wound up doing more. I felt like a total addict by the end of the night and had a bit of a comedown.

From what I've read, 2-cb is more psychedelic than my experiences with that substance. My question is, what is the marquis reaction color for mephedrone?
 
FrankieBonez said:
My question is, what is the marquis reaction color for mephedrone?
Click to expand...
Dunno. But if you take a quick look at the dosage range for mephedrone compared with that for 2C-B, it is quite obvious this substance can never be mephedrone. Sounds MDPV'ish, but I imagine the comedown would have been more severe and it also does not make sense to sell MDPV as MDMA.

littlebaggies said:
3rd_I_blind: I made the right choice and didn't do anything. I'm lame!
Click to expand...
Nah, it's not lame mate. Making choices as a responsible adult feels lame most of the time, but just compare that to the fucked-up shitty feeling if the other option would have turned out to be a not-so-good-idea. You wouldn't be the first guy to lose custody over one weekend of partying hard.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top