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With respect mate, that entertainment package with just about any drugs would cause an argument in my brain.
The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread
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With respect mate, that entertainment package with just about any drugs would cause an argument in my brain.
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Hahahaha! Phantom Menace was barely tolerable when I saw it at the cinema smacked off me tits. Can't imagine how shite it would be on psyches/dissociatives :D
nanoshot
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Whats 28mg sublingual and then a measily 16mg an hour later going to do?? And then you try to watch a movie? You need to take a bigger dose up front all at once, relax on the couch in a semi dark room with colored lights and candles while listening to some type of repetitious K-hole music playing in your headphones with your eyes shut so it takes you on a journey. You didn't do enough up front and you were trying to understand a movie? Set the mood..
yeah screw being itty bitty about it (unless you havnt already taken an allergy dose) hoover up a sizeable amount to your preference. Sit or lay in a nice dark room, I find mxe NEEDS music other wise i feel rather empty and just cotch about enjoying the ride. If you need to top up , just top up with small mgs. I love this substance, I love how gentle it is, and lets you control the ride. But I once took it for granted and had a pretty tough time.
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im just quoting this because i love your name.
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Opiyumphile
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I have tried MXE twice now and I was reminded a great deal of that warm opi glow we love so much. (and I take 2-4mgs Bupe daily)
I wrote a report in the Bupe/MXE threadhere.
Honestly I can't see how my MXE experience could be any better by not being on Subs. I don't know the whole story on the pharmacodynamics/kinetics of MXE but so far as I can tell Bupe has no effect on it.
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I second this. Doses under 25-30 mg insufflated I and others I have shared with find the experience uninteresting and unproductive. But that changes radically by the time I hit 40-50 and lie down with a mindfold and some tunes. For those into this kind of experience, check out The Psychedelic Avengers and the Curse of the Universe for a 70 minute romp through your subconscious. Just look up the track list and tell me it won't be phenomenal! You can thank me after you experience it
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I second this. Doses under 25-30 mg insufflated I and others I have shared with find the experience uninteresting and unproductive. But that changes radically by the time I hit 40-50 and lie down with a mindfold and some tunes. For those into this kind of experience, check out The Psychedelic Avengers and the Curse of the Universe for a 70 minute romp through your subconscious. Just look up the track list and tell me it won't be phenomenal! You can thank me after you experience it
That's interesting. I've only done 25 milligrams once and 35 milligrams once(both intranasal) and uninteresting/unproductive are the last words I would use to describe it. I really enjoy the low dose effects actually.
I wonder if my being on Buprenorphine is somehow potentiating the experience or at least certain aspects of the experience? Maybe with the Bupe and Norbuprenorphine blocking/occupying the opioid receptors the Methoxetamine has no choice but to move on to the other receptors that mediate its other effects. Of course that's just wild, mostly uninformed, speculation.
I don't know...Once I do get to the dose where walking is out of the question maybe I too will share your sentiment.
Oh and thanks for the music suggestion. Since trying this I have been looking for something I can put on that I won't have to mess with for over an hour.
Funny thing. One time on a dxm trip I watched the first three movies in a row. Was completely content and happy through them all. I got really into it.
Hijack1968
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hahaha, agreed.This is 1 combo ill try to stay clear of..
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amanitadine
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Wild speculation indeed.
have you taken any other NMDA antagonists? The effects you are feeling are due primarily to Methoxetamine's NMDA antagonism. The mu agonist effects are quite slight, and certainly overpowered by any amount of buprenorphine. But it is a grand feeling, no? 
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Perhaps I was a bit rash in my description. When used with another person, and therefore tied a bit to reality and unable to let go so much, both people experienced just a somewhat annoying but neutral head buzz (normal for NMDA antagonists) and a clean dissociation. From my personal perspective, and my friends comments, the headspace did not provide its own euphoria and was not particularly suited to this use. There wasn't much to work with just chatting or tossing something purdy on to watch. I have only tried it twice in smaller doses with other people. It is possible I don't get much of the mu agonist effect due to my habitual kratom use, and therefore lose a bit of the low dose magic.
Smaller doses by myself, however, I do find useful. I certainly don't notice any of the opiate glow I hear about. But lying down with headphones and a blindfold, even with awareness of body, is an expansive and interesting experience -- the head buzz disappears. But without these tools I find myself focused on a head buzz without much to it. Medium level doses (30mg) can be entertaining improvising finding entertainment and such, but mostly just a slightly manic, slightly confusing, and mostly unproductive experience. Sure it is a kind of fun thing to do, but did I get anything out of it? Low dose ketamine has a significant tranquilizing effect that allows low doses to be useful in numerous other ways. Methoxetamine lacking this really leaves me with the impression that it is a rather clean feeling NMDA antagonist, with little other effect. And for me the bread and butter of NMDA antagonism, non-mixed anyhow, is deep consciousness exploration.
So there just isn't that much going on at the lower doses, for myself at least, without a bit of coaxing. To be honest I have not tried a higher dose without using the blindfold/music combo at least partially during the night. Workable confusion is an apt enough term for the periods without pre-planned musical or visual absorption. Conscious heaven is apt enough for the periods with a mindfold and appropriate music. (edit: The mindfold is somewhat important. It has spaces for you to open your eyes without your eyelashes or eyes touching anything. You forget you are wearing it and often will not know if you have your eyes open or closed. It even blocks out bright daylight astoundingly well. The last thing one wants is their body calling back to them from beyond unnecessarily. Designed by Alex Grey, interestingly)
@Opiyumphile. Hope you enjoy it, it is PERFECT for the methoxetamine experience. I blew a friends bloody mind with it and at 29 he thought he'd seen everything. The first track is more of a traditional song than most of the others, so don't think you know the whole cd from the first one. I like it that way because it kinda eases you out from waking consciousness while your effects come up. You may have noticed on the above link they also released a 2cd album in the same vein a couple years later. I haven't tried it yet but I imagine 130 or so minutes of greatness.
Another music recommendation. Don't knock it until you've tried it. The LOTR soundtrack. Hours and hours long and I only recognized a few brief parts and they were mostly far into the CD. It is a great soundtrack for your mind to make up epic stories and feelings with.
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Forget the movies and try a girlfriend instead.
Not necessarily a sexual experience, but very sensual.
We normally start with 60mg each (Sub-lingual) then top up with another 40mg about an hour in.
You need to get the music and lighting right, candles are good, lots of candles.
Not necessarily a sexual experience, but very sensual.
We normally start with 60mg each (Sub-lingual) then top up with another 40mg about an hour in.
You need to get the music and lighting right, candles are good, lots of candles.
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Yeh, this is what I will do the next time. Was just being cautious the first time trying a new drug. But now I know that at that level it definetely wasn´t satisfying my expectations. Going to step it up next time.
And yeah, I think phantom menace sucks bad aswell, no matter what I´m on. MXE just made it even worse actually.
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Thinking about plugging. When taken sublingual my whole face numbs dumb like it would be coke. Is it similar effects in the ass? Would not enjoy the inability to keep the MXE inside.
davem
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I'll re-iterate what I've said before - I do have wonderful evenings on aMT (15mg sublingual) then a couple of hours later MXE (15mg sublingual). The aMt is a little slack in coming up, but gets there eventually, then the MXE takes it to a whole different place - lots of fun, loved up, love music, get a bit of the aMT 'inappropriate smiling', which is always fun...and seems to go on for hours...maybe I'm just hyper-susceptible to it...or maybe it's just the fact that I've never slammed the K.
Anyways, all that has been at home so far and I would definitely love to try it out dancing, so, with NYE coming up and I'm booked into a barn and marquees in a field in the middle of nowhere with lots of like minded folk and my favourite musical styles, should I go with this combo, which seems to hold great promise, or try out 2c-i + MXE in a similar way, i.e. low doses, 2c-i first, MXT couple of hours later. I haven't tried much 2c-i yet as it seems to last too long for me to get on with my normal everyday, but NYE is going to be a good long session, so stand a chance of being on the way down before leaving.
Views please - 2c-i + MXE.... 8D
Also, there's a chance there might be some MDMA abouts too - any probs with throwing this in the mix?
Anyways, all that has been at home so far and I would definitely love to try it out dancing, so, with NYE coming up and I'm booked into a barn and marquees in a field in the middle of nowhere with lots of like minded folk and my favourite musical styles, should I go with this combo, which seems to hold great promise, or try out 2c-i + MXE in a similar way, i.e. low doses, 2c-i first, MXT couple of hours later. I haven't tried much 2c-i yet as it seems to last too long for me to get on with my normal everyday, but NYE is going to be a good long session, so stand a chance of being on the way down before leaving.
Views please - 2c-i + MXE.... 8D
Also, there's a chance there might be some MDMA abouts too - any probs with throwing this in the mix?
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i really don't see the big fuss in a drug that just turns you into a spastic with the memory of a goldfish. horribal stuff tried it twice now in small and high doses and hated it. was the first time i tried any dissociative and will be the last too.
i like being mashed but i also like to think straight to a certain extent this stuff just had me walking round the house like a mental patient wondering what hte fuck just happened! lol never again
i like being mashed but i also like to think straight to a certain extent this stuff just had me walking round the house like a mental patient wondering what hte fuck just happened! lol never again
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I love how this drug has me walking round the house like a mental patient wondering what hte fuck just happened!
One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Hijack1968
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I'm with you dave both of these are great on their own but the two together seem to be made for each other. All you need to decide is how far out of your tree you want to be thrown. 15mg of each at the intervals you state is pleasant. 40+mg is a total mind fcuk. If you go for a second MXE boost prepare to go into orbit....
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