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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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quickslide said:
It's far from potent enough for me. 60mg doesn't even take me to level 3.

Using maoi is safe but I'm not sure if it's safe with 4-ho-met. Probably is though..
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"Probably" being the operative word...
Complacency when dealing with experimental compounds can mean becoming a statistic. I know the 4-subbed tryptamines are generally considered safe but you never know...

And 60mg is a shitload of 4-ho-met. I take it you have a considerable tolerance to tryptamines?
 
abrad84 said:
"Probably" being the operative word...
Complacency when dealing with experimental compounds can mean becoming a statistic. I know the 4-subbed tryptamines are generally considered safe but you never know...

And 60mg is a shitload of 4-ho-met. I take it you have a considerable tolerance to tryptamines?
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No, I don't actually, just with 4-ho-met. My friends the same. He did 100mg and actually managed to hit level 3.
 
It's not an impurity issue since everyone in sweden is buying from the same source and some people reach level 4 on 50mg. 4-ho-met is just a really weird substance. People here are dosing 20-180mg.

There must be someone who have tried combining with maoi, no? Or any research on it?
 
Sounds like "everyone in Sweden" is using impure 4-ho-MET, that dose range is all over the chart. If you read through the thread you will see that 20mg produces powerful effects for many.

Did you even read my post regarding MAOi's?

There has been no research done on their use in combination with this particular compound (with it being a completely unresearched experimental psychedelic and all). However, we do know that they are generally allright in combination with 4-subbed tryptamines. There is ALWAYS a risk when using an MAOi. You have to take into account what food and drugs are in your system etc. There may be some interaction between this particular compound and MAOi's that we are unaware of. And of course there's no way of telling how it will react with whatever impurity may or may not be in your 4-ho-MET.
 
yeah, that 20-80mg can't be pure, should be about 50% of that dosage, for all but the craziest of folks anyway... unless everyone likes tripping so hard they're incapacitated for hours on end. The most i've taken at once was 32mg, and while i feel one could take 60, that would be really excessive, like eating a 10 strip or something. In the past i've been wont to do such things, but not so much anymore. And I definitely wouldn't combine an MAOI with something of roughly 50% purity. Its probably cut with something inactive, but who knows, maybe not...
 
abrad84 said:
Sounds like "everyone in Sweden" is using impure 4-ho-MET, that dose range is all over the chart. If you read through the thread you will see that 20mg produces powerful effects for many.
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And I told you many people are dosing 20mg. People get way different experiences on 20mg although its the same batch.
 
Not likely. And alot of people are buying 100mg and splitting it in three parts dosing it that way.
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So they are buying an unknown amount of a compound that is most likely impure and then eyeballing it. Fantastic!

Please, for your own sake, forget this idea of an MAOi combo, at least for the forseeable future.
 
*snip*? I'd like to investigate the impurity question.

Though I'm buying 5-meo-mipt frmo the same source and I have no dosing problems with that...
 
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abrad84 said:
So they are buying an unknown amount of a compound that is most likely impure and then eyeballing it. Fantastic!

Please, for your own sake, forget this idea of an MAOi combo, at least for the forseeable future.
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No they arent. Everyone knows it weighs 100mg since hundreds of people have weight it, including me.
 
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Yes, I know several, but the rules on this site prevent me from sharing this info. There may be another way, I'll get back to you on that...
No they arent. Everyone knows it weighs 100mg since EVERYONE (maybe 3000 buyers?) got the exact amount. Hundreds of people have weight it, including me.
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Good to know. Just so you know, I'm not trying to be an asshole on this matter, just trying to look out for you and your friends. Scandanavian vendors do not exactly have a shining reputation.
 
abrad84 said:
Yes, I know several, but the rules on this site prevent me from sharing this info. There may be another way, I'll get back to you on that...

Good to know. Just so you know, I'm not trying to be an asshole on this matter, just trying to look out for you and your friends. Scandanavian vendors do not exactly have a shining reputation.
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Yea, I know. I'm curious as well. But I don't think it's an impurity issue since most people have good effects on 20mg. Also as I mentioned I've been buying other compunds where my dosage corresponds with others.
 
There have been many cases in the past where one product by a vendor is of good quality whilst another isn't. It is, after all, a completely unregulated market. You are basically talking about online drug dealers in all honesty.
 
abrad84 said:
There have been many cases in the past where one product by a vendor is of good quality whilst another isn't. It is, after all, a completely unregulated market. You are basically talking about online drug dealers in all honesty.
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But still, most people get good effects out of 20mg.
 
Eyeballing is a horribly inaccurate way to go about it, even if its from only 100mg. And if the 100mg was weighed on a 0.1g scale, then it could be anywhere from .05g to 0.15g. I'd advise you to get an 0.001g scale & some capsules. Both of those items will run you a total of $50 and potentially save a whole lot of trouble. Or go with liquid measurement & put say, 100mg in 10mL so people can dose accurately.
 
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any major dude said:
Eyeballing is a horribly inaccurate way to go about it, even if its from only 100mg. And if the 100mg was weighed on a 0.1g scale, then it could be anywhere from .05g to 0.15g. I'd advise you to get an 0.001g scale & some capsules. Both of those items will run you a total of $50 and potentially save a whole lot of trouble. Or go with liquid measurement & put say, 100mg in 10mL so people can dose accurately.
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omg I've bought it a million times so did several thousands of people. The weight is correct. I have a 0,01 scale.
 
any major dude said:
Eyeballing is a horribly inaccurate way to go about it, even if its from only 100mg. And if the 100mg was weighed on a 0.1g scale, then it could be anywhere from .05g to 0.15g. I'd advise you to get an 0.001g scale & some capsules. Both of those items will run you a total of $50 and potentially save a whole lot of trouble. Or go with liquid measurement & put say, 100mg in 10mL so people can dose accurately.
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omg I've bought it a million times so did several thousands of people. The weight is correct. I have a 0,01 scale.

Can we stop focusing on the weight and instead focus why some people (like me) get bad effects from 4-ho-met but not any other tryptamine (so far anyway).
 
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