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Some advice on tripping

So DMT is an alkaloid ? Would'nt GBH (is that the correct abbreviation ?) be an alkaloid ? I remember one day a mate from the Lone Wolves came over with a 1 litre bottle of this clear, oily type liquid that tasted like sodium bicarbonate (basic ingredient in ant-acid). 20ml of that had me to the point were I could hardly speak, which was awesome, but it only lasted 20-30 mins, and a re-dose didn't have anywhere the same effect. When I asked him what it was he didn't know, anyone care to guess what it was ?
 
^ Quite possibly but I havn't tried tripping while being on the meds. If DMT only lasts minutes then it is not for me, it would just be a tease as far as i'm concerned. Oh well, looks like it's back to LSD, cacti or shrooms (if I want to take the risk of picking the wrong ones).
 
Yes I do have an iron stomach I very rarely throw up, I could count on both hands the amount of times in my 44yrs of life. Sorry but I really don't like pot, I don't like the "down" type effect. Stimulant type drugs are my thing. I don't mean to be difficult, it's just i know exactly what I want. But I thank you for your patience with me. I know I've been told to use Google a number of times but I specifically joined here for the amount of combined experience that the members have, they are so friendly here and willing to help out even a newbie.
 
Why_not ? said:
Yeah I've wondered that myself, however others that have taken the same ones have had a much better experience than me, though still not what I would be happy with. So what trips would you recomend ? I don't want to break any rules here but any clue as to where I might start looking for the good ones, I'm not asking for specific places but I'm not really into the club scene. Sorry Mods if this has crossed the line, it isn't my intention.
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Check the whats going around LSD thread 1st page. I dont understand why people are recommending DMT to trip on when he hasnt tripped off acid yet. Jumping on the DMT bandwagon with no pychs experience is very bad. It is intense stuff and only would recommend it for people who can handle psychedelics very well. Even i am sumtimes scared of how powerful it can be.
 
I have tripped off acid when I was in year10 at high school, I had half a "tables and Chairs" which were supposed to be the best LSD around, of course that was 30yrs ago. I really wished I had taken a whole one because I had some reasonably good visuals. It's just now it seems to do not much or what I had been given was piss weak.
 
Sustanon said:
Check the whats going around LSD thread 1st page. I dont understand why people are recommending DMT to trip on when he hasnt tripped off acid yet. Jumping on the DMT bandwagon with no pychs experience is very bad. It is intense stuff and only would recommend it for people who can handle psychedelics very well. Even i am sumtimes scared of how powerful it can be.
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My brother had his first substance last week after muse. Other than booze and bud he hadn't had anything prior. I was quite anxious on the idea but he was so sure of it. He smoked a full cone of changa and was launched into hyperspace ad returned only to say "wow." even though I agree with what you said, I'm now inclined to think that maybe it is a good starting point. There is nothing quite as intense as it, and you don't have any fear of the darkside because you've never experienced it before. It would just be an amazing and awe filled experience in it's purest form.
 
I'm not so sure any amount of previous tripping or research could prepare one for a breakthrough DMT experience. It shatters everything you've ever known... 5 years later and I still struggle to integrate what happened that night. Haven't touched it since. No regrets however. I can handle some really intense times on psychedelics and combos etc, the trips still blow my mind, but DMT was just a whole other level.

I would only consider it 'fun' and 'recreational' at low-medium doses, but at high to breakthrough doses I see it more as an extremely profound, almost religious experience and the closest feeling I've had of a sense of "god". I'm not religious at all, but god has nothing to do with religion ;)
 
^ That last part is something I've come to realize myself recently, though through personal reflection and study, not through psychedelics because I'm broke and have to do it the hard way. :)
 
Hey why_not,

I really think that it might be the benzo'z or tramadol that is reducing your effects as when I was using these drugs years ago I always seemed to have to take a lot more for the same effects as my friends when we were taking LSD and MDxx suubstances.

It really reminded of what I experienced when you said ur mates are off their face and your twiddling your thumbs cause that is exactly how I felt and I didn't believe at the time that they could reduce such powerful drugs as LSD cause I had tripped such balls of them before so I started to think that it was just me and I had become hard headed to these drugs. However once i got of the methadone and stoped benzo's I tripped the light fantastic again just like when I was a fresh young 10th grader.
 
If you wanna get fucked up for a long time try some of these:

High dose mescaline (600mg+)
High dose LSD (500ug+)
High dose shrooms (10 grams dried cubensis)

If your not messed up enough on any of those, then im sure a hit of nitrous or 5 ;) will put you in another place for good periods of time.

I do suggest you try DMT, its nothing to be afraid of, its not going to physically harm you. If you like trying to navigate spaces outside your body then it certainly is one to go for, the space it sends you to is SO UTTERLY alien, yet SO PERSONAL. Its literally like you are the whole universe and have come to a realisation that you are everything, you are the collective consciousness etc etc :)

I mean hey, do one of those high doses up there then smoke some DMT. You will be GONE. for a LONG time. I think dmt is pretty sacred and what not, but ya know at the end of the day its a chemical, just one that happens to have bloody PROFOUND effects. But if you want to use it to get fucked up, it will certainly do the trick.

The drugs ive listed would be phsyically fine for your body. But you may lose your shit. I would reccomend a sitter in the name of harm reduction.
 
LSD still might not provide the trip are looking for. Even without tolerance I found 4 1/2 of the cloud tabs out now (that are supposed to be good) to be weaker than I was hoping for, where as when I first tried tabs they blew my mind at 2.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ That last part is something I've come to realize myself recently, though through personal reflection and study, not through psychedelics because I'm broke and have to do it the hard way. :)
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I came to that conclusion with a sober brain, with lots of previous mind-bending experiences (not all drug-related ;)) Life experiences, combined with the drug experiences.... experiences relating to all kinds of things lead me to that belief. I'm poor/constantly broke too.

If god exists, he's looking down thinking, "what the fuck? this is not what I had planned... silly humans... hmm I think the octopus can have a shot at being the dominate species on the planet" :p;):D
 
^ Hence why he created for us a prophet octopus. ;)

This year has been a mind bending one for me, and not through substances either... a lot of things have happened, some really tragic and sad, others really fantastic and at the end of 2010 I am looking forward and seeing a bright future for myself for once. I know it won't be easy, but nothing in life ever is. I just have to keep building myself up and I will get to where I want to be. :)
 
thickskin said:
LSD still might not provide the trip are looking for. Even without tolerance I found 4 1/2 of the cloud tabs out now (that are supposed to be good) to be weaker than I was hoping for, where as when I first tried tabs they blew my mind at 2.
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Then take more then 4 1/2 clouds :) 500ug is 500ug lol

Or dont get shit tabs?
 
^
Storage is very important with LSD... the clouds have been circulating for months.
 
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