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The Bikie Wars

they defineately dont make anywhere near the amounts thats australia's bikie's do

U do realise that mexican street gangs in la have direct contacts to mexican cartels?????

Do u honestly think that the rebels or bandits move more gear that 18thst or ms13.These guys r getting a kilo of coke "cheaply" from the mexican cartles.And what r u talking about teenagers in gangs yeah there are teenegers in gangs but the shot callers r all older guys and most of the members r guys in their 20s and 30s.Look this bikie war the media is talking about is a bunch of bullshit how many people have died??The DT even reported on a 19yr old bra boy fighting with a 15yr old como is that wat u call a war a buch of kids having a fist fight LOL
 
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Sameria said:
In regards to comparing Australia to the United States, there is quite a few factors to take in.

Another big factor is the difference in Australia and America's minimum wage, social equity and education standard. In Australia the lower classes earn more and are better educated, therefore are less driven to drug related or violent crime.
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spot on and also being an island in the middle of know where does not help



The truth is people in Australia are more civilised look at this mexican drug war people r being kidnapped and beheaded and tortured and burned alive.


in Australia the crims are soft .........if you rough someone up they dog or run away
its better this way as if you keep raising the bar
"more violent criminals " somebody will always find a way to jump it.................it keeps society cleaner ...we dont throw everyone in jail over everything we give them a fair go...........the Australian way.............lazy
 
Lots of poverty and lack of work in mexico + poor education mostly. They're right next to the united states too :) high pop density and doing crime as a job is culturally accepted in a lot of areas. Sameria hit the nail on the head pretty much...

So much more money involved in mexico...the cash/drug seizures are insane. Even when you're looking at population density and comparing it to Australia, it's just a whole different kind of crazy.
 
NightLight* said:
If thats what you think, cool...
I believe they do us alot more favours then what we reliese..
All entitled to our own opinion now..:\.
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If by 'favours' you mean helping supply our country with overpriced and often shit quality drugs then I am inclined to agree, however this is hardly a "favour" considering how much they are getting out of it and how dismal the black market for drugs really is. Not to mention that if they were out of the picture, their place would be taken in a second, so it isn't as though we need them to supply drugs.

It is pretty futile to debate which countries bikies or criminals in general are better or badder, I for one am fairly glad to live in a country where shootings aren't the norm.
 
NightLight* said:
If thats what you think, cool...
I believe they do us alot more favours then what we reliese..
All entitled to our own opinion now..:\.
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Don't get me wrong I apreciate all the work they do to get drugs on the streets but I think you will find that they are responsible for a small percentage of the drugs floating around. Don't forget about all the other shit crime these wankers are involved in ie: armed robbery, theft, guns etc etc, and all the violence these guys do.
 
my innerself said:
bikies without bikes??? and whats with the "original gangster" on their motif?? fucken USA wannabe rapper gangster shitheads!
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lol when i think of gangster i don't think of american rappers i think of O.G's like Al capone and bugsy siegel and people like that. i think that would be kind of more the direction they were heading in.
 
ace99 said:
they defineately dont make anywhere near the amounts thats australia's bikie's do

U do realise that mexican street gangs in la have direct contacts to mexican cartels?????

Do u honestly think that the rebels or bandits move more gear that 18thst or ms13.These guys r getting a kilo of coke "cheaply" from the mexican cartles.And what r u talking about teenagers in gangs yeah there are teenegers in gangs but the shot callers r all older guys and most of the members r guys in their 20s and 30s.Look this bikie war the media is talking about is a bunch of bullshit how many people have died??The DT even reported on a 19yr old bra boy fighting with a 15yr old como is that wat u call a war a buch of kids having a fist fight LOL
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Back off topic for abit...

talking about connections with mexican cartels, i believe i read before that crips were mentioned and MS13. from my knowledge when i lived in LA first being in young teens and when i was 19-20, and from family in southern cali and new mexico, is that crips are african american street gangs and ms 13 being el salvadorian based who actually are warring with mexican gangs, cant see them working with cartels. i may be wrong but, you could be right but i doubt it.
 
OND43X said:
Back off topic for abit...

talking about connections with mexican cartels, i believe i read before that crips were mentioned and MS13. from my knowledge when i lived in LA first being in young teens and when i was 19-20, and from family in southern cali and new mexico, is that crips are african american street gangs and ms 13 being el salvadorian based who actually are warring with mexican gangs, cant see them working with cartels. i may be wrong but, you could be right but i doubt it.
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The MS13 are working with the cartels. I watch alot of documentaries on them called Gangland seen em all actually. The MS13 have strong ties and buy directly from the Juarez cartels. They are also are involved in murder, extortion, guns, money laundering, robbing other dealers and stash houses and also getting them and citizens to pay street taxes etc etc etc but they mainly are involved with importing drugs straight across the boarder as they are a mexican based gang that formed in Mexico. I wouldnt classify cartels as being gangs. The gangs work for the cartels. Cartels get protection and enforcement and gangs get drugs.
 
OND43X said:
Back off topic for abit...

talking about connections with mexican cartels, i believe i read before that crips were mentioned and MS13. from my knowledge when i lived in LA first being in young teens and when i was 19-20, and from family in southern cali and new mexico, is that crips are african american street gangs and ms 13 being el salvadorian based who actually are warring with mexican gangs, cant see them working with cartels. i may be wrong but, you could be right but i doubt it.
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Yeah your right the mexicans and the blacks r at war.The blacks r no longer the dominant race when it comes to LA like they were in the 80s even in areas that r mentioned in rap songs like compton and inglewood have been takinover by the mexis.But in every gang their is the one guy who has the contacts to get the gear so since all drug trafic in california comes from mexico im guessing they have to get it from a mexican
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-beach-dominance/story-e6freuzi-1225978229575

LOL those rich yuppies from the eastern suburbs r used to getting quality gear from other yuppies i dont think they will be buying shit quality from lebo bikies so i think its a waste of time trying to expand to the eastern suburbs

And looks like the angels and commos r on good terms now even though the commos humiliated the angels and the angels did nothing.Im guessing sonny barger is pissed that the oz HA r soft
 
ace99 said:
Yeah your right the mexicans and the blacks r at war.The blacks r no longer the dominant race when it comes to LA like they were in the 80s even in areas that r mentioned in rap songs like compton and inglewood have been takinover by the mexis.But in every gang their is the one guy who has the contacts to get the gear so since all drug trafic in california comes from mexico im guessing they have to get it from a mexican
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I wouldnt say that mexicans and blacks are in war with each other. There are a number of white, hispanic and asians who are members of the bloods and crips despite the fact that they are an african american formed gang. In prisons there is racial tension and gang members are separated according to there race.
 
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