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The Bikie Wars

LOL those rich yuppies from the eastern suburbs r used to getting quality gear from other yuppies i dont think they will be buying shit quality from lebo bikies so i think its a waste of time trying to expand to the eastern suburbs

And looks like the angels and commos r on good terms now even though the commos humiliated the angels and the angels did nothing.Im guessing sonny barger is pissed that the oz HA r soft
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http://www.therealunderbelly.com/2011/01/10/sam-ibrahim-target-dry-run-drive/


I have herd rumors that Notorious provide muscle for the Ibrahim family headed by John Ibrahim and that the Ibrahim's with Notorious muscle control most of the drug distribution in Kings Cross. The Comanchero have also been suspected by cops in some attacks on the Ibrahim brothers from the Fadi shooting to the recent drive by on his sisters house. Could the Ibrahim's be supplying dealers (yuppie and otherwise) in the eastern suburbs and Notorious are trying to drive away the Comanchero from standing over them? Or could it be the other way round with the Comanchero trying to drive away Notorious so they don't stand over the eastern suburbs dealers they supply? What do you guys think of this theory?
 
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^ link above was 404'd so i googled for new one

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/ibrahims-under-constant-attack/story-e6frezz0-1225965694247

sounds like it's going to get wild.

"The gang has clashed with rivals with police recently receiving street-level intelligence that a quantity of the drug "ice" had been "stolen" by some members of Notorious from a Comanchero house in western Sydney.

According to one investigator, a meeting was arranged to resolve the issue, without success.

"The Comanchero offered to buy back the drugs," the source said. The offer was rejected."

lol fk that get ripped off then try buy it back off them and get rejected
 
Nonstop said:
I've never seen any bikies in Australia like I did on my last holiday to NZ. The gangs I saw over there made there presence felt & really looked like guys you don't want to fuck with. Not saying the Aus chapters aren't bad mofo's its just you don't really see them in full force in nearly every town like I saw over there. From what I was told the NZ guys have it down pat & pretty much control everything in NZ.

I dred the day the bikies take control of the drug trade. Its not like you can strong arm/intimidate or ask for a refund off these guys.
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Their in full swing atm. Them and the asian. All thats quality now is ice. MDMA has been hit hard by the bikies the badbuzz they are.
 
My understanding of the whole scene on how the bikies came to be is this/
Back in the 2000-2004 the Morans were in control of the ecstasy production in Melbourne and with corrupt officers, a large support base- quality was being produced- imported or locally made.
When Carl Williams took over he started making shit and from 04-06 only imports coming in were quality. He repressed as much as he could but there was a lot of quality still coming in. He didn dentthe scene that much.
When Williams got done it simultaniously coincided with imports and quality drying up aswell and i dont know if anyone remembers but 2007 was a shocking year for MDMA pills a bit like june 2009 till now. A pretty shocking and lean period.
When Rocky got himself set up in 07 he started bringing quality back such as the White Hearts and the White Mercs.
He got busted by the cops and is being heavily watched. As far as i know he was the last person to be bringing quality imports in.
Now in the time since the Asians and the Bikies from Sydney who are Lebanese have repressed made some of the worst pills in history. DXM PMA 2cb the list goes on.
All thats improved is ICE and its because theyre all on it.
If imports come in they are cut down repressed into shit.
Theres been 2 years of munters out there yet to experience quality and its all because of these 2 groups.
The police IMO will pounce soon but FFS these people are making a profit off duds. I cant wait till they get done. Who knows how much longer the wait will be to let the rap sheet build up but i hope its soon.
A lean year like 07 happened but it recovered.
So far Australia has suffered for 18 months will no quality. Heres hoping times will change.
 
DaxDeAngelo said:
http://www.therealunderbelly.com/2011/01/10/sam-ibrahim-target-dry-run-drive/


I have herd rumors that Notorious provide muscle for the Ibrahim family headed by John Ibrahim and that the Ibrahim's with Notorious muscle control most of the drug distribution in Kings Cross. The Comanchero have also been suspected by cops in some attacks on the Ibrahim brothers from the Fadi shooting to the recent drive by on his sisters house. Could the Ibrahim's be supplying dealers (yuppie and otherwise) in the eastern suburbs and Notorious are trying to drive away the Comanchero from standing over them? Or could it be the other way round with the Comanchero trying to drive away Notorious so they don't stand over the eastern suburbs dealers they supply? What do you guys think of this theory?
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Sorry I messed up the link in the post above. Here it is again

http://www.therealunderbelly.com/2011/01/10/sam-ibrahim-target-dry-run-drive/
 
xtc123 said:
^ link above was 404'd so i googled for new one

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/ibrahims-under-constant-attack/story-e6frezz0-1225965694247

sounds like it's going to get wild.

"The gang has clashed with rivals with police recently receiving street-level intelligence that a quantity of the drug "ice" had been "stolen" by some members of Notorious from a Comanchero house in western Sydney.

According to one investigator, a meeting was arranged to resolve the issue, without success.

"The Comanchero offered to buy back the drugs," the source said. The offer was rejected."

lol fk that get ripped off then try buy it back off them and get rejected
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I read about that as well. I also read that even earlier last year the shoe was on the other foot when Comanchero stole 70kg's of heroin from Notorious by kidnapping one of their dealers and torturing him until he told them where the stash was. They kidnaped him by pretending to be police and pulling him over with fake police lights.

http://www.therealunderbelly.com/2010/09/16/comanchero-mc-attack-takes-25million-from-notorious-mc/
 
purplehaze1 said:
My understanding of the whole scene on how the bikies came to be is this/
Back in the 2000-2004 the Morans were in control of the ecstasy production in Melbourne and with corrupt officers, a large support base- quality was being produced- imported or locally made.
When Carl Williams took over he started making shit and from 04-06 only imports coming in were quality. He repressed as much as he could but there was a lot of quality still coming in. He didn dentthe scene that much.
When Williams got done it simultaniously coincided with imports and quality drying up aswell and i dont know if anyone remembers but 2007 was a shocking year for MDMA pills a bit like june 2009 till now. A pretty shocking and lean period.
When Rocky got himself set up in 07 he started bringing quality back such as the White Hearts and the White Mercs.
He got busted by the cops and is being heavily watched. As far as i know he was the last person to be bringing quality imports in.
Now in the time since the Asians and the Bikies from Sydney who are Lebanese have repressed made some of the worst pills in history. DXM PMA 2cb the list goes on.
All thats improved is ICE and its because theyre all on it.
If imports come in they are cut down repressed into shit.
Theres been 2 years of munters out there yet to experience quality and its all because of these 2 groups.
The police IMO will pounce soon but FFS these people are making a profit off duds. I cant wait till they get done. Who knows how much longer the wait will be to let the rap sheet build up but i hope its soon.
A lean year like 07 happened but it recovered.
So far Australia has suffered for 18 months will no quality. Heres hoping times will change.
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Bikies? Doubt any of them have there hands in much importation regarding MDMA and similar things. Since the Italian mafia went down the supply has dried up, am i not correct? From what i gather the government won the war on that one but there has been sum imports that have made it thru but neither u or I know who has there hands in it as they are pretty much silent.and keep to themselves and dont attract much attention.
 
Sustanon said:
Bikies? Doubt any of them have there hands in much importation regarding MDMA and similar things. Since the Italian mafia went down the supply has dried up, am i not correct? From what i gather the government won the war on that one but there has been sum imports that have made it thru but neither u or I know who has there hands in it as they are pretty much silent.and keep to themselves and dont attract much attention.
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+1

I think the little MDMA that is appearing in Australia is produced locally and in small amounts
 
Sustanon said:
Bikies? Doubt any of them have there hands in much importation regarding MDMA and similar things. Since the Italian mafia went down the supply has dried up, am i not correct? From what i gather the government won the war on that one but there has been sum imports that have made it thru but neither u or I know who has there hands in it as they are pretty much silent.and keep to themselves and dont attract much attention.
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That would be the case. The bikies aren't importing MDMA nor are they producing it. When the Italian mafia went down in 2008 they were the last organization to produce local or import genuine ecstasy. Rocky the head was the only figure to escape prosecution yet he was in charge. He's being watched and is finished as a major player in the scene. Now the bikies who have an appetite for crystal meth are in charge. They're not bringing in any imports at all. If they are their being repressed down dramatically. All the shit being cut into the pills is their cause. Turning a profit with quantity rather than quality is the motive and as long as each pill virgin comes along and gets conned its not gonna improve soon. The Asians don't care either and ask anyone the last time there was steady MDMA around and response is 2 years. Organized crime needs to get organized and it starts by getting rid of the current trash.
The only people bringing in MDMA at the moment are obviously those up in high places or who can have the luxury of taking the risk. I believe in cycles. A market as potent as MDMA can't stay dead for much longer.
 
xtc123 said:
i was just assuming most of this molly coming in was imported, duno y
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No way to know for sure really...but I assume the same, due to the factory-like quality and quantity of it around.

I really hope good MDMA pills increase in circulation in the near future...heard safrole is not as abundant as it was and we might be missing out because of that.

Speaking theoretically, if someone had access to lots of MDMA they'd be smart to spend time trying to find a hard to copy press...like heart shapes, or even better something more complex. Everything can be copied but maybe it'd give time to corner the market with high quality MDMA tablets....they could even sell them for an inflated price and easily get away with it after word had spread, the kids who've been in the pill scene the last few years might have their first MDMA experience and maybe then they wouldn't buy pipes. They could also buy a heap of test kits and give them away at various events.

Getting dealers in on harm reduction would reach the most amount of people...of course that's almost impossible because of the money thing/greed and since it's illegal.

I don't know any bikies but have a couple friends with family involved with them. 2000-2005 or so they had mostly very good quality MDMA pills. It slowly started to get worse and now they have had nothing but pipes and speed bombs for years now....they don't really know what 'mdma' is. Not sure how typical this is of the average bikie.
 
What really fuks me over is that all this goes on and I'm worried about riding down to the beach on my pushy without a helmet 'cause there are cycle cops frothing a the bit to bust a criminal offender like me. Fukn hahahaha. Shit : (
Hari Om
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the ibrahims arnt as feared as they once were this wouldnt of happend 10 years ago.Even when the brother got shot they didnt take revenge
 
Well they tried but they stuffed it up real good with Fadi and co out on bail for conspiracy to murder
 
More details on the shooting including a message from sam to his attackers http://www.therealunderbelly.com/2011/01/15/down-sam-ibrahim-tells-be-murderers-bad-luck/

ace99 said:
the ibrahims arnt as feared as they once were this wouldnt of happend 10 years ago.Even when the brother got shot they didnt take revenge
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What has happened in the last 10 years? Have the Ibrahim's gotten weaker or have the como's gotten way stronger? And how? With all the heat on them and arrests they got from the airport brawl I would have a logical reason to assume them weaker but they don't appear that way.

Meanwhile the Ibrahim's have Notorious and their army of Lebanese thugs for protection/muscle. They own/manage a heap of clubs in the Cross where they can distribute drugs and make a fortune (They all live in mansions and drive bentleys, mercs and lambo's). Shouldn't they have a bigger war chest and recruiting power then the Comanchero?


Do you guys think they will be able to get John Ibrahim?
 
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