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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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so now im down to 0.2mg of bupe every second day about to jump off and my sex drive is crazy, need to wank like 4x a day and its driving me mad, I used to go days at a time without caring.

even decent sex doesn't fill the urge, anyone got any advice for this? I cbf trying to pick up constantly, I have more productive things to do.
 
^ sit on the opposite hand that you would usually whack it with until it goes numb, once numb.. then drop the pants and use your odd numb hand and experience "the stranger" lol..
seriously tho, w/d whacks are the shittiest thing to ever have.. i was on this bus once and.. lol im kidding.
go beat it like it owes you money.
 
lol i'm actually happy to have my sex drive back when I'm in WDs. It's like the only positive thing happening at the time. At least beatin it gets your mind off all the pain your in for a little bit. Lol "the stranger" also known as "the phantom spank"
 
I'm interested in these drugs, because you rarely hear about people abusing Oxy's even though they're supposedly available in the UK?

I also hear from an Internet friend in Florida, that OC has turned into OP. Which she said is real bad for her. I dunno why tho, something to do with time release.

Yeah, OC is pretty big in the USA, that's probably why you don't actually see it yourself much. It is definitely not rarely abused though! It's probably the most popular pharmeceutical opiate in the USA, with hydrocodone being the other main one. And yes, OP is a new formulation of abuse-proof time release for OC.

When i stop taking the kratom, do i need to taper it? I won't become dependent and extend/prolong/re-withdraw from the kratom after 3 or so weeks of dosing every day will i?

You shouldn't have to taper it. I'd recommend that when you stop, you first cut down the number of doses in a day, then once you're at one per day, start skipping days between doses. After this you can just quit and I'm sure you'll be relatively ok.

lol i'm actually happy to have my sex drive back when I'm in WDs. It's like the only positive thing happening at the time. At least beatin it gets your mind off all the pain your in for a little bit.

Yeah, losing my sex drive is definitely a negative thing attributed to opiates, and while it is still mainly functioning on bupe, getting it back in full swing is something I really cherish. The sex/ masturbation you are having now is abnormally good, try to think if it that way!
 
You shouldn't have to taper it. I'd recommend that when you stop, you first cut down the number of doses in a day, then once you're at one per day, start skipping days between doses. After this you can just quit and I'm sure you'll be relatively ok.

Thanks that's what i thought.
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Do you think 5 ounces will be enough for 3 weeks? I'm guessing it will only make it nearly that long if i taper/conserve the doses, even then it probably wont be enough. Its Bali kratom, though i know regardless of strain it can still depend on the dose.
 
^By your desciption of what you're getting, you use the same vendor I do, and I use the bali too, so just for the record I know what you're working with...

Five ounces is a decent amount; I wouldn't think it would last more than 10 days or so at 7-8 grams and 2-3x daily dosing, though. Dosing twice daily will probably leave you withdrawing a little portion of every day, probably right in the morning, but if you just have your dose prepared to basically roll out of bed and take, you should be fine (you'll probably wake up feeling pretty rough though, just a warning)... I'm not recalling how low you got your dose before jumping off, but as long as it is reasonably low, this amount of kratom should be as strong or stronger than the dose of bupe that you were taking. It is just short lasting and this is going to be the biggest problem you'll face, and if you are jumping from a higher dose, you may wind up needing to take 3 doses a day for awhile.

Since you're trying to be as conservative as possible, I'd definitely go for 2x daily dosing first, and probably at around 6-7 grams orally (I prefer in 000 capsules). The potency of kratom varies by batch, and the exact dose required fluctuates with it. I've never had a batch that 7 grams was too much, though, and that's usually just about right. Also, the alkaloids present in kratom vary from one batch to the next, so the effects will be slightly different. Some strains are noddy, some are more stimulating, some are just mild... All are pretty good but the differences are definitely noticeable. Note that I said some are mild, and yes, I mean that they are less desirable. These strains are still good, especially if helping with withdrawal, but are less likely to give the strong opiate effects that are possible with better strains, such as nods.

One last bit of advice, this goes back to having a dose ready to take when you wake up in the morning-- Even if you are dosing 3x daily, you will still wake up probably not feeling too great, though if you only dosed twice than you would be worse... Having that dose ready is going to be helpful because waking up to withdrawal sucks, especially if it is withdrawal waking you up earlier than you'd like, as was the case with me. If you are woken up early or can otherwise relax for like 45 minutes or so after waking up, I recommend you take the kratom and then relax for around 30 min - 1 hour. You take that first dose then and the effects will start to kick in pretty fast, with the first waves of the kratom's effects felt within minutes. For me, I can just lay there and close my eyes and relax, and the kratom kicking in over withdrawal while I'm laying with my eyes closed is one of the greatest drug-induced feelings that I've experienced. The change from waking up in pain to relaxing and nodding on opiates while comfortable in my bed is just remarkable. Kratom seems to do this better than any of the poppy-derived drugs in my opinion. The effects of kratom are also definitely enhanced by taking it in this way.

From these experiences, I eventually started getting kratom ready to be taken in as soon as I wake up even when I'm not in withdrawal, and the effects are still wonderful. Kratom and sleeping in are just a wonderful combination all around!

I hope this helps you, feel free to ask any questions! I took a little bupe just now and I'm typing like a maniac! ;)
 
Thanks for the info. I take .5mgs daily right now, do you think that's low enough for 6-7 grams of kratom per dose to be effective? I'm definitely planning on dosing twice a day, I will have 90x 600mg gabapentin pills which help a fair amount with withdrawal, as well as on okay amount of clonidine for sleep/rls. On top of vitamins, exercise, and a healthy diet I'm hoping i wont have to much actual suffering. I wish i had some diazepam or clonazepam but I'll survive without it, I can't get a scrip nor anything off the street in my current situation. In addition to the extra bali i was sent a "sample" of borneo, i have no idea how much a sample means but have you ever had any experience with borneo kratom?

With any lucky it will arrive tomorrow or Tuesday, Illinois-weather permitting. I can't believe I'm finally doing this. Lets hope i don't go down this road again haha.

Also, un related but I'm hoping nothing went wrong with the payment. I was sent a confirmation email once my item was shipped, and i have a paypal receipt, but the money hasn't been taken out of my bank account yet. Does paypal just take a few days to extract the money from my bank? I guess the import thing is that my order was shipped regardless haha. Though this place had excellent service as well as an amazing deal for the money i paid, i wouldn't want them to not receive payment.
 
Thoughts on jumping off 0.2mg a day, I'm going to get it down to 0.2mg every second day then jump, how uncomfortable will I be?
 
^(@case) Yeah, 0.5mg is not bad, though slightly lower would be ideal. You'll get a mild pleasant buzz from the kratom, I'm sure...

^(@rolls) That is a decent level to jump from no matter your intentions. If you can get kratom it would still be handy, but you're at a pretty low amount and after you get to every other day, w/d shouldn't be too horrible. I'd expect something like mild to moderate flu symptoms.
 
Thoughts on jumping off 0.2mg a day, I'm going to get it down to 0.2mg every second day then jump, how uncomfortable will I be?

I'm still using buprenorphine so I don't know. Good luck though!

Whatever "uncomfortable" sensations you might have should be able to be mediated by other stuff, like antihistamines, eating, exercise, drinking enough water, vitamins, hot showers/baths, and possibly stuff like BP meds, or benzos (if you are very careful with them).
 
Thoughts on jumping off 0.2mg a day, I'm going to get it down to 0.2mg every second day then jump, how uncomfortable will I be?

i personally dont think you will be uncomfortable at all. I have jumped off while taking slightly higher doses then that every day, and I didnt even have one single problem.
Of course, every person is different. But I still believe that you will have no trouble jumping off at that dose.
 
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I had a vicious cold these past few days, and realized that my sniffed dose wasn't as efficient due to my nose congestion, so took it SL for the 1st few days, but then switched back to sniffing. I believe that yesterday's dose was partially "lost" in my nose, for lack of a better word, as i woke up to some mild wd's. I'm also thinking to make this Subutex prx my last. I only heard about Kratom from on here, and will give it a try. After all, i think i need it physically AND mentally. I used all recreational drugs for over 5 years, a lot of Rohypnol and Codeine, then married H for 10 long mo. fo. years. So, i have lived all of my adult life high some way or another, and i need it to stop, for the sake of my life, my future, my fiancee.
As much as i love the Subutex and the stability it gave me, especially those last 3 months, as i have never stayed clean for that long, as much as i still know it's an opiate and i'm daily depending on it. So, Soberville is my new destination. And by sober, i mean opiates free, as i smoke a lot weed. a daily habit for the past 15 years, and i also enjoy wine with diner... so i still have my minor escape, i'm growing older and that's my new challenge these days.
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@Caseface: Good luck man, hopefully doing like you soon. And btw, i'm sorry but i did think you were a girl too :) But! i had my reasons, insane personal ones that i'll share with you...well, your nick and CatCalls are somehow similar in my head, and since i found you both regularly on here, i foolishly deducted this conclusion. I could just keep my mouth shut, but just thought about the "ha-ha" part of it, sorry again :)
 
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My name is similar to catcalls, and since we are both regulars that must have meant i was a chick?

I don't see the logic there... haha.

Good luck with getting off suboxone though. How much do you take daily?

I hate when an order tracker says your package is out for delivery but it hasn't arrived yet. Mines been out for delivery in my town since 920am its 420 pm now.

On topic though, im so happy to be going through with this - been on suboxone for way to long. like 2 1/2 times as long as i was using heroin... With random amounts of withdrawal everyday for the last 8 months. Its so discouraging.
 
I just have a quik question about suboxin! I've been on 160-180 mg of liquid methadone every other day and the last dose I had was last thursday and I took some suboxin today iv 4mg how long before I will be able to feel my methadone again??? And if I do still take it in the mean time should I cut down my dose a lil bit?? For safety reasons? Thanks in advance
 
no time to read today........so random post.....

still working 40 hour weeks.......i was upset that i had to raise my dose from 1mg........so i dropped it again.......

1.5mg now........1mg sl, and 0.5mg IN
 
I just have a quik question about suboxin! I've been on 160-180 mg of liquid methadone every other day and the last dose I had was last thursday and I took some suboxin today iv 4mg how long before I will be able to feel my methadone again??? And if I do still take it in the mean time should I cut down my dose a lil bit?? For safety reasons? Thanks in advance

You should be able to feel the done again within 48 hours. I don't understand the second part of your question. If you still take what in the mean time, suboxone? Why would you do that, if you want to go back to done?

And i can't for the life of me remember, will suboxone block the effects of Kratom?
 
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And i can't for the life of me remember, will suboxone block the effects of Kratom?

Not entirely, but it certainly will disrupt it. I'm not sure if it is due to the strength of buprenorphine overpowering the effects of the kratom, but that is what it seems like.
 
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