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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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ConnectFor said:
Thanks for the report, and I will echo the sentiment...be careful peeps - I'm 6ft and 17st, no previous K experience and 35mg has me properly hammered. Powerful chem yo 8o
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Man - sounds quite fucking good ^^ could you detail your "hammerdness" a little bit?
 
ysrh said:
With regards to the lame product name that people are unhappy with (and rightly so!) - the sponsored link at the top of Google results that was showing up has since been removed. Good work to those who voiced their unhappiness.

:)
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Those vendors must monitor bluelight, and this thread in particular, like hawks. It was only a little earlier that the nickname in question was brought up as an issue. Guess they don't want to upset their customers.
 
nanoshot said:
This is interesting. So, from one ket head to another, what would you suggest as a good blast off first dose in a needle in the muscle. My start off shot of K, to get things going and get into the hole for a bit is between 150mg~180mg. Then I cruise in and out of planetary travel with shots of K at 70mg at a time. Would you think that 100mg of Mxe shot in my muscle would be a comprable dose to my blast off K dose? Of course I wouldn't be re-dosing like I do with K, given the reports of how long this stuff lasts.
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Can you not just start low and work your way up?

I personally think you're mad to start with 100mg IM. Who knows what your own idiosyncratic reaction will be? Start at 40mg IM max and if it's not enough stick another 40mg in. And do an allergy test first.

Methoxetamine is not Ketamine.

It might be that ketheads generally need higher doses but we don't actually know that yet, this is an RC, so it would be sensible to approach it as such.
 
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nanoshot said:
This is interesting. So, from one ket head to another, what would you suggest as a good blast off first dose in a needle in the muscle. My start off shot of K, to get things going and get into the hole for a bit is between 150mg~180mg. Then I cruise in and out of planetary travel with shots of K at 70mg at a time. Would you think that 100mg of Mxe shot in my muscle would be a comprable dose to my blast off K dose? Of course I wouldn't be re-dosing like I do with K, given the reports of how long this stuff lasts.
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As I'm sure you know K can vary wildly in strength/quality. I would say consider really good strong shardy K and its probably about 1.5-2 times the strength of that, although i'm trying to veer on the side of caution here.

I'm not one for needles myself so i can only go by my nasal experiences.
 
Actually, i agree with knockando. Better to play it safe to start with, try a smaller amount and give it twice as long as you would give K before deciding whether to redose. The effects dont really last that much longer than K, but the after effects linger on for a while.
 
knockando said:
Can you not just start low and work your way up?

I personally think you're mad to start with 100mg IM. Who knows what your own idiosyncratic reaction will be? Start at 40mg IM max and if it's not enough stick another 40mg in. And do an allergy test first.

Methoxetamine is not Ketamine.

It might be that ketheads generally need higher doses but we don't actually know that yet, this is an RC, so it would be sensible to approach it as such.
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I hear ya. I was originally going to start with 50mg IM to test the waters. I will just do that and adjust from there. One interesting thing for me is that I have been on Wellbutrin for 5.5 yrs straight and it definitly has re-wired my dopamine as far as how opiates have an effect on me. I can take a 30mg roxy and just feel a little peak and thats about it, and I don't take pain pills at all, so I'm wondering if I will even feel the opiate effect of Mxe like everyone talks of.
 
My biggest worry about the comparison with Ketamine is that with Methoxetamine there doesn't seem to be any physical paralysis as such - I haven't experienced this with Ketamine as I've only done a small amount a few times but I believe this is part of the high-dose experience, i.e. you have no choice but to lie down or whatever.

I don't get this with Methoxetamine, it seems entirely possible to be in a completely befuddled state and rampage around the house or maybe outside making a fool or worse a statistic of yourself!

Take care!
 
nanoshot said:
I have read post after post about this drug and could not find anyones real experiences using IM as the method. Hasn't anyone mixed this up with bacteriostatic water, filtered it and injected it IM? I like ketamine. I like 100mg IM doses at a time while listening to vocal trance music, pretty girls voices with lots of subtle echoes and repetition, while having my eyes shut enjoying the CEV's and taking a "ride" to the music. I have read everyone here plays around with 10mg here up the nose and there. I'm interested in getting down to business. I want to IM 50mg to see what it's all about, and then from what I've read about how much more potential Methoxetamine has, I plan to unlock it with a 100mg IM dose about an hour after my first 50mg IM dose. What do you think? Has anyone gone this way yet? It would be awesome to take a 4+hr solid "ride" with my eyes shut listening to my vocal trance music as it takes me on a journey. Is this possible with this drug like it is with K and do you think i will attain it with my dosings?
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yes i have im'd 250mg over a day, and in the end you get fucked up proper, its safe to do 50mg im in one shot, or if you got tolerance go for 100mg.. no more in one go though else you may go a bit manic and lose it - from experience lol - do not re-dose like ket.. WAIT at least a couple hours in between shots.
i get no visuals of it.. but neither do i get visuals of any amount of ket.. i just pass out wake up 10 mins later thinking i died "again"
Mxe is fun anti depressant type drug with little lingering side effects and is good imo.
 
KETAMAX said:
i get no visuals of it.. but neither do i get visuals of any amount of ket.. i just pass out wake up 10 mins later thinking i died "again"
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Perhaps you take too much! Seriously! I get CEVs off ~50mg methoxetamine, it's not a huge dose and I have to lie down and close my eyes to experience it.

It sounds like you're giving yourself a general anaesthetic... Try lower doses!
 
The "after effects" can be completely overwhelming if the dose you took was big enough. I spent 4-5 hrs waiting to get rid of this parallell reality consisting of dark fluorescent.. i dont know what.. trees? This reality was equally "strong" or "stronger" than reality. The "dissociative feedback" came back growing in strength and knocked me out periodically. Actually scary even for someone who thinks k-holes is the only meaning with ketamine and smoked DMT hundreds of times.


This substance is completely amazing, but its not a toy at all. I've said it before and i say it again : this drug is going to make a lot of noise..



phatboy303 said:
Actually, i agree with knockando. Better to play it safe to start with, try a smaller amount and give it twice as long as you would give K before deciding whether to redose. The effects dont really last that much longer than K, but the after effects linger on for a while.
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knockando said:
Can you not just start low and work your way up?

I personally think you're mad to start with 100mg IM. Who knows what your own idiosyncratic reaction will be? Start at 40mg IM max and if it's not enough stick another 40mg in. And do an allergy test first.

Methoxetamine is not Ketamine.

It might be that ketheads generally need higher doses but we don't actually know that yet, this is an RC, so it would be sensible to approach it as such.
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This is good sound advice here! :) Wise to heed wise words! Methoxetamine is indeed not ketamine. As many ket heads are finding out, it doesn't take you to the same place as ketamine. The 2-chloro group on ketamine seems essential to its anaesthesia, and adding the 3-MeO to ANY arylcylohexylamine really changes its activity. . .Slight opiate effects (the 3 or 4 HO group instead really hammers the mu receptors) but also a vastly different character it seems. Ketamine seems to have one of the highest NMDA antagonism to DRI ratios, so if you have already climbed the ketamine ladder its pretty damn hard to find that elsewhere. Not many other places to go (yet!) PCP and family get pretty wild, but also have the higher DRI action, resulting in more mania, etc. There hasnt been binding studies with methoxetamine yet, as it is a brand new invention (thank you wizard sirs;)) , but one can extrapolate its action with a little SAR thought and some concentrated in vitro studies;)

You just wont get to that interplanetary cosmic quantum travel place with methoxetamine without the possibility of unhinged and possibly uncomfortable craziness, as KETAMAX and phatboy303 are finding out. But its got its own sweetness....it is its own character.<3

Pretty awesome to see all these reports trickling (pouring?) in on a such a new blessed substance. Treat it with respect and it will do the same to you.<3
 
Hi Amanitadine, thanks for chiming in, it does worry me to see people treating a novel compound as if it is exactly the same as what they are used to! From my limited experience and reading about ketamine I think the two substances, although sharing some characteristics, are in many ways quite different. I think there is quite a lot of scope for mania with Methoxetamine, having behaved quite manically myself at fairly "low" doses.
 
this can be so useful for british students right now
waging a war against the tyrants, almost left on their own
while the rest of the country watch
envious
how
even wheelchairs
have guts
 
knockando said:
Hi Amanitadine, thanks for chiming in, it does worry me to see people treating a novel compound as if it is exactly the same as what they are used to! From my limited experience and reading about ketamine I think the two substances, although sharing some characteristics, are in many ways quite different. I think there is quite a lot of scope for mania with Methoxetamine, having behaved quite manically myself at fairly "low" doses.
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And hello to you good sir! Yeah, there is gonna be a bit of a learning curve with methoxetamine, but luckily it appears to be much more forgiving than some of its cousins. But, due caution is urged, and at least most have been quite cautious and respectful. You in particular have been a good voice of reason throughout this thread:)
 
amanitadine said:
And hello to you good sir! Yeah, there is gonna be a bit of a learning curve with methoxetamine, but luckily it appears to be much more forgiving than some of its cousins. But, due caution is urged, and at least most have been quite cautious and respectful. You in particular have been a good voice of reason throughout this thread:)
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I'm betting that most so far have been cautious and respectful because they found out about MXE through bluelight, and therefore have lapped up a great deal of knowledge and wisdom.

However it's only a matter of time before news of MXE spreads to the demographics that do not know of bluelight, errowid or any of the sources that are essential in learning how to use this drug....and then things will get cringe worthy...
 
Any pupil dillation with this substance? How well would a low dose work for a gig setting or is this not suitable?

Cheers
 
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