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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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I have 100mg of this, never taken it before as the last lot I ordered never arrived.
I had planned on taking between 40-50 mg in a drink or plugging it if anyone has tried that?

I am interested if the people that tried the first batch think this latest batch is weaker or stronger?

Only had Ket once, sold to me in a club as E about 15 years ago, quite a funny evening I had.
 
Took 50mg yesterday along with 50mg aMT. Talk about a fucking trip. I know it was probably more the aMT than the methoxetamine, but there was definitely a massive synergy between the two.

I've taken aMT before at similar doses and never had an experience anything like this. I was literally having an inner conflict between the left side of my brain and the right (creative vs. literal). I couldn't think about anything except abstractions, imagery synonyms. Resolved a lot of stuff in my head and realised I need to let my creative side get out a lot more than I currently do :P
 
Well, I survived. It was obviously quite ketty - altered (lowered) sensation, skin felt "sandy", mood lift and general spaced-out-ness, but I don't think I took enough.

Have just taken 70mg and will report back.

Mrs Deckmunki is about to try 40mg which, in her delicate frame, might well put her on her bum.

We're about to attempt to watch The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Will see how far we get; I don't expect to be able to process thoughts from around 1hr in...

;o)
 
A great time today with 23 milligrams.

I took 11 milligrams, sublingual (though I'm still not sure this or snorting is the best method), at 12:00 this morning. Then another 13 milligrams at 16:00.
At 12:30 am I had a kratom tea (one teaspoon Thai dry leave). at 13:30 I vaporised a pinch of the synthetic cannabinoid am-694. At 20:00 I had another kratom tea and at 20:30 (about two hours ago) had another pinch of am-694 (vaporised in a glass pipe)

I had breakfast and lunch in between, too ;)

I have a broken wrist, so I can't go to work, and nothing to do. I spent the day in front of the computer chatting to friends, reading articles and watching music or listening to music.
I've joined all FaceBook drugs (mind you, most are about cannabis, but there are a few about methoxetamine and other entheogens as well), and I enjoy participating and exchanging links and opinions.
The ongoing news regarding the London students protests were very interesting to watch and comment, too.

I feel that methoxetamine gives me extra-inspiration to express myself, and I can see how I get more "likes" on my comments than usual. At this dose (10~12 milligram), gives me a psychedelic mind without being overwhelming; a psychedelic perspective of things, I feel, which makes my comments more amusing to other people, it seems.

All in all, a great synergy. If i had taken just the two pinches of am-694 or the two kratom teas in isolation, I doubt I would have felt an effect for longer than half a hour. The three of them together made for a great quite day of uninterrupted expression and interaction
 
I asked this earlier, but I think it got buried amongst the crap at the time, but early on with this chemical, a lot of people reported a very mild but pleasant and positive after glow feeling. Can others confirm this? Related to that seems to be a lack of any negative comedown. Again, can anyone elaborate?

Ta...
 
deckmunki said:
Well, I survived. It was obviously quite ketty - altered (lowered) sensation, skin felt "sandy", mood lift and general spaced-out-ness, but I don't think I took enough.

Have just taken 70mg and will report back.

Mrs Deckmunki is about to try 40mg which, in her delicate frame, might well put her on her bum.

We're about to attempt to watch The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Will see how far we get; I don't expect to be able to process thoughts from around 1hr in...

;o)
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Sounds good my friend :) Can you give more details of time frames etc? When you land of course!
 
nomy said:
I asked this earlier, but I think it got buried amongst the crap at the time, but early on with this chemical, a lot of people reported a very mild but pleasant and positive after glow feeling. Can others confirm this? Related to that seems to be a lack of any negative comedown. Again, can anyone elaborate?

Ta...
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I can confirm this. the only slightly annoying thing I noticed with this chemical, is that when I take more than 20 milligrams, I experience double vision or is difficult to focus my eyes for one or two hours more after the main effects
(main effects lasts about 3 hours for me)

the maximum I have taken at the same time, or within a 4 hour period, has been 40 milligrams (snorted), and it was then when I got more of that "double vision" coming down effect.

it is not too annoying, just mildly inconvenient (i have to cover my right eye with my hand to see more or less "properly" and be able to read or recognise faces on the screen) because, as you wrote, there are a "pleasant and positive after glow feeling" that last for hours. I feel very content and satisfied during that period, and therefore not concerned much about anything really. a bit like the after-taste you can have after a very good meal or any satisfying experience. a psychedelic after-taste that lingers for a few hours and make integration of the experience easier.
 
i have snorted 13 milligrams an hour and a half ago and I think the nasal route is better for me (and with better, i mean just slightly more intense, no qualitative difference that I can appreciate at all)

i don't enjoy taking any other drug nasally (i don't like stimulants (i tried them a few times in the past but that's it) and have never used ket).

it could be that i prefer to sniff it because that's the way i did it the first times and now i got used to. the difference of intensity compared to the oral route is not much, but i feel it a bit stronger this way.
its very hard to tell with this kind of drugs though, you know, because it depends on so many other factors too.

at the very least, I guess the difference between sub-lingual or nasal route can't be that big. I would rather prefer to consume orally or sub-lingually, because it seems less messy, but I'll keep doing it up the nose, as it seems to work better for me that way and it is not painful or itchy at all, just very slightly bitter.
 
Well, that was horrific.

I've just put Mrs Deckmunki to sleep in the recovery position after she had what appeared to be a bit of a psychotic break on methoxetamine. Very scary two hours of our lives.

The first warning signs started about 30 minutes after Mrs Deckmunki took 40mg methoxetamine orally. She became tensed, alert and started looking around.

It became quite quickly apparent that she was in a state of confusion/delerium, repeating actions and phrases, and becoming unaware of where she was.

Mrs Deckmunki spent the next hour or so in the vicinity of the loo and in a state of clear confusion, alternating between a state of coherent panic, coherence, abject panic ("I'm going to die, aren't I?") and vomiting.

I, by this point, had decided that Mrs Deckmunki was going straight should she survive, and Mr Deckmunki would be taking a long walk off a short pier; to say I'm disgusted at myself is a pretty serious understatement.

Thankfully, my bedside manner didn't induce a full psychotic break in Mrs Deckmunki and she had gradually calmed down; she's currently drifting off to sleep on the bed while I try to work out whether or not to flush the rest of this bag of methoxetamine.

I'm just not sure what to make of this one quite yet.

Be sensible on this please, folks.
 
40mg orally with this chemical is a low dose so I find this quite worrying.

I haven't had any of batch two yet so cannot comment - my order is due tomorrow morning.

Sorry that you had such a scary experience but I'm sure your missus will be fine after some sleep. Take it easy! <3
 
IME 45mg oral was far far stronger and quicker onset than 50mg insufflated. I dont know if thats just me, i guess everyones different.. hope your missus is ok anyway..
 
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deckmunki said:
Well, that was horrific.

I've just put Mrs Deckmunki to sleep in the recovery position after she had what appeared to be a bit of a psychotic break on methoxetamine. Very scary two hours of our lives.

The first warning signs started about 30 minutes after Mrs Deckmunki took 40mg methoxetamine orally. She became tensed, alert and started looking around.

It became quite quickly apparent that she was in a state of confusion/delerium, repeating actions and phrases, and becoming unaware of where she was.

Mrs Deckmunki spent the next hour or so in the vicinity of the loo and in a state of clear confusion, alternating between a state of coherent panic, coherence, abject panic ("I'm going to die, aren't I?") and vomiting.

I, by this point, had decided that Mrs Deckmunki was going straight should she survive, and Mr Deckmunki would be taking a long walk off a short pier; to say I'm disgusted at myself is a pretty serious understatement.

Thankfully, my bedside manner didn't induce a full psychotic break in Mrs Deckmunki and she had gradually calmed down; she's currently drifting off to sleep on the bed while I try to work out whether or not to flush the rest of this bag of methoxetamine.

I'm just not sure what to make of this one quite yet.

Be sensible on this please, folks.
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1) Are you fairly certain your product was Methoxetamine?

2) How accurate is your scale?

3) What's Mrs. D's mental healthy history like? Has she experimented with psychoactive substances before? If so, what were her reactions like?

4) Any chance she was sleep deprived or just emotionally tired?
 
deckmunki said:
Well, that was horrific.

I've just put Mrs Deckmunki to sleep in the recovery position after she had what appeared to be a bit of a psychotic break on methoxetamine. Very scary two hours of our lives.

The first warning signs started about 30 minutes after Mrs Deckmunki took 40mg methoxetamine orally. She became tensed, alert and started looking around.

It became quite quickly apparent that she was in a state of confusion/delerium, repeating actions and phrases, and becoming unaware of where she was.

Mrs Deckmunki spent the next hour or so in the vicinity of the loo and in a state of clear confusion, alternating between a state of coherent panic, coherence, abject panic ("I'm going to die, aren't I?") and vomiting.

I, by this point, had decided that Mrs Deckmunki was going straight should she survive, and Mr Deckmunki would be taking a long walk off a short pier; to say I'm disgusted at myself is a pretty serious understatement.

Thankfully, my bedside manner didn't induce a full psychotic break in Mrs Deckmunki and she had gradually calmed down; she's currently drifting off to sleep on the bed while I try to work out whether or not to flush the rest of this bag of methoxetamine.

I'm just not sure what to make of this one quite yet.

Be sensible on this please, folks.
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I hope Mrs Deckmunki recovers quickly - I'm sure she will. Sorry to hear about this bad experience. I wouldn't beat yourself up though, let Mrs Deckmunki do that.

I agree with naginnudej's questions, particularly 1 and 2. I have consumed around half a gram in total at various doses and never had an unpleasant reaction. I do have very accurate, properly calibrated, scales. I don't recognise the vomiting at all! It never has that effect on me, I never feel even slightly queasy.

If Mrs Deckmunki has, as you say, a delicate frame, 40mg is quite a dose. Methoxetamine is a powerful chemical and I think it makes sense to gradually increase the dose to experience the effects in your own body at different levels. It took me several weeks to work up to the 40-50mg level.

What kind of effects did it have on you at 70mg? If you were fine, other than the obvious, then it strongly highlights the possibility of individual responses varying wildly and the need for a cautious approach to exploring the drug.

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40mg orally with this chemical is a low dose so I find this quite worrying.
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I really don't agree, 10-25mg is the low dose range for me.
 
First post here, time to stop lurking in the shadows. 2x25mg lines with coffee, central heating and Christmas decorations has me in the most wonderful place.

This is one with serious potential.
 
Really good questions Knockando and naginnudej, and you've both pretty much read mine and Mrs Deckmunki's minds as we have been discussing this this morning across the duvet.

Firstly, I'm absolutely certain it's methoxetamine; it's from the main reputable seller on t'interwebs who sent out the original samples. They have always been trustworthy and reliable, and the substance which I have in my possession which is labelled methoxetamine has behaved in exactly that way for me when I tried it.

My scales are +-5mg accuracy on readout, no more than 12 months old, and calibrated against coin weights to +-0.5% last month, and there's no reason to think I would have managed to cock-up the dose as my 70mg went fine.

I've always had my doubts about Mrs D's mental history as she thinks I'm good looking, and in any case she's a woman, so there's little hope for her. That said, she's a squeaky-clean university student, and there's little if anything in her family history which might suggest a parental predisposition to craziness.

Mrs D has tried ketamine and laughing gas in a wide range of doses - the couple of times she's put herself into a bit of a hole, she's come out the other side giggling about being a crisp in a big bag of crisps, so she's not inexperienced in dissociatives.

Two complicating factors - possibly three are:

- We had both had around 1 unit of alcohol about 2 hours before taking methoxetamine. I took 70mg, she took 40mg. I experienced none of the symptoms and was clear-headed enough to look after her throughout, monitoring her signs, etc;

- She has had a cold and cough this week for which she has been taking a cough mixture which contains DXM (at OTC doses). Her last dose was more than 30 hours previously though, so any interaction would be surprising, albeit possible I imagine;

- She is also on the Implanon contraceptive implant, and one of the possible interactions listed in the implant's literature is with MAOIs, although that's apparently because MAOIs can reduce the implant's effectiveness, so it's a tenuous link at best.

Lastly, as I mentioned, I experienced no negative side effects to speak of last night, and no doubt would have quite enjoyed things if it wasn't for the sense of impending phail we were dealing with.

Obviously I'm glad everything seems normal now, but it's certainly a very intriguing turn of events.

... No plans to junk the methoxetamine just yet though.
 
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p.s. Knockando: if we're in the same situation again, we will definitely titrate up from a 1/10 or 1/20th normal dose; I think I was a bit blasé about methoxetamine because of it's structural similarity to ketamine; obviously my pre-GCSE-standard chemistry knowledge falls a little short of understanding that that similarity's no guarantee of anything at all ;o)
 
I received a sample of this last night and gave it a go. 25mg insufflated followed by 25mg sublingual about 30minutes in. Before I continue, I must say the few experiences of ketamine I've had, I didn't particularly enjoyed yet I was still curious to give it a try.

It took a good hour or so to feel the effects properly, starting off with some enjoyable, warm rushes through my limbs and a really relaxed state of mind. I then decided to put my headphones on and enjoy some music, by this point my mind was racing - I found myself just staring into space completely absorbed in thought. I started to find it very difficult to concentrate on what I was doing and got a sort of double vision effect, my legs had gone into a strange relaxed state - yet movement was quite floaty and enjoyable.

In all the experience lasted about 4 hours, I wouldn't say I particularly enjoyed it - I didn't like the confusion, inability to focus myself and almost 'drunk' sensation (despite being completely aware of everything I was doing). If you like dissociatives I'd say this is exactly what you're looking for, it's just not for me - I'll be sticking with phenethylamines and tryptamines in the future :)
 
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