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AusDD Ideas, Opinions, Direction
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
yes and those HR News stories should be in the forum dedicated to news articles, it only makes sense.
why should AusDD be one of the main exceptions in this and not have them moved their? essentially DiTM is losing quite possibly some warranted and valuable input which completely lacks in here.
and social threads don;t have any HR value which is why, imo again, they shouldn't exist in focus forums.
MrIbis
Bluelighter
i think this DiTM issue needs to be looked at less... Alot of us simply can't be arsed trawling bluelight for australian media.
i for one never read DiTM at all.. i just like having a read every other day when i go over AusDD and see something of interest to have a read. I can't see what harm this does - if we remove that, 90% of the threads will be greenlighters and idiots (why is the E gone threads).
I think the condolence threads need to cease though. I do not read this forum for depressing information. The news articles on deaths from drugs should stay - but i'm sure theres a place for rememberance threads elsewhere on this forum.
i for one never read DiTM at all.. i just like having a read every other day when i go over AusDD and see something of interest to have a read. I can't see what harm this does - if we remove that, 90% of the threads will be greenlighters and idiots (why is the E gone threads).
I think the condolence threads need to cease though. I do not read this forum for depressing information. The news articles on deaths from drugs should stay - but i'm sure theres a place for rememberance threads elsewhere on this forum.
MazDan
Bluelight Crew
If you want to take the "news items should be in the news items area" to its full extent as you guys suggest then in actual fact Aus DD would hardly exist. There should not be any mdma discussion in Aus DD other than pill IDs. No grass discussion because it should be in canabis discussion etc.
If your ideas were followed through with then Aus DD would be a shell a very empty shell.
The point is that AusDD has tried to market itself as a place chock full of HR and thats great but HR is not limited to putting some links at the top of the forum.
HR needs to be done for some as bluntly as hitting them with a spade across the face and with others it needs to be more subtle, some will get it instantly while others need the repitition drummed into them.
The forum is currently quite successful in terms of numbers visiting and taking part and I think its dangerous to meddle with what has created its success however I do agree that the level of HR info being provided probably could do with a ramping up. I see that news articles are a great way of getting some discussion going on. The thread regards mdma made on a toilet seat is a great thread because it has plenty of subtle pointers for people re HR while discussing an interesting item. Similarly news items provide that opportunity.
If your ideas were followed through with then Aus DD would be a shell a very empty shell.
The point is that AusDD has tried to market itself as a place chock full of HR and thats great but HR is not limited to putting some links at the top of the forum.
HR needs to be done for some as bluntly as hitting them with a spade across the face and with others it needs to be more subtle, some will get it instantly while others need the repitition drummed into them.
The forum is currently quite successful in terms of numbers visiting and taking part and I think its dangerous to meddle with what has created its success however I do agree that the level of HR info being provided probably could do with a ramping up. I see that news articles are a great way of getting some discussion going on. The thread regards mdma made on a toilet seat is a great thread because it has plenty of subtle pointers for people re HR while discussing an interesting item. Similarly news items provide that opportunity.
MrIbis
Bluelighter
yo MazDan, i don't think you post enough round here, and in the 6 odd years i've seen you posting here, you've been an asset. However, the social banter is just rubbish, we don't need to know how high you are, or how much gear you've got - it's little more than dicksizing at the end of the day.
I also believe as aussies, not being in an international forum is also important. We like our information australian centric, and when we get the odd yank coming in here and spouting off about his/her experience with 'dime bags' and 'black tar' it hardly bridges the gap. I can't see why moving our aussie based articles is important. DiTMs presence is mostly US/UK residents - and having less of them posting in 'aussie' threads is of benifit to us. Eventually what this all boils down to is that the threads become fucking pricing discussions about the difference in pricing of particular drug, and how hard it was to get it.
These are things we probably don't need in here.
I also believe as aussies, not being in an international forum is also important. We like our information australian centric, and when we get the odd yank coming in here and spouting off about his/her experience with 'dime bags' and 'black tar' it hardly bridges the gap. I can't see why moving our aussie based articles is important. DiTMs presence is mostly US/UK residents - and having less of them posting in 'aussie' threads is of benifit to us. Eventually what this all boils down to is that the threads become fucking pricing discussions about the difference in pricing of particular drug, and how hard it was to get it.
These are things we probably don't need in here.
Both MazDan and Drug Mentor have interesting points...
I believe there needs to be balance or we would get no traffic flow, a bunch of FAQs isn't what AusDD should become.
Mulls over this, but fuck I got to make some essays, will be back after lunch.
I believe there needs to be balance or we would get no traffic flow, a bunch of FAQs isn't what AusDD should become.
Mulls over this, but fuck I got to make some essays, will be back after lunch.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
that's just taking the piss, maz. i think you're a little out of touch of how things have been operating in AusDD over the last couple of years clearly from what you just wrote. things have definitely picked up in the previous months clearly and the main reason why i've started posting here.
thats right, they need to be hit over the head but you're continually wanting to handfeed them much of everything on a silver platter which is only perpetuating the problems we're having with newer members constantly breaking rules. people need to take responsibility for themselves a bit more rather than relying on us moderators dropping whatever we may be doing at the time and wasting a couple hours with back and forth pms and everything else that goes om behind mods doors.
i don't think anyones mentioned turning this place into an FAQ land but i can point out a couple of FAQesque threads on the front page of AusDD that are high traffic threads which serve great purpose in here.
thats right, they need to be hit over the head but you're continually wanting to handfeed them much of everything on a silver platter which is only perpetuating the problems we're having with newer members constantly breaking rules. people need to take responsibility for themselves a bit more rather than relying on us moderators dropping whatever we may be doing at the time and wasting a couple hours with back and forth pms and everything else that goes om behind mods doors.
i don't think anyones mentioned turning this place into an FAQ land but i can point out a couple of FAQesque threads on the front page of AusDD that are high traffic threads which serve great purpose in here.
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drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
I am glad you see my point of view lefty! Atleast I know I am not all alone. hehe
Mr Ibis, I would like to take this time to ask you why you don't like checking out other parts of the forum? It is this mentality of 90% of AusDD posters I will never understand, especially posters like you ibis who I know are passionate about HR and know their shit. I do understand why you would come here first, because it feels more relevant to you, but there are plenty of topics one can find of relevance to themselves in other focus forums as well as plenty of questions they could probably answer for someone.
What I am saying is we have some top notch posters in here who never go anywhere else, and it is a shame because they have a lot to offer other areas of the site. Its still harm reduction if you stop a guy in California or the Czech Republic from munching down a bucket load of pills or a dangerous drug combination. I feel as though a lot of our posters are in a shell and if they came out the whole site would be better for it. I definately see the need to have an Australian community but what I want to know is why is our mentality different from the rest? Why do people from other regions go in other focus forums more frequently and mix together as international bluelighters talking on straight drug topics, while the majority of Aussies sit in here like anti social hermits? It doesn't seem to me like that attitude benefits the forum as a whole.
I think by keeping a bunch of shit in AusDD that really doesn't belong here for the reason a lot of posters seldom go elsewhere is a poor one. I think maybe some people might branch out into other areas of interest if it didn't all get dumped here. Just my opinion.
Mr Ibis, I would like to take this time to ask you why you don't like checking out other parts of the forum? It is this mentality of 90% of AusDD posters I will never understand, especially posters like you ibis who I know are passionate about HR and know their shit. I do understand why you would come here first, because it feels more relevant to you, but there are plenty of topics one can find of relevance to themselves in other focus forums as well as plenty of questions they could probably answer for someone.
What I am saying is we have some top notch posters in here who never go anywhere else, and it is a shame because they have a lot to offer other areas of the site. Its still harm reduction if you stop a guy in California or the Czech Republic from munching down a bucket load of pills or a dangerous drug combination. I feel as though a lot of our posters are in a shell and if they came out the whole site would be better for it. I definately see the need to have an Australian community but what I want to know is why is our mentality different from the rest? Why do people from other regions go in other focus forums more frequently and mix together as international bluelighters talking on straight drug topics, while the majority of Aussies sit in here like anti social hermits? It doesn't seem to me like that attitude benefits the forum as a whole.
I think by keeping a bunch of shit in AusDD that really doesn't belong here for the reason a lot of posters seldom go elsewhere is a poor one. I think maybe some people might branch out into other areas of interest if it didn't all get dumped here. Just my opinion.
MrIbis
Bluelighter
No i read alot of other focus forums too.. but DiTM doesn't seem as relevant, as world wide drug news really doesn't do it for me.
I read currently:
AusDD
Basic DD
ADD
Other Drugs
SLR
Psychedelic Drugs
S&T
I also think the news on busts plays a pivotal role in a few things here, mainly - showing people how easy it is to be done, therefore serving as a deterant from any high end crime. Some of it is just banter eg; carl williams death, and shit like that.
I find these relevant enough to what i'm interested in. I learn alot from this site.
I read currently:
AusDD
Basic DD
ADD
Other Drugs
SLR
Psychedelic Drugs
S&T
I also think the news on busts plays a pivotal role in a few things here, mainly - showing people how easy it is to be done, therefore serving as a deterant from any high end crime. Some of it is just banter eg; carl williams death, and shit like that.
I find these relevant enough to what i'm interested in. I learn alot from this site.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
Personally I think there is heaps of interesting shit in DitM about drug policy, trends and attitudes worldwide, I realise thats my bag and not everyone else's neccessarily. But really, even if you disregard 99% of articles on there is it really so much effort to click it open every couple of days and scan the first page for something interesting in an effort to keep this forum cleaner?
I have to say ibis I haven't noticed you posting so much in those other forums, I haven't been on them so often lately though I do admit. If you do I would certainly say you are one of few exceptions to the rule.
I have to say ibis I haven't noticed you posting so much in those other forums, I haven't been on them so often lately though I do admit. If you do I would certainly say you are one of few exceptions to the rule.
MrIbis
Bluelighter
i just read them more than post in them... but i do make the occasional post.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ I used to be a big supporter of the social thread, but I have come to realise keeping it detracts from the forum. It is a shame for newer members that missed it who aren't as much a part of the tighter knit community it created but what can you do.
Regardless of whether you, I, or anyone else want it back I think it is safe to say for the time being it is not going to happen.
Regardless of whether you, I, or anyone else want it back I think it is safe to say for the time being it is not going to happen.
hmm during the time it was around i was a passive reader and dont think think it detracted from the hr side. admittingly i didnt read the social thread cause i was interested in HR stuff but then i guess that what most ppl would do anyway just overlook it. also it would keep social discussion out of the other threads.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
^yeah man(DM), i definitely agree with a lot of what you've said in here
the social saw a huge decline in the quality of AusDD and probably attracted quite a bit more attention from LE.
there's aus social as well as other social forums on here to talk shit with everyone else.
i got some more to reply to but not at the moment
the social saw a huge decline in the quality of AusDD and probably attracted quite a bit more attention from LE.
there's aus social as well as other social forums on here to talk shit with everyone else.
i got some more to reply to but not at the moment
puckboy
Greenlighter
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Haha, so true. I was an '06 leaver (we call it 'leavers' in WA not 'schoolies'). I remember articles about big busts of E, meth/speed etc that "were on their way to leavers/schoolies destinations".
Police came to our school and talked to our year. They told us not to smoke weed because "dealers covered it with 'fly-spray' because it opened the airways and got you higher"... "not to take ecstasy because dealers put crushed glass in it as well as crushed fluorescent tube lights"... Then went on about all the sniffer dogs they would have on the main jetty of Rottnest island (popular leavers destination where I was heading).
My friends and I were very paranoid about the dogs, so we went to great lengths to 'hopefully' conceal the smell. Anyway, we get there, not a cop or a dog in sight... get our house sorted and begin partying. By day 4 I was scattered as fuck, must have been the crushed glass in those pills
Haha, so true. I was an '06 leaver (we call it 'leavers' in WA not 'schoolies'). I remember articles about big busts of E, meth/speed etc that "were on their way to leavers/schoolies destinations".
Police came to our school and talked to our year. They told us not to smoke weed because "dealers covered it with 'fly-spray' because it opened the airways and got you higher"... "not to take ecstasy because dealers put crushed glass in it as well as crushed fluorescent tube lights"... Then went on about all the sniffer dogs they would have on the main jetty of Rottnest island (popular leavers destination where I was heading).
My friends and I were very paranoid about the dogs, so we went to great lengths to 'hopefully' conceal the smell. Anyway, we get there, not a cop or a dog in sight... get our house sorted and begin partying. By day 4 I was scattered as fuck, must have been the crushed glass in those pills
Sustanon
Bluelighter
I say lets have a social thread again. I will be speaking to one of the senior senior mods requesting it hopefully it will fall through. One thread cluttered with chit chat is better that multiple threads with chit chats. Bring back the social thread. The guidelines are way to strict. I understand LE and regulations and etc but they have their own resources and have better things to do then to view our discussions as long as its discreet.