Do you or anyone you know seem heavily addicted to Marijuana?

[rave23]

well sure, weed compares nothing to opiates and benzo addiction.

Take gambling for example. that compares nothing to benzos and heroin either. yet, it still manages to destroy lives.

i think you can still feel harmful effects from it even though you may never have physical withdrawal. cannabis addiction is real, and there are people that loose their lives because they like smoking weed too much. And soon that is what they are reduced to. Smoking weed is all they know how to do.

And that is when you have to draw the line. Cannabis distorts reality just like any other drug. You yourself are likely to not even see the situation you're in for what it really is. And for sure, cannabis can lead to serious problems. It rarely ever does though. It just reduces you, and you become content with what you are and where you are. Just because you never hit rock bottom when smoking a lot of dope doesn't mean you're still in a hole, unable to climb out it yourself.

All those that smoke weed every day all day and say "I don't have a problem" are deluded imho. When these people wake up in the morning they are irritable and unable to cope with anything unless they had their weed. And you bet your ass, this is a form of addiction, dependence, whatever you want to call it. It is not good.

that being said, recreational cannabis usage is a lot safer than, say, recreational heroin use.
For most people, the recreational usage ends when they start to smoke every day. I know it ended for me when i smoke every day. I no longer do it because i find it recreational. I do it in order to function, because without it, i would have a harder, more stressfull time. I'd be fine either way, but i would slightly suffer without it. Therefore, i choose to stay high, so i don't have to deal with it. Ah, it all a running away anyway. I am glad i am addicted to cannabis, because being addicted to cannabis is a lot less harmful than back when i was on heroin.

 

[Blowmonkey]

Guarantee, if you were locked in the same room as a heroin addict or an alcoholic for thirty day to clean up, that would change your entire perspective of what addiction is.

That's your rebuttal?

Once again, comparing withdrawal syndromes is silly. You really don't have a point here. And that blanket statement about the people in this thread keeping cannabis illegal, honestly, what a load of crap.

Your opinion of "physical addiction" is just that, an opinion.

 

[jam uh weezy]

i'm the first one to admit i am addicted.

Now hear me out. I have also been addicted to opiates, and i know the two don't compare by any length.
However, i find the cannabis to be ultimately more addicting. You can virtually use cannabis all your life without ever feeling any apparent ill effects from it. Therefore, it never even occurs to you that you should maybe stop, and then there comes the point when all your friends are smoking weed, and you don't even know any non-smokers anymore. It happened to me, i would look forward to smoking weed every day. It was on my mind 24/7 and i didn't even seem to care. it's just weed right? What should have been on my mind is personal advancement, social skills, and pursuing a good school education. but no, as long as i had a job that would pay my bills and i had enough weed to smoke i was a-ok. it didn't even occur to me that i could have done so much better if weed wasn't on my mind all the time.

At times, i ran out of weed, and i would literally skip work to go find weed. When i ran out it was THE MOST STRESS in my life. Nothing could stress me as much as not having any weed. Here, i started to notice that something odd is going on. Sure, i quit cold turkey after going a year all day every day, and i experienced nothing comparable to an opiate WD, but i still wasn't quite the same.

Either way, you are lured into a sense of false safety. The moment a substance is on your mind all the time you start having a problem. When i realized i was doing dope every day, i saw the ill effects it had on me (health wise, withdrawals, financial situation etc.). With weed, i never perceived anything wrong. And if something seemed odd, it was ignored until it became a problem or went away on it's own. So i missed many many chances in my life being caught up with cannabis. It seemed like everybody was smoking it. That was because i only surrounded myself with weed smokers, i didn't even know any normal people anymore.

It came to me one day, when i walked into the house i sometimes smoke at. everybody there was already stoned, and just staring at the TV while one person was playing COD. I was sober at the time, and i realized that these people do nothing all day except smoke weed, sit on their ass, and are caught up in a world of distractions while they should really try to improve their own situation. but no, as long as there was a place to sleep and weed to smoke, everything was A-OK.

Ever sine that day, i greatly slowed down with weed. I still smoke every day. But i changed my usage patterns drastically. Back then, i would sit around and get high, and then, i'd get more high. Today, i save the weed until my day is over, i accomplished something, and i don't have to deal with anything major. And then, i smoke a joint or two, enjoy the high while relaxing, and go to sleep. It's not a sport anymore to get as high as possible. These days are over for me. Nowadays, it's the less weed i smoke, the better.

I try to derive something positive from it. It needs to do something good for me, otherwise it's wasted money. When i smoked every day all day, it did nothing good for me, except slow me down a lot. Now, i get relaxation after a stressful day from it, and i believe this is the way this stuff is meant to be enjoyed. If i smoke too much, the cons start to outweigh the pros, but smoking weed, you don't see this. That is why i make it my priority to spend most of my day sober. My sobriety is something i cherish, because only when you know what sober feels like you can truly appreciate the drugs effects.

our perspectives and experiences are very congruent. I first smoked weed at 16, and it was scary as shit. I've never felt so much irrational fear and anxiety and had so many crazy thoughts run through my head. I don't know why I always chose to smoke, but being sober I always forgot how much weed truly fucks me up, that and hanging around a bunch of seasoned stoners helped....

after a few months i started buying my own. taking a bong rip, before or after any sort of event became the norm. gonna watch a movie? bong rip. shower? bong rip. bike ride? bong rip...etc. during this time i was working full time, making quite a bit of money for someone my age, and when i quit that job i didn't have a cent to show for it. i was spending it all on marijuana.

i smoked just about all day everyday till i was 20...almost 21. dry spells made me extremely frustrated and irritable and getting a new sack was all i could think about. the contrasting effect of being high all the time and then sobering up was like a new high in itself.
i've also experienced a little addiction with opiates....nothing serious, but enough to wake me up and make me realize the effect drugs like that have on a person. weed does really have the sort of false-sense of security, "it's just weed", without truly comprehending how you're life might be if i wasnt high all the time.

to this day i'm am able to keep a little personal stash of any type of drug and not touch it until the occasion calls for it. except weed. the only way for me to not smoke weed is to not keep it around. something about it, if i have it i have to get high on it. i still pick up some every now and then, and it's always the same process: i am able to abstain till night time, then i blaze. another night another toke....and slowly but surely as the days pass I will start blazing earlier and earlier in the day without taking care of my obligations first. and once i smoke my first bowl, i'm gonna smoke many after that. shit is literally my green crack.




i have to say, my experience with weed has left me a better person. i think mainly because i used to be such a socially anxious person, and weed always amplified that, i was able to experience a sort of parachute effect from it when i wasnt high and understand myself better. i still like to get high and draw....but only every now and then. and i have to make sure i don't buy any or keep large amounts....weed effects me very strongly, i think a little more than the average person. it fuuucks me up. when i get high i ignore everything and everyone that matters to me. it really is my escape from reality.

 

[FacedAgain]

this thread is a great read. lots of raw emotion u cant argue with.

 

[aldare]

As far as addiction to marijuana is concerned, I can commit I was heavily addicted to it. Have been smoking a lot of times every day for about 5 years and when I wanted to quit, I was almost unable doing so. Getting rid of my addiction cost me about next 3-4 years and was accompanied by quite hard physical (heart, breathing etc.) and mental problems.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

--Faced again.... I could argue all day but I know its frowned upon to tell people they aren't addicted to things on BL cuz everyones different etc etc.

But yea Im sure I seem heavily addicted to marijuana, you would also think Im heavily addicted to TV.....but I could go on vacation and not be miserable without pot or TV....not true with suboxone.

BTW im a chronic smoker, 3 joints of white widow (slightly premature admittedly) and its noon so far, been this way for a decade now. Im pretty sure if I could get addicted I would be. Theres a difference between something being part of your daily routine and being addicted.

 

[squidhead]

Theres a difference between something being part of your daily routine and being addicted.

This is exactly it right there!!
I don't wake-up & start getting blasted all day. I wait for my day to complete & then for evening relaxation, I fire-up the bong or vaporizer [whichever mood I'm in] & unwind after a hard day of retirement.
I can't even remember [uhh oh...short-term memory loss] the last 'wake & bake' I did...but for 41 yrs, I toke after 6 p.m. Are the people who have an evening cocktail addicted to alcohol? The people who have 1, maybe 2 drinks after work...then call it quits & eat dinner?
Some days I don't even toke...& I don't jones for a joint. I feel it's the same principle as how some people are prone to addictions & others aren't. Now that's only for 'psychological addictions'. 'Physical addictions' are 100% real & everyone who uses something that causes physical addictions are...uhh...hmm...physically addicted.

 

[w01fg4ng]

All of you who are saying you're addicted don't seem to understand what addiction is. You think because you smoke weed all the time and don't want to be without it that you're addicted. I've never been addicted to anything, but I've dealt with a lot of addicts. Guarantee, if you were locked in the same room as a heroin addict or an alcoholic for thirty day to clean up, that would change your entire perspective of what addiction is.

People who say they're addicted to weed are just participating in keeping marijuana illegal.

drug snob

 

[jam uh weezy]

This is exactly it right there!!
I don't wake-up & start getting blasted all day. I wait for my day to complete & then for evening relaxation, I fire-up the bong or vaporizer [whichever mood I'm in] & unwind after a hard day of retirement.
I can't even remember [uhh oh...short-term memory loss] the last 'wake & bake' I did...but for 41 yrs, I toke after 6 p.m. Are the people who have an evening cocktail addicted to alcohol? The people who have 1, maybe 2 drinks after work...then call it quits & eat dinner?
Some days I don't even toke...& I don't jones for a joint. I feel it's the same principle as how some people are prone to addictions & others aren't. Now that's only for 'psychological addictions'. 'Physical addictions' are 100% real & everyone who uses something that causes physical addictions are...uhh...hmm...physically addicted.

whats the longest amountof days you've gone without your evening toke. i bet you anything if you go 2, 3 days without you'll feel an overwhelming desire to do nothing but get high.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

This thread was a wonderful read for me as I am struggling to get off this shit at the moment, so I will add my story to further encourage those who have seen through that awful cloud of smoke hanging over any stoner's mind and realized that chronic marijuana smoking can be a serious problem.
I have been stoned for 5 years, from the early hours of the morning til the very end of the day. Well, I managed to get off the stuff for two weeks over the summer but after making the mistake of taking a hungover toke I have been high as fuck ever since. There is no physical withdrawal but a significant emotional attachment to the drug. I can't do anything without being stoned, hell, I wrote my engineering exams high out of my mind because I can't control myself at all. I find it very strange because I never heard that marijuana had addictive properties when I was getting into it- I mean, you never hear from the daily smokers that it does them any harm at all. Everyone just praises the benign, euphoric pot that is less harmful to you than anything on the face of the Earth. But that is because of stoner culture and the reputation of stoners being the chillest, kindest people ever, everyone just likes to fit into that to justify being high all the time, and because it's 'cool'.
I can tell you that I am far more open minded and chilled out when I'm not baked. It basically makes me (and most people) retarded and extremely amotivational. It makes me socially anxious around people I don't know, especially non-stoners, because, well, I simply don't give a fuck about anything that doesn't involve dope, and I'm too lazy to make the effort of making new friends especially if they don't even get high. I have missed out on countless females because of this, and more than just that- grad school, a family who respects me, etc. Smoking weed eases the pain of these things which is mainly why I smoke it these days, but at the same time, it makes improving my situation impossible because it makes me numb and content with just existing and doing nothing at all.
I try to justify it because I am a fully functional member of society, becoming an engineer, with notable accomplishments. My life is going somewhere, and I smoke pot. But i have no soul and I am not reaching my full potential at all; and I am simply not happy. And I'm so fucking stoned all the time I don't even realize this shit until the odd time when I say enough is enough or I can't find any.
I'm only writing this because I haven't smoked in 3 days and I'm doing really well for myself. If I was stoned, I'd be writing about how great and harmless it is. Fuck, I almost just went and bought a half ounce, stopped at the last second and got some workout supplements instead, I would have smoked that shit in 3 days anyway and would have been scrounging for more. And I really, really want to quit.
Man, I have responsibly used alcohol, mdma, cocaine, psychedelics, and caffeine for a long time. I don't seem to have an addictive personality at all except with marijuana. I can also say that those drugs have caused me no noticeable adverse effects whatsoever, and have often been somewhat beneficial, and that the only drug I regret ever trying is pot.
I have seen this drug steal peoples lives countless times. They continue to smoke even though their lives are going nowhere. Some of these people think I'm crazy for experimenting with substances other than pot, and say that they are so much more harmful. But these people are university dropouts who sit around stoned on a couch all day eating junk food, and they seem to love and praise marijuana. Don't listen to these people. If pot affects you like myself and most people I have met, it is nothing but fucking garbage.
And to those people polluting these threads by saying how much worse heroin addiction is: I have never done heroin, but I can't imagine how the emotional pain from quitting could be worse than what I'm going through. I have been severely hungover multiple times and I imagine heroin withdrawal is like a neverending hangover along with horrendous emotional pain. But come on, what the fuck did you expect, you tried heroin! Pot has still ruined my life, and to whine about how heroin withdrawal gives you a tummy ache instead of saying encouraging things makes you sound like a bunch of whiners, and makes me never want to try heroin.

 

[CharlesTheHammer]

^^ Rave itsrealfun, at least you will never try heroin after this thread, thats a good thing!

As far as you smoking a 1/2 oz in 3 days......Wow! I've known quite a few people who did that too, but I can't even imagine how long 1/2 oz would've lasted me while I was still smoking........ I would always smoke my pot with my friends, so I dont know how long it would last me if I smoked all of it myself, but I bet It would've lasted a year or more!

 

[rave23]

our perspectives and experiences are very congruent. I first smoked weed at 16, and it was scary as shit. I've never felt so much irrational fear and anxiety and had so many crazy thoughts run through my head. I don't know why I always chose to smoke, but being sober I always forgot how much weed truly fucks me up, that and hanging around a bunch of seasoned stoners helped....

after a few months i started buying my own. taking a bong rip, before or after any sort of event became the norm. gonna watch a movie? bong rip. shower? bong rip. bike ride? bong rip...etc. during this time i was working full time, making quite a bit of money for someone my age, and when i quit that job i didn't have a cent to show for it. i was spending it all on marijuana.

i smoked just about all day everyday till i was 20...almost 21. dry spells made me extremely frustrated and irritable and getting a new sack was all i could think about. the contrasting effect of being high all the time and then sobering up was like a new high in itself.
i've also experienced a little addiction with opiates....nothing serious, but enough to wake me up and make me realize the effect drugs like that have on a person. weed does really have the sort of false-sense of security, "it's just weed", without truly comprehending how you're life might be if i wasnt high all the time.

to this day i'm am able to keep a little personal stash of any type of drug and not touch it until the occasion calls for it. except weed. the only way for me to not smoke weed is to not keep it around. something about it, if i have it i have to get high on it. i still pick up some every now and then, and it's always the same process: i am able to abstain till night time, then i blaze. another night another toke....and slowly but surely as the days pass I will start blazing earlier and earlier in the day without taking care of my obligations first. and once i smoke my first bowl, i'm gonna smoke many after that. shit is literally my green crack.




i have to say, my experience with weed has left me a better person. i think mainly because i used to be such a socially anxious person, and weed always amplified that, i was able to experience a sort of parachute effect from it when i wasnt high and understand myself better. i still like to get high and draw....but only every now and then. and i have to make sure i don't buy any or keep large amounts....weed effects me very strongly, i think a little more than the average person. it fuuucks me up. when i get high i ignore everything and everyone that matters to me. it really is my escape from reality.

Don't get me wrong. I still smoke weed every day. But in a slightly different manner.
Nowadays, i smoke because i am able to derive benefits from the high itself. I live a pretty productive life, and no matter how stressful it gets, stress never phases me. And that's good. I now understand how much weed is too much weed, and when a beneficial high starts to turn into recreation.

I never just smoke weed by itself, as in, i sit down and smoke, then, smoke more. It gets connected to the activities of my day that i intend to do, and usually at night, i watch movies, play games etc. Cannabis is a welcome part during this time of day.

I guess it all comes down to boundaries. A lot of people lack the experience to even understand how cannabis can be addicting, and how it can negatively affect your life. Understanding these key steps are important to enjoying cannabis.

 

[Homegrownuk]

Its not addictive! I should know, i been smoking for years!!

 

[Outta Pocket]

to all thos who say there is no physical addiction, they are wrong. Your body will react to lack of a chemical that it has become used to.
I am addicted. PHYSICALLY.

when i stop smoking i cant eat, sleep, or control my body temp; i'm either cold or sweating with clammy/sweaty hands.
its subsides after about 3 days but it is clearly from my body being used to having THC present at all times.

Its not like its really horrible in any way, its just kind of an inconvenience/mild discomfort like a mild fever and lack of appetite.

i get the same, it's NOT psychosomatic despite what somebody might think

it can be uncomfortable if I have to handle business / be in public

 

[squidhead]

whats the longest amountof days you've gone without your evening toke. i bet you anything if you go 2, 3 days without you'll feel an overwhelming desire to do nothing but get high.

You sure you want to take that wager? About once a year, I'll take a week or 2 off from tokin' & it doesn't pull at me in the least.
Giving up cigarettes was more nerve-racking than a vacation from weed. It's strange, though, the longer I've toked, the less it takes me to get to my cruising altitude. Not sure if other long-time weedheads experience the same thing, but I would've thought that the longer I've toked, the more it'd take for me to get high...& it's exactly the opposite.
I'm not complaining in the least...it's way more economical this way.

 

[nekointheclouds]

this thread is a great read. lots of raw emotion u cant argue with.

hahaha. Deep shit.

 

[ech0s85]

i was way addicted to weed for like 5 years.

The only physical thing i noticed was trouble sleeping for a couple nights and not being hungry really for a couple days. But then after those couple days i slept way better and actually had dreams i remembered.

Im now addicted to heroin, and trying to quit is just the same as quitting weed was. The mental part is the hardest, and mental addiction is mental addiction. I feel exactly the same feelings while trying to quit both. with the right meds getting off heroin is not bad at all phsyically, its just in your head its tough.

i know tons of people addicted to weed that wont admit it or dont realize it. Ive even had one person say "im not addicted to weed, i just smoke it everyday"

 

[Kudders]

I think mary jane is definately addictive psychologically. When I had an accident that prompted me to begin treatment for opioid dependency I had trouble sleeping for a month and was very moody, but that was due to both drugs leaving my body simultaneously. But from other experiences, from years ago when I only smoked, I always found it harder after a week or so, like it got harder to deal with not having it. Considering the fact that I felt better when I got to smoke numerous times a day vs. the fact that I am moody and easily agitated when not smoking it, in that respect, i'd consider it addictive - however, i don't believe it to be harmful in the slightest. My opioid addiction could take me out, my marijuana use tends to save me!

 

[benzoheadplus44]

It it wasn't addicting I wouldn't spend 100 dollars a day on it... maybe i just love it that much

 

[oldhead]

its psychologically addictive, you climb the walls a bit and get a bit narky maybe cant sleep as quickly as you do when you have, but after a few days without you fine, but there is no physical addiction

As someone who has been toking daily for 40 year (true story) I agree with this statement. No physical pain like getting off of opiates (a real mother fucker) but I do climb the walls without it. Bored to death and have no appitite. Sleep is a joke without it.