Cycles of Use/Abuse

[psytaco]

1. Curiosity due to drug education at school (LOL).
2. started smoking tobacco, originally to get my lungs ready for marijuana. I still smoke ciggarettes to this day.
3. Alcohol - use about once weekly.
4. Marijuana. Initially tried it when I was 15, and absolutely loved it. I abused it most days. Now I don't smoke it at all because it causes me alot of anxiety and paranoia.
5. MDMA - first tried it when I was 18. for a couple of years just used it once every few months and loved it.
6. Psychedelics - First tried when I was 20. I will still use psychedelics a few times a year, consistent with how I have always used them.
7. Fast forward to been 22 to 23. Regular use/abuse of MDMA and mephedrone. heavily nearly every weekend.
8. aged 23, abuse of oxycodone most days for about a month - stopped before it got too problematic.
9. aged 24. regular use of codeine. Now only use it sparringly.
10. aged 24. daily use of benzos. ended up with an addiction. had to tapper. now very occassional use.

These days.
occassional use of methamphetamine, LSD, DMT, codeine and benzos. Daily smoker, and weekly user of alcohol.

 

[Sustanon]

Age: 15-16

Started smoking green when i was introduced to it at the age of 15-16 during high school. High school starts in year 9 in Europe. It got me quite fascinated and had the urge to try something different so i started smoking tobacco whilst goin out partying with weed, alcohol and ciggies.

Age: 16-17

Started going out to massive raves once a month which ended up 3 times a week first time trying mdma in pill form. Only had half and felt great but never got the real taste of it so next time i went tried 4 x (120-150mg) pills which instantly made me fall in love with MDMA. Eventually after doing it for half a year i came across amphetamine sulphate which everyone was also using at the club i used to go to. Combined the two substances and was incredible. This went on for a number of years til i got arrested for possession.

I ended up goin to rehab to get off everything so i went back to booze. I didnt go out as much anymore due to all the problems i was experiencing. Started hitting the gym then ended up using steroids (alot). Withdrawals were the worst coming off MDMA especially. Not long after i was back on amphetamine sulphate on a daily basis for atleast a year or more.

Age: 18-19
Became very interested in mind expanding drugs such as LSD and Shrooms. At the time it was impossible for me to find acid so ended up doin LSA and shrooms on a weekly basis then finally found a good hookup for Acid so started doin that as well. I became so fascinated about psychedelics that i ended up trying Mescaline and DMT and various other Psychs.

Age: 20 or so
Was searching for a legal replacement for MDMA so decided to try sum piperazines (biggest mistake in my life but wont go into that), also tried sum GBL which i then turned into powdered GHB. I was still searching for a legal/illegal alternatives including coke (these were all legal in Europe at the time except coek of course lol) and came across numerous Research Chems like 2CB, 2CI, 2CE etc

Age: 21-22
Still searching for a legal substitute for MDMA i tried various JWH's (alternative to green) and tried 4mmc, methylone, Ketamine (i know its not a research chem lol) and a variety of different things that i cannot recall anymore due to quite a bit of memory loss.

Age: 23-24
Was looking for a cheap and legal buzz so decided to try codeine just by popping a few pills to get effects, nowdays id extract 700-1000mg worth. Have been doin it 4 times a week ever since which has been 2 years now. After a while it just didnt cut it so i started to experiment and i decided to add sum oxys to it wont go into specific doses but were rather quite high due to tolerance issues. Opiates have fascinated me so much that i started combining codeine, xanax, oxys and DXM to potentiate the high. Ocasionally i do H and morphine if i have a chance or come across it.

Things i consume thesedays:

Daily: Alprazolams
4 times a week : Codeine, xanax, oxys, DXM and even added sum kava kava powder extract to maximize the effects.

Every month or 2: If i go out clubbing which isnt that often but i usually do sum ice/"base", crystal molly, drink a bit and blast it with poppers and pop a few bars or seroquels at the end to bring me down at the end and to help me get sum rest.

Done a whole range of pharms and went thru phases where i have abused valiums, imovanes and clonazepams and whatever pharms were on tap LOL. Guess i have reached a dead end and thinkin its a bout time i pull my act together and maybe even seek sum help. I find it hard to live my life without Opies and benzos. Have even thought about getting on methadone or subies but if i decide to stop one day i will do it by myself like i did previously.

 

[Sameria]

Definitely sounds like it's time to get some help man. BL is here if you ever need a hand, you already know this

So far I've managed to restrict my opiate use to codeine 20-30 times (have now given up becaues I can't be bothered with huge doses) and Morphine a couple of times (very nice - but thank god hard for me to find). Opiates/Pharms are a dark dark road best kept thin..just so hard getting fat and greedy ;(

 

[Sustanon]

Do u guys notice a pattern?? Seems that benzos and opies are at the end of the list and most of our lists are the same or similar.

 

[thestudent14]

I've definately noticed this, I imagine I would've followed a similar pattern had the MDMA drought not taken place when I was still getting into the scene.

I wonder what direction it will take me once the drought is over, the amount I've learnt in the last few years of how much to take and people cycles of weekly MDMA.

But on the flipside MDMA being so difficult to get for so long sure makes me wanna abuse the shit out of it when I get a steady flow of it once again haha.

 

[Jakeperson]

Do u guys notice a pattern?? Seems that benzos and opies are at the end of the list and most of our lists are the same or similar.

Seems that way and seems like I have jumped the list too fast for some one my ages. Gotta live with your decisions however. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

I've definately noticed this, I imagine I would've followed a similar pattern had the MDMA drought not taken place when I was still getting into the scene.

I wonder what direction it will take me once the drought is over, the amount I've learnt in the last few years of how much to take and people cycles of weekly MDMA.

But on the flipside MDMA being so difficult to get for so long sure makes me wanna abuse the shit out of it when I get a steady flow of it once again haha.

Interesting, I used to abuse MDMA back when I could but now pills are shit I look for any other kinda high. If it wasn't for the MDMA dought I would be looking forward to my next MDMA high on the weekend instead of trying to get high on whatever I can get my hands on every day of the week. Before this drought I never even considered alcohol, opiate or benzo usage, now I get cravings for all 3 every day 'cause i can't look forward to feeling amazing on the weekend.

 

[Salty24]

There has been some great posts in here! Personally my journey was like this:

Alcohol -> Weed -> Cocaine -> MDMA -> Amphetamines -> psychedelics(very soon) and maybe try a CWE

My parents are pretty decent drinkers so dad often offered me a middy of beer when we had pizza or they had friend over. Started drinking at highschool parties and stealing pot off my older sister to have a few cones. Had coke when I went to europe after leaving highschool. Had my first good pill at BDO (still remember the joys of that day), I was chasing finding that feeling for 4 years while dabbling a little in speed. Now I just take speed every so often when I have any money or need to study badly but generally just drink when I go out, which i find incredibly boring now. So hopefully going to try some acid or shrooms when exams finish as I've always wanted to try them, also maybe a CWE.

 

[Sustanon]

Did someone say drought??
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Might be harder to get but def hasnt been too bad in the past year. The problem is there are way too many RCs that mimic MDMA's effects whereas say 8 years ago or so when i 1st started taking them i didnt even know what RC meant LOL

 

[thestudent14]

Drought is still very real in Melbourne, I agree not as bad as a it was 12-18 months ago. But it's still extremely hard to get.

Interesting, I used to abuse MDMA back when I could but now pills are shit I look for any other kinda high. If it wasn't for the MDMA dought I would be looking forward to my next MDMA high on the weekend instead of trying to get high on whatever I can get my hands on every day of the week. Before this drought I never even considered alcohol, opiate or benzo usage, now I get cravings for all 3 every day 'cause i can't look forward to feeling amazing on the weekend.

This is an interesting point, I like to think that if MDMA had been readily available I would've stuck to it, but ultimately from the first time I had good MDMA I've been far more curious about what other drugs could bring. None yet have compared to MDMA im my opinion but that doesn't mean I wouldn't experiment with opiates and maybe like the many I'll end up being happpier on opiates chilling doing my own thing, then hitting the town on miss molly.

Based on my personality seems unlikely, but I bet many of the pill poppers from years ago would've said nothing would replace MDMA and yet so many find Opiates later down ther track.

 

[Sustanon]

Based on my personality seems unlikely, but I bet many of the pill poppers from years ago would've said nothing would replace MDMA and yet so many find Opiates later down ther track.

Thats exactly what i said LOL Altho everyone is different.