Opioids Is there something wrong with my brain?

[dokomo]

Do you often take medicine with an S atom in its structure or do you just recommend it to other people? ^.^

I don't really understand your question--

Have I taken modafinil? Yes.
Does it contain a sulfur atom? Yes.
Do I often take sulfur containing medications? Yes, we all do. Compounds like s-adenosylmethionine are essential for transmethylation.

If you're somehow trying to say that it contains sulfur and some people are allergic to sulfur, you should remember that people are typically allergic to sulfur COMPOUNDS (most commonly sulfonamides or sulfites) not the sulfur atom itself.

Here's a little insight:


MODAFINIL adverse effects:




DEXTROAMPHETAMINE adverse effects:

None.

You missed a few.

(I apologize for the huge image, the iphone4 resolution is much higher and results in a lot bigger screenshots.)

Modafinil is largely a very safe medication, with side effects few and far between.

 

[Ksa]

I don't really understand your question--

Have I taken modafinil? Yes.
Does it contain a sulfur atom? Yes.
Do I often take sulfur containing medications? Yes, we all do. Compounds like s-adenosylmethionine are essential for transmethylation.

That's an anabolic reaction occurring inside the body not a medicine you take. I feel trolled...And because a certain type of chemical is present inside the body it doesn't mean that it's safe...take a shot of glucose oxidase if you don't believe me ^.^

If you're somehow trying to say that it contains sulfur and some people are allergic to sulfur, you should remember that people are typically allergic to sulfur COMPOUNDS (most commonly sulfonamides or sulfites) not the sulfur atom itself.

Sulfur is a yellow rock...you're obviously trolling me, of course I meant compounds ^.^

Read this:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/sulfa.htm

I won't go over my organic 3 class over again with you.

 

[dokomo]

That's an anabolic reaction occurring inside the body not a medicine you take. I feel trolled...And because a certain type of chemical is present inside the body it doesn't mean that it's safe...take a shot of glucose oxidase if you don't believe me ^.^



Sulfur is a yellow rock...you're obviously trolling me, of course I meant compounds ^.^

Read this:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/sulfa.htm

I won't go over my organic 3 class over again with you.

I it's becoming clear who is doing the trolling here.

Let's not take this thread any further off-topic.

 

[jamesBrown]

So I am assuming you are saying you are now off suboxone. Why did you stop taking it if it has all those benefits?

to prove to people like you and others who may doubt the effectiveness of my sub tapering/maintanence techniques, that they actually do work for many people.

Also....because i wasnt addicted to it, i simply dont need a reason to stop using it.

Its like saying "why have you stopped drinking cranberry juice?"(which i love by the way).......because I dont need to take the cranberry juice even though it can benefit me(clean urinary tract, etc...) so theres nothing wrong with stopping drinking it. Its the same with the suboxone......i didnt need it, so I stopped taking it.

 

[punchednthenose]

Here's a little insight:


MODAFINIL adverse effects:




DEXTROAMPHETAMINE adverse effects:

None.

This is taken from a study and from the following website:
http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-d04.html


Adverse Effects

Cardiovascular:
Palpitation, tachycardia, elevation of blood pressure. There have been isolated reports of cardiomyopathy associated with chronic amphetamine use.

CNS:
Overstimulation, restlessness, dizziness, insomnia, euphoria, dysphoria, tremor, headache, exacerbation of tics, Tourette's syndrome and psychotic episodes (rare at recommended doses).

Gastrointestinal:
Dryness of mouth, unpleasant taste, diarrhea, constipation, other gastrointestinal disturbances. Anorexia and weight loss may occur.

Allergic:
Urticaria.

Endocrine:
Impotence, changes in libido.

 

[Ksa]

To the original OP. I think the reason why 60mg Adderal makes you sleepy is because it works your body too much especially the heart. I missed this info before. If I were you I would stop taking stimulants because it's a health risk...one should not be tired on stimulants and especially not on 60mg of Adderal...

Amphetamine is not magic. It does not create energy. It simply gathers your body resources in a more productive manner. If there's no resources to gather...you get exactly your feeling...tired, exhausted. You need to lighten up man, go eat healthy, drink sleep 9 hours a day...

I doubt there's other explanations...downers like heroin or codeine just relax your body, slow down the heart rate so by lowering your metabolism the body doesn't have to use that many resources so you feel less sleepy. Nobody can tell for sure but you just sound like someone exhausted...It could be from overwork, overstress, drug abuse, vigorous lengthy sex, it could be anything...it's up to you to judge what the excess is.

 

[Ksa]

I take d-amphetamine myself daily and every day I feel like a normal person.

One time I had 3 exam days one after the other and the day the exams were done I partied all night at my friends house so I had no sleep at all (after days of hard work) and no food, just drinks.
I went to school the next day and felt like shit so I took my normal dose of 15mg and I felt even shittier...I slept through all my classes.

You aren't the only one to experience this lol...whatever you're doing you need to lighten up. Get 3 meals a day and 9 hours of sleep. Some exercise wouldn't hurt you either but don't exercise on 60mg adderal, you'll get a fever.

So I am still right, downers is a poor choice of treatment. Not eating, working a lot, sleeping 3 hours a night and then taking Oxycontin or other sleep supressors to wake you up will get you killed on the long run.


I got another example. Good one. Was last year during finals. In engineering we study 20 days, 8 hours a day. So the first 4 days I was doing fine but after a week of dex-study-sleep-dex-study-sleep...I developed a fatigue...the dex worked less and less so my study hours went from 8 to 7 then 6 then 5 lol.
It ended with a huge migraine so I took 60mg codeine before bed time. Babies don't sleep this well. I woke up the next day, took the day off, went to eat with my friends and the day after I felt reborn, I started the 8 hours a day schedule again.

 

[diver]

Background real quick, I have an extremely high tolerance for painkillers of any kind the ones I've tried are: Oxy 80's, Norco 10's, and Dilaudids. I've railed in upwards of 180mg of oxy pre-loading with tagamet and combining with sodium bicarbonate/cyclobenzaprine to potentiate the effects.

I think I might have depression or something (the cause I have no idea I'm not a downer at all in fact I'm pretty lively). I say this because I am ALWAYS tired and ALWAYS sore like I've just run a marathon from the time I get up until the time I go to bed.

I rarely do opiates because I enjoy them so much and it takes so much to get me high that I'd bankrupt myself if I overindulged. I notice though when I take opiates the next day I can actually wake up with no problems! It's like a miracle cure for my zombie-like brain-fogged mornings. I usually have such a hard time waking up it's so bad I've screwed up my school and my jobs. And even when I do manage to wake up on time I'm literally a useless zombie for hours and no amount of coffee will wake me. I had to go fake the ADD symptoms to get uppers and I still fall asleep on them. I take 60mgs of adderall when my alarm goes off then FALL BACK ASLEEP and usually I can then drag myself to a cold shower.

My Question: Why do opiates completely eliminate this? I want to tell my doctor but if he thinks I've been doing narcotics w/o a script he'll stop my adderall scripts and then I'll really be screwed.

I feel like I might actually be able to achieve some shit in my life if I could get a script for painlkillers.

Any advice is appreciated before I'm forced to drop out of school and start panhandling.

I'm that way myself.
I'm a zombie in the morning and I don't really wake up til noon. Earlier than that, I'm just fakin it.
Some ppl are just like that - Not morning people.
LOVE opiates... Opiates are my best friend, they help me in every way and the only side effects I can say I don't like are constipation and addiction.
Opiates (opioids) help me wake up in the morning and sleep at night and relax under stress.
I wish I hadn't been made this way. I consider myself very fortunate when I can find a connection who will give me good deals on PKs, cause my doc won't write me a script for em.
But there have been studies where they've experimented with opioids as an antidepressant, and they worked very well for some people.

Good Luck

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

To the guys arguing about black box warnings...my country doesn't have that extreme fear of medications where moderately rare effects are put as being a major danger. No patient gets anything like this if they get prescibed adderal or dexedrine here.

 

[dokomo]

I'm glad that the link I provided enlightened a few of you. I don't think it helps the OP and I don't want to further derail his thread, but I am wondering if we should try to create a thread and see if anyone else feels the same way as us.

I read that site about a year or two ago and there's not much on the net so I never brought it up to my PCP. But I've chipped away since for the most part since and still firmly believe it was better then effexor, which I was on for years.

That's not my website.. I'm not promoting it.. But it does have some very interesting insight.

Excellent idea! I went ahead and created one here

 

[CitioKid]

to prove to people like you and others who may doubt the effectiveness of my sub tapering/maintanence techniques, that they actually do work for many people.

Also....because i wasnt addicted to it, i simply dont need a reason to stop using it.

Its like saying "why have you stopped drinking cranberry juice?"(which i love by the way).......because I dont need to take the cranberry juice even though it can benefit me(clean urinary tract, etc...) so theres nothing wrong with stopping drinking it. Its the same with the suboxone......i didnt need it, so I stopped taking it.

Sorry, I need to lay off.

There are ten thousand things I want to scream from the top of every roof when I hear suboxone compared to cranberry juice. But I didn't, and I won't, and I shon't.

I really am happy for you, JB, if you have finally conquered your opiate addiction. It's one of the hardest things in the world to do, so you deserve credit.

Hopefully my recovery from cranberry juice will follow suite.

 

[SkagKush]

^hahahaha

only if eh....... i dont really like cran juice.... so dope addiction would be easy to stop........

 

[bighooter]

exactly how i feel whenever i do opiates the next day i feel beautiful

 

[doppelganga196]

Hey OP, have you tried Tramadol?

It is a quasi opioid of the fully synthetic variety with powerful stimulant effects.

It's not without its drawbacks but it may be worth looking into.

 

[GottaCatchEmAll]

So after conferring with some of my friends (smart ones) I've decided to start a course of treatment. Before all yall begin with the whole 'self administering drugs is your rationalization of your addiction' read on. I'm gonna start supplementing with d-phenylalanine, phosphatidylserine, and iron sulfate. If theres an imbalance this should cure it or at least show some signs of major improvement. If this don't work then maybe I'll consider seeing a doc but I already know what they'll prescribe me and I doubt I'll wanna put those nasty chems in my brain.