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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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incognition said:
Not an overdose. I bet you can go over a gram without any problems. I did 350, and my body functions were completely ok. I even "died" but i were still sitting properly in my chair when i came back. :) She was intubated because of the sedatives she had to have. The girl must have been completely nuts. Remember what i said about psychotic outbreaks? 8o
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i've had freinds have psychotic outbreaks on ketamine whilst their mates were in a k-hole, thinking they were dead etc. it's not pleasant and paramedics ended up being called only to have that pulp fiction moment where they come round and the first thing they say is "Fucking trippy" :\
 
knockando said:
I have to say 50mg is an entirely different ballgame compared to 35mg. It gets seriously psychedelic: I dissolved, forgot who I was, didn't know how I would resolve the situation. Of course the situation resolved itself and I've felt fucking fantastic ever since :)

As mentioned earlier, music was fantastic at this dose. At 20-35mg I really wasn't that overwhelmed with music. But I found renewed interest (read: tangible objects of sound manifest in 3D space) in stuff I have not been very excited about for a while.

I am enthused to go yet further with this chemical, it seems to keep on giving.
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I can fully support knockandos statement. I ventured from my first experience (10mg at T+0 and 30mg at T+1h) to an initial dosis of 50mg insufflated. I must add that I do not have the crazy dissociative tolerance that many methoxetamine afficionados seem to have from prolonged use of ket, and did not sleep the night before for various reasons.

50mg insufflated pinned me to my bed for more than six hours. I lost any orientation in space and time and coherent thinking dissolved in a roaring stream of concepts that manifested themselves as beautiful and dark CEV's. For the first two hours it was a fight to determine which of the layers or ways to arrange my inner perception was actually consensus reality. I gave up somewhere down the line and a full trance-like state took over completely. I clearly haven't seen the full power of this one during my first experiment, and I suspect it's capable of even more. It's interesting to venture in this universe a little but I think the world of serotonergic psychedelics is more suitable for me.

I looked forward to test the way methoxetamines enhances music appreciation but no luck. I watched the new Wall Street movie (didn't like it btw.) on my laptop while effects were building. When I finally started to put some musik on, I realized that I was to far gone to manipulate the machine. It was to hard to remember all the little steps and clicks you need to select some decent music and put it on, it didn't help that my vision was fucked either. So I was stuck with Wall Street, and indeed dialog of the movie seemed to come from split parts of my personality or to be of some kind of ominoius importance, before they became incomprehensible alien gibberish.

The effects took a long time to wane. I was forced to go to work at a solid plus one. Impaired motor control, slightly enhanced colors, taste of salty cardboard in my mouth and a slight difficulty finding the exact words to express myself. Nothing to complain about but decidedly off baseline. Really back to where I started 12 hours after dosing. I think I will never reach for this chemical again without a good nights sleep prior and having made all necessary preparations beforehand.
 
agnetha said:
I must add that I do not have the crazy dissociative tolerance that many methoxetamine afficionados seem to have from prolonged use of ket.
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Same here.
For the first two hours it was a fight to determine which of the layers or ways to arrange my inner perception was actually consensus reality. I gave up somewhere down the line and a full trance-like state took over completely.
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It was at this point I reached for my music in an attempt to stop spinning round in bed (literally, I ended up lying with my head at the foot of the bed because it seemed more "correct") and ground/distract myself with something familiar, I was very glad I did because the experience became less chaotic and intensely aesthetic.

When I finally started to put some musik on, I realized that I was to far gone to manipulate the machine. It was to hard to remember all the little steps and clicks you need to select some decent music and put it on
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I managed OK with the music, but earlier (maybe when I was further gone) I spent what seemed like ages trying to shut down my noisy computer in the other room over an SSH connection from my phone. Because I was worried it was too noisy for the neighbours. I found it horrible to operate the little keys, my fingers felt like they'd been deflated and were just skin wrapped round bone, eeugh. It was a bit like my body had died along with my ego/self-identity.

Really back to where I started 12 hours after dosing. I think I will never reach for this chemical again without a good nights sleep prior and having made all necessary preparations beforehand.
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I have felt noticeably perkier since Saturday morning's adventure. I have been getting through my work more easily and making people laugh without thinking, which is nice! I do think preparations are very wise at this level.

I love it. I actually think higher doses will be more comfortable because it really is an odd state to be in when you realise that you've just dissolved and you don't know what to do about it but feel something must be done. Might be less traumatic to go beyond that and fully forget you were once human.
 
Just wanted to warn people that the vendors in the UK claiming they have this in stock currently are selling bunk stuff, as I found out the hard way. The product looks very similar in consistency but seems to be inactive.

Mods: sorry if this is too close to source discussion, if so please delete. Just thought it was worth warning people for the purposes of harm reduction.
 
OK absolute newbie to dissociatives, had some Methoxetamine for couple of weeks...far too scared to try it!
I am old school and remember when scare stories started to appear about Ket being passed of as E...something I most definitely wanted to avoid.

Having tried most drugs thought I should give at least some sort of dissociative a try....

Well started tonight at 10mg of Methoxetamine, surprised how effected I was. Loss of co-ordination and quite a bit of a stagger! Have been topping up 5mg at a time and have to say I am really enjoying the experience so far.....getting a hell of an urge to have a big dose to feel the real potential, but think I will just stick to low dose to get used to this new type of chemical. A lot more relaxing than I expected and not a care in the world.
However think this is as far as I want to go with this chemical at this time....pretty sure I'm not ready for ego death yet! Not sure what this post is adding to Methoxetamine users, but I just wanted to say at low doses there is defo benefits to be had without becoming stuck to your bed or chair!

Sorry if this post sounds a bit random.....just felt I had to post for other newbies to dissociatives.....plus I am rather above baseline!
 
roganjosh said:
Just wanted to warn people that the vendors in the UK claiming they have this in stock currently are selling bunk stuff, as I found out the hard way. The product looks very similar in consistency but seems to be inactive.

Mods: sorry if this is too close to source discussion, if so please delete. Just thought it was worth warning people for the purposes of harm reduction.
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You are right roganjosh. I feel so foolish and want to apologise to a couple of people who pm'd me regarding my methoxetamine. I've: been ripped off in my greedy desire to get some of this stuff and the positive effects I was getting were purely down to the poppy tea and tramadol. When will I ever learn? :|:o:(
 
I just sniffed 40mg on top of a few drinks, if I could buy this beautiful chemical by the ton I tell you I would hire out a warehouse and employ dwarves to maintain storage conditions.

god it's so good.
 
Yes, the girl is completely nuts!!!

incognition said:
Not an overdose. I bet you can go over a gram without any problems. I did 350, and my body functions were completely ok. I even "died" but i were still sitting properly in my chair when i came back. :) She was intubated because of the sedatives she had to have. The girl must have been completely nuts. Remember what i said about psychotic outbreaks? 8o
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She surely is completely nuts having to swallow 80-100mg of it knowing she'd never had a dissociatives before, ever! Well, she's depressed, LOST & CONFUSED - that explains it....:(
 
She did it ROA, i bet!

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She did take it orally presumably and in my epxerience methoxetamine will kick your ass with that ROA vs snorting.. I did 45mg oral and it was way way more potent than snorting a similar amount, it knocked me for six.

I have no doubt that 100mg oral would m-hole me, absolutely guaranteed. But as you say there are a couple of reports of people taking higher doses without serious issues so you wouldnt think it to be physically problematic or anything at that kind of dose level.

But if she never had a dissociative before and wasnt expecting it, it'd be pretty scary i imagine and she probably just freaked out big time, and i guess Essex mistakenly thought 100mg was a physical overdose and so got panicked into calling 999.
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100mg would sure do m-hole the girl specially if she'd never ever had dissociatives before! & then went nuts by taking/swallowing 100mg the first time... It sure would lift her feelings of depression, would absolutely take her to a different world/dimension but first experience of it (on a 100mg) is totally freaky & no doubt it freaked her big time & panicked essex too. I should know...:(
 
"M-Hole"? Is that like your mother's hole??

Fuck off.

Whatever happened to "entheogenic experience"?

I've been taking K and writing about it for over 6 years, yet never felt the need to use the ridiculous term "K-Hole".
 
^ Please be civil, Jamshyd. I know you take issue with "holing" nomenclature but there are plenty of people who find it useful, even if we can't reach a consensus on its referent.
 
Jamshyd said:
"M-Hole"? Is that like your mother's hole??

Fuck off.

Whatever happened to "entheogenic experience"?

I've been taking K and writing about it for over 6 years, yet never felt the need to use the ridiculous term "K-Hole".
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Cool bro.
 
ikkyu said:
^ Please be civil, Jamshyd. I know you take issue with "holing" nomenclature but there are plenty of people who find it useful, even if we can't reach a consensus on its referent.
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But there is a hole right? I've been told of it's existence by many people but have so far not managed to find it despite extensive researching.
 
It's not just the word "hole" that I have issue with.

It is people's compulsion to create potentially-confusing slang because normal language just isn't cool enough for drugs.

And speaking of confusing, it appears that neither you nor a the person you're replying to even know what a "hole" really is. And neither do I. On the other hand, if you were to ask me if Ketamine produces entheogenic experiences, I can tell you with certainty that it does.

And please don't ask me to be civil as I'd like to think I am one of the most polite people I know on BL. I was not targeting anyone in particular in my post.
 
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ikkyu said:
Some people experience it, others don't. I think I've "holed" but I'm not sure because I'm not clear on what "holing" means.

Related reading: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=300726
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Thanks, will check that out.


Jamshyd said:
It's not just the word "hole" that I have issue with.

It is people's compulsion to create potentially-confusing slang because normal language just isn't cool enough for drugs.

And speaking of confusing, it appears that neither you nor a the person you're replying to even know what a "hole" really is. And neither do I. On the other hand, if you were to ask me if Ketamine produces entheogenic experiences, I can tell you with certainty that it does.

And please don't ask me to be civil as I'd like to think I am one of the most polite people I know on BL. I was not targeting anyone in particular in my post.
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I suspect I haven't holed because I haven't taken enough. This is only a wild stab in the dark but it might be possible that you might not be taking enough either. My buddy has been taking k since he was 11 and claims he needs at least 1 gram to kohl properly. Obviously taking that much doesn't promote HR but it might be the reason why you haven't managed to journey into the hole.

I hear set and setting also makes a difference as well.

EDIT: just to add I definitely know what a hole is, i've spoken to and observed loads of people in the hole. The description when in the hole is pretty much identical from person to person.
 
So true...

ikkyu said:
^ Please be civil, Jamshyd. I know you take issue with "holing" nomenclature but there are plenty of people who find it useful, even if we can't reach a consensus on its referent.
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I 2nd the motion ikkyu... :)
 
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