What should I do?

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

Valium seems to slow it more than klonopin, but its hard telling after only being on it again for 3 days now? I dunno.

I'm not recommending Valium AT ALL. I know how you feel about it and I feel the same. I'm on it currently to taper off 10 years of Klonopin/Xanax and that's all I find it useful for, other than muscle relaxation. I couldn't imagine it useful for anxiety. Just my opinion. I know a good dose of people get relief from it, just not me.

As for sedation of the four (most to least)
1. Valium
2. Klonopin
3. Xanax
4. Ativan

again my opinion from experience.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

I'm not recommending Valium AT ALL. I know how you feel about it and I feel the same. I'm on it currently to taper off 10 years of Klonopin/Xanax and that's all I find it useful for, other than muscle relaxation. I couldn't imagine it useful for anxiety. Just my opinion. I know a good dose of people get relief from it, just not me.

As for sedation of the four (most to least)
1. Valium
2. Klonopin
3. Xanax
4. Ativan

again my opinion from experience.

I remember kind of getting into it with you in another post long ago and I apologize because you seem like a very cool guy. I ran into some ativan 2mg pills so I'm going to see if these work better. I was tapering at my old clinic but since I used h everyday ontop of it I didn't mind dropping to 10mgs a day but after I got stabilized it just fucking suuuuuucked. I have an apt apperently Friday so I'm going to figure this out I'm. Very annoyed with my doctor. I hattteee these 5mg barr dexedrine but its all I have its worked great but lately its been 65mgs a day. Back on topic though I'm going to rule xanax out because it made me moody but then again I can't think of a benzo I've had other than restoril that hasn't made me moody. I just hate these lame options we have in the us...for wds and for proper treatment with whatever it be pain or anxiety. The worse part about the valium is they're 5mg fucking mylans. The worse and its like 25 pills a day that I'm taking it seems and I don't know why any doctor would do this to a patient...I don't ever lie unless its regarding past drug use because when you do that they won't and can't really prescribe you a controlled substance or whatever. Its lame.

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

...I don't ever lie unless its regarding past drug use because when you do that they won't and can't really prescribe you a controlled substance or whatever. Its lame.

Yup, totally agree. Never bring up your past problems with addiction or heavy drug abuse. You won't get accurate treatment. They reject medications or doses that would be the most useful for you by giving you non-addictive crap. I'm not saying everything that's a controlled substance is crap sometimes drugs with abuse potential are needed, even if only a short time. If that makes any sense.

I slipped one appt. and brought up my history of drug abuse and ever since he has looked at me different. I never told him about my addiction problems but he looks at me now as if I was an addict. And I only told him about smoking marijuana, experimenting with hallucinogenics and abusing pain pills on occasion (that was a lie).

By the way, I think your cool to talk with also.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

Yup, totally agree. Never bring up your past problems with addiction or heavy drug abuse. You won't get accurate treatment. They reject medications or doses that would be the most useful for you by giving you non-addictive crap. I'm not saying everything that's a controlled substance is crap sometimes drugs with abuse potential are needed, even if only a short time. If that makes any sense.

I slipped one appt. and brought up my history of drug abuse and ever since he has looked at me different. I never told him about my addiction problems but he looks at me now as if I was an addict. And I only told him about smoking marijuana, experimenting with hallucinogenics and abusing pain pills on occasion (that was a lie).

By the way, I think your cool to talk with also.

my fuck up was letting my doctor know I used e over 200 times or maybe that was ghb. I mentioned I overdosed on ghb and died. He was more upset I led him on for so long being destructive but I have changed and will remain sober aside from weed for now and my prescribed meds. I'm trying the ativan out tomorrow I had noooo idea they were purepac which is fucking good well as long as you like lorazepam like I think I do. Hopefully it works much better. You've been good help. I'm still interested in oxazepam just because of the subtle effects but I dunno. Klonopin or lorazepam and of course temaz at night because I can't get anything like halcion which lasts 2 hours and would be great but temaz keeps me asleep and if I wake up I go back to sleep. How was oxazepam for you? Compared to a longer lasting benzo

 

[BananasAndOranges]

Ok so I got the r 063 scored on the back purepac tabs. They dissolve almost instantly. If anything they do more than valium does in terms of anxiety I just need 3 of the 2mg ones that I currently have. I really liked how I felt and it took away the nausea I get from these dexedrine tbs. Just wanted to update and say they realllllllly do work and veryyyyy fucking well just not so much sedation if any more of a loop. I think klons may be best the 2mg tabs 2 times a day. Does anyone else think 12 pills a day prescribed is too many and currently 19 or 17 depending on days

 

[dokomo]

Ok so I got the r 063 scored on the back purepac tabs. They dissolve almost instantly. If anything they do more than valium does in terms of anxiety I just need 3 of the 2mg ones that I currently have. I really liked how I felt and it took away the nausea I get from these dexedrine tbs. Just wanted to update and say they realllllllly do work and veryyyyy fucking well just not so much sedation if any more of a loop. I think klons may be best the 2mg tabs 2 times a day. Does anyone else think 12 pills a day prescribed is too many and currently 19 or 17 depending on days

You mean 12 2mg lorazepam per day? Yes, that is definitely "too many" in terms of legit medicinal use/value. 10mg/day is considered the maximum medicinal dosing level for lorazepam.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

No 9 dexedrines when he could be perscribing 10mg pills his excuse was just wrote the script and I dropped from 3mgs klonopin and he put me on 15mgs of fucking valium. Its absurd it hurt my stomach and I guess if he doesn't take my offer on what I. Am feeling he's not a good doctor. I had the wooorse stomach problem for days because of the fucker and his pill shit. Apparently he gave some girl liver failure and she sued the company instead of him because he said it'd ruin his insurance.........

 

[BIGsherm7272]

I don't understand how your doctor did not realize that the dose of valium was nowhere near the clonazepam dose you were on........If you had been on it long enough he could have thrown you into Benzo withdrawals and possibly caused a seizure.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

I don't understand how your doctor did not realize that the dose of valium was nowhere near the clonazepam dose you were on........If you had been on it long enough he could have thrown you into Benzo withdrawals and possibly caused a seizure.

no shiiiiit he said 10mgs was too high. Were having a talk Friday. And I'm getting pissed I'm having the worse wd on the l train right now I don't want to pull out a baggy I carry my pills in and get searched