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do you regret starting ecstasy?

No.
Although I have gone through bouts of depression that were not in any way directly linked to Xtc use. Its not like the depressive feeling was so overwhelming that I thought it could be. The sadness and sorrow is directly linked to every day life and it's ups and downs. So whoever blames X for there mood and depressive feeling needs to do research on the possibility of having this disorder prior to any Xtc use. Also, if you do enough investigating there is no conclusive evidence that shows Xtc to be the direct cause of these symptoms.
 
Furthermore people who have used abusively like I and others can eleviate this by taking good sources of anti-oxidants like ALA(Alpha Lipoic Acid), and Ester C(Vitaman C in the form of calcium ascorbate) and others. %-HTP works well to regulate the mood along with Aniracetam and or Piracetam. Some say these supplements can actually repair that magic thats lost when rollong, and when sober.
 
nautilus said:
Cannabis made my grades drop and my gut expand. Alcohol gave me a keg and messed with my mood.

But MDMA was the only drug that actually made a permanent mark on my psyche. I was depersonalized, depressed, and extremely unsure about my life.

This scenario isn't so far fetched if you take MDMA during a part of your life where you are experiencing a great deal of change.
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People need to start taking personal accountability for their actions, instead of blaming a drug or whatever for their failures in life. An old friend of mine who is smarter than anyone I know...graduated at the top of his class and has an accounting degree as well as a 2nd Major, used pot all through college and still does to this day, but you would never know this guy was a burner by looking at him or engaging in a conversation with him.

If you abuse any drug or substance...cigs, beer, pot, coke, heroin, FOOD...ANYTHING, it could have negative affects on your life..but these substances didn't force their way down your throat or up your nose.
 
I don't regret it, it's like a shared secret world that only some of us encounter and that changes us profoundly.
 
firstmoment said:
nahhh anyone who says they would go in time and never had taken mdma, obviously abused it. its a beautiful chemical that (i believe) if used properly can only generate good things in your life. im with splinter on this. saying you feel like you never would have tried it is excessive. saying you shouldnt have abused it is probably what most of us here would say.

though i will admit 10 years ago accurate information about X was probably a less likely to be going around.
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Yea I agree that he most likely abused it but that's not what splinter is saying and my issue is about splinters own use. From previous posts splinter drops like 4 one night then another 4 the next night then another 4 the following week, I was getting at him because he's getting at someone else for reconsidering mdma use if they had a time machine due to their past abuse when he's abusing mdma himself in present day.
 
^ Irrelevant. What are you talking about?

Back to my case, this guys pretty much doggin on E cause he fucked himself up or "thinks" he fucked himself up(but probably just has depression) and now he blames E for his shitty life and wishes he could go back.

The differences with me is that ecstasy is most definiately almost for sure the greatest thing that ever happen to me or anyone else for even that matter. Im not gonna end up 40 with no wife and a manager job at McDonalds. not everyone shares some drug downturn lifestlye like an ABC afterschool special.

shit. you guys watch too much tv.

Ive fucked myself up hundreds of times and some times were REAL FUCKIN bad...horrible comedowns, ruined friendships, cheating whores, and lost money. Yeh thats me your old punchin bag mastersplinter alright? Ive hit some lows indeed. But guess what, it aint cause of the ecstasy, thats just how life gose sometimes.

I remember the good times I had and I dont blame any drug for anything. I made all my choices with a budwiser in hand and a glowstick tapped to my ballcap. I know what I is doing...and so did the OP.

Sorry to hear you had a shitty run...
 
^ It can certainly be the drug that messed his life up, these are chemicals that alters brain states. To say he's a loser is not needed and the fact that you use it just as bad as he did does not give you the right to insult him. Respect his decision and opinion, if he feels that ecstasy screwed a large part of his life I can certainly see that because this isn't something recreational with no dangerous effects. People can suffer multitude of symptoms from taking ecstasy that can hinder them for life.

Haven't you heard of stories of college kids who take meth and end up dying after their first time? Granted it's probably due to lack of education of the drug itself(Lazyscience even admitted not having the proper knowledge when he started on the drug), but that just proves my point there are too many variables in life to just say it's always the users fault.
 
back in like.. 99. i was mr. OMG ECSTASY IS THE BESTEST THING EVER... I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MY PARENTS WILL TAKE IT AT CHRISTMAS DINNER. all of the fun parties that led up to a certain point were GREAT *but* meth became popular too, and I began using meth, E and G together.... FUN FUN FUN YES... but i seriously had NO defense against crystal meth, which kept me on this epic, 5 year, multi city, quest. I don't want to say that E or other "club drugs" were gateway drugs, however, often, the times i tried meth, g, or K were times when E couldn't be found. and of course.. I LIKED THEM. especially Meth. omg . it was the center of my life through most of my 20's, and while i no longer use it, I do have lasting consequences (hiv, and extreme mood disorders) from such long term, heavy use, of meth. So just be mindful when you're partying about what *could* be next, and think a bit about what you honestly want to try and what not. You kids dig?
Hope so :)
 
Although you can never take a peek at what your life would have been like had you never used MDMA, I am optimistic I am better off having taking the drug. I only use it 2-6 times a year, it's not for everybody, but I stand by my decision.
 
warmachine22 said:
No.
Although I have gone through bouts of depression that were not in any way directly linked to Xtc use. Its not like the depressive feeling was so overwhelming that I thought it could be. The sadness and sorrow is directly linked to every day life and it's ups and downs. So whoever blames X for there mood and depressive feeling needs to do research on the possibility of having this disorder prior to any Xtc use. Also, if you do enough investigating there is no conclusive evidence that shows Xtc to be the direct cause of these symptoms.
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thats not true in all cases. before i started abusing X, i never had any form of depression. i mean yes everyone gets depressed about things every now and then but not like the depression i live with now. the seratonin receptors get damaged if you abuse the drug and fuck with your seratonin output how would that not be related to your depression?
 
MasterSplinter said:
^ Irrelevant. What are you talking about?

Back to my case, this guys pretty much doggin on E cause he fucked himself up or "thinks" he fucked himself up(but probably just has depression) and now he blames E for his shitty life and wishes he could go back.

The differences with me is that ecstasy is most definiately almost for sure the greatest thing that ever happen to me or anyone else for even that matter. Im not gonna end up 40 with no wife and a manager job at McDonalds. not everyone shares some drug downturn lifestlye like an ABC afterschool special.

shit. you guys watch too much tv.

Ive fucked myself up hundreds of times and some times were REAL FUCKIN bad...horrible comedowns, ruined friendships, cheating whores, and lost money. Yeh thats me your old punchin bag mastersplinter alright? Ive hit some lows indeed. But guess what, it aint cause of the ecstasy, thats just how life gose sometimes.

I remember the good times I had and I dont blame any drug for anything. I made all my choices with a budwiser in hand and a glowstick tapped to my ballcap. I know what I is doing...and so did the OP.

Sorry to hear you had a shitty run...
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if what they are saying is true and you really take X that much, it sounds like you just haven't hit bottom yet and are in denial. i went through that shit too. don't worry one day you will realize that you are fucking your body up by abusing it. either that or you will be permanently fuck your mind up.
 
no. its been nearly a decade. had times of abuse and 3 +1 year long breaks from it. if i was gonna fuck myself up i'd have done it by now so i'm not really worried by that possibility.
 
its really sad to me that this thread even exists. people really should learn to educate themselves about what they put into their bodies. I've been rolling for 3 years now and regret has never even crossed my mind.
 
pnut3844 said:
if what they are saying is true and you really take X that much, it sounds like you just haven't hit bottom yet and are in denial. i went through that shit too. don't worry one day you will realize that you are fucking your body up by abusing it. either that or you will be permanently fuck your mind up.
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If what you say is true then first case of Bud Lights on me, but since Ive already hit what was lower than rock bottom at one point in my life I dont see how it could get any worse even again....especially now how im so responsible then I was before.

I dont understand how to OP could be so reckless and abuse the shit out of a drug like there were no consequences and then sware it off like the plague. Thats just hypocracy.

Ecstasy doesnt cause my problems. I, Mastersplinter, cause my problems. I aint got no drugs to blame and no need to play that game. In this town I got my own hall of fame and when people tell me ecstasy is lame I look at them and think there insane.

Moral is,

If you abuse E,
-Dont whine when the darkside comes callin
-Stop lookin at all the bad times and start rememberin the good ones.
-take a good egsamination of your own life so you can analyze how awesome it really is.
-Stop blaming the drugs you chose to take them
-Go get a girlfriend and find a real job

PEACE
-Splinter
 
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