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What can i use to help me get to sleep?

TokinDerrick said:
what do you mean by high?

like just a general all around good feeling? or something that can actually be called a "high"?

because I could use something that has an all around good feeling. I got enough stuff for the "high" part.
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Each person will think differentley .
But I would say it's just an all around good feeling .
What theanine does is increase brain waves , etc.

To be honest I don't know much about how it works on the brain but apparentley it's good for it.

Look it up online . I'm sure there's lots of info .
 
I bought some milk today (the "fattest" one). I'll try one lukewarm glass tonight and see what it does (or does not) for sleep.
 
^ So it gave me nightmares... I'm gonna try again tonight, for the sake of the experience.
 
Im tempted to try Melatonin because a few people have recommended it. Any recommended brands or suppliers for it?

I already use 5-htp, would it be a bad idea to use Melatonin amd 5-htp at the same time?
 
I just read in a book that 5-htp will metabolize into both seretonin and via another step or two to melatonin. (I had previously said in another post that I thought this did not happen but I appear to have been wrong)

Taking both 5-HTP and Melatonin, you may not see much of a difference.
Regarding melatonin however, I've seen no difference in any brand i've tried. I go for whats cheapest. Dosage wise, less is more. There's no need to take more than 1-3 mg. they sell some 'extra strength' melatonin in 5 and 10mg doses. Its BS. There isn't 'extra strength' when it comes to melatonin. Its plenty effective in doses even down to 300micrograms.

There should be no complications with taking both 5-HTP and melatonin.Just don't over do it with either. Take a regular dose of 5-HTP and a low/regular dose of melatonin (300mcg - 3mg)
 
Posted this in another thread but thought it might help :)...

GBL (and I'm guessing GHB) works wonders for me, much better than benzos IMHO. Couple of mls and you'll be asleep in 20 mins top! Be careful though G is pretty addictive stuff.

And yes milk does weirdly work! Hot milk with a splash of vodka/brandy etc. Is what my nan swears by haha. Also hot chocolate/ovaltine/horlicks works pretty well
 
try sedating anti-histamines first... (alimenazine, doxylamine....) then if that doesn't work go to a doc and get some Zolpidem or zopiclone (i prefer zolpidem)... if they don't work, you'll need to convince your doc that you really need a hypnotic benzo (Loprazolam, Temazzepam, Lormetazepm....) but this should be the last rcourse
 
Man, i took 0,5mg xanax after tweaking on quality speed.After 20minutes i was pwned by it.I sleeped like a baby, woke up at 11 o clock at the morning(or day to some people :)

Suggestin this stuff to ya dood.
And use it - Dont abuse it, good thing that one of a bluelighters told me that you can die from withdrawal...Thank good that bluelight is such an amazing community :)
 
phatass said:
try sedating anti-histamines first... (alimenazine, doxylamine....) then if that doesn't work go to a doc and get some Zolpidem or zopiclone (i prefer zolpidem)... if they don't work, you'll need to convince your doc that you really need a hypnotic benzo (Loprazolam, Temazzepam, Lormetazepm....) but this should be the last rcourse
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like I said, anticholinergic (i.e. sedating anti-histamine) is pretty good for sleep but side effects are worse than you'd expect, to me benadryl (for instance) feels like a poison that happens to put me to sleep, and at 12+ pills (or as low as 8 ) I sometimes get hallucinations of my own dying body, i.e. blood flowing out ur nails, body hair turning to spider legs, layers of skin peeling or blood-staining a fabric just by touching it, basically if you take a lot and you have periods of lucidity, you'll notice its basically like being in a horror movie and nightmare that you're too sedated to care about or even realize. says something about lower doses, as opposed to benzos which reduce those kinds of visuals rather than increase.
Z-drugs (ive tried and abused zopiclone) to me are like a combination of antichilergenics and benzos, sedation of benzos, dementia of benadryl, and visuals like a softened benadryl trip.
Has zolpidem not worked for someone here? To me, a high dose with a low enough tolerance will ensure passing out. z-drugs for getting to sleep, benzos for being asleep the whole night. Benadryl doesnt knock me out the same way at high doses, it feels like my nightmares and other dreams are merging with reality, and if I do pass out, its much less peaceful and clean than benzos.
I've seen two of your posts and I like them so far. im sure its the same the other way around buddy.
 
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"Has Zopliclone not worked for people here"
Oooo Me, Me!! oOO

I had a script for Ambien and I'd say it was better than nothing, but it didn't do much for me. Barely helped me fall asleep and didn't help me staying asleep. A 20mg dose failed to knock me out. I quit after that, figured it wasn't worth it if I had to take 3 or more pills just to sleep.

Currently .25mg Klonopin + 50mg trazadone is working as well as anything has for me;

weed helped/helps me as well as anything really. weed + low dose benzo is a pretty sure shot at getting some sleep.
 
PoppyLlama said:
ok well you have no reason to insult me, i dont combine the two drugs by myself it was doctor issued so the dosages were determined by a professional health care provider.
you are correct though anyone who would try that combination on their own without predetermined dosages and measurements IS stupid due to the rrisk of death involved in administering the two chemicals.
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You think he has fentanyl lying around his house? Lol wtf are you smoking buddy :/
He said legal things. Not a large variety of exotic narcotics.Of course, you're probably kidding.

I'd say meletonin+ valarian will probably work. because anti-histamines IMO, will make you feel like shit.
 
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oh well as far as legal.. ugh Tylenol PM, theres some good night time teas that help you fall asleep.. check a natural path store, they have lots of great legal and natural sleeping aids, ranging from teas to pills, etc.
 
Shell out for a doctors visit and get a script for Ambien. It shouldn't be too expensive and it's pretty legit to tell a doctor that you have sleeping problems and you want something to help. I actually did just this a couple weeks ago. To me Ambien is the best script sleep aid that I have tried. It makes you sleepy, but pleasantly, not groggy, and it's gone by the morning and leaves you feeling fine. It's also quite cheap.

If you don't want to deal with a doctor, I like L-theanine. Someone else mentioned it as well. Melatonin and Valarian and Kava Kava are other natural herbs that you can get many places. I find that for most herbs to be effective you need to keep your body generally cleaner than most do normally. If you eat a lot of heavy foods and take many other drugs, herbs are just really not going to compete with those things in your body. But if your diet is good and simple and you have a generally clean head, herbs can be very effective.
 
mgrady3 said:
"Has Zopliclone not worked for people here"
Oooo Me, Me!! oOO

I had a script for Ambien and I'd say it was better than nothing, but it didn't do much for me. Barely helped me fall asleep and didn't help me staying asleep. A 20mg dose failed to knock me out. I quit after that, figured it wasn't worth it if I had to take 3 or more pills just to sleep.

Currently .25mg Klonopin + 50mg trazadone is working as well as anything has for me;

weed helped/helps me as well as anything really. weed + low dose benzo is a pretty sure shot at getting some sleep.
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weed keeps me from going to sleep but it used to make me sleepy. of course weed is a strange drug since the proportions of thc to other chemicals varies, but it always gets me high and/ or stoned, then hungry and sleepy but no sleep, just half-sleep half-wake at best unless its very little. Good for you though.
 
Seroquil is good. How about trying Ambien CR? For stuff in stores, buy some Benadryl.
 
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