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anonymous777

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Hey bluelighters, I would like to share my story just to get some feedback as well as to serve as guidance for other new users.

My old friends were all getting into beans, and before I had researched well enough I tried it with them. Like every other drug we have tried, it has to be in excess. My first night rolling I ate 4 pills. Rolled my ass off Neeless to say, I fell in love but had an awful comedown and didn't sleep untill the next night.

4 weeks later I roll again, 4 pills. Rolled for a little while, then went into an awful panic about 3 hours after dropping, felt like I was going to die. Felt like I couldn't remember do breath and had to do it consciously. DIdn't sleep untill the next night again. (possibly pipes)

4 weeks later roll again, 4 pills. Rolled my ass off, amazing night. Awful comedown

2 Weeks later. Take 2 pills and go out. I didn't feel anything, then 3 hours after dropping I fell into this dreadful mode where I felt like I was seriously going to die. I had myself convinced I had a brain hemorrage. I tured into an extremely paranoid hypochondriac for a good 12 hours. Almost took myself to the hospital. (almost positive pipes)

After reading about EVERY thread on bluelight, I now understand all the things I've been doing wrong. (Too high dose, rolls too close, NOT TESTING PILLS) I also have slight HPPD (in my opinion), and have noticed a definite slow down in my cognitive function.

It's been a month now, and the anxiety and depression has subsided quite a bit.

My question is: How long should I wait to roll again? I have put myself on a strict break for no less than 6 months, but is this going to be enough? After a 6 month break should I be able to roll off a normal dose (100-200mg)? Or have I fuxxored up my tolerance too badly? I respect this drug greatly now, and will be disciplined enough to do what it takes to use it responsibly. I will never use again without testing.

Also: My best friends are now abusing the shit out of this drug, using up to 1g MDMA per weekend. It's completely depressing, because I have had to explain to them the dangers and they will not listen. I have had to cut them out of my life because they don't want to listen to why I don't condone their use. How can I help my friends?


TLDR: Binged a small bit. Is 6 months enough to get tolerance back. How do I help friends that are abusing.

THanks, peace and love.
 
You haven't even rolled that often.. and you put a month in between half your rolls. and by the looks of it you are getting pipes at least half the time. Meaning your serotonin might not of even been depleted on those occasion.
You definitely would have felt those two pills on the "2 weeks later" time even from taking 4 pills previously. You must be getting bunk pills. You need to get a test kit or a more reliable source of e/MDMA.
 
From rolling that little of times, with those breaks, I don't think you should be having any depression or anxiety at all... unless you're getting bunk pills which can cause depression and anxiety..
 
anonymous777 said:
Do pipes have any effects on MDMA tolerance?
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I would say no as I have heard nothing of the sort. There are many threads discussing the contents of possible pipes but pipes are completely different from MDMA, just some can actually stimulate someone similar to MDMA and can confuse people into thinking they are rolling (I would say if you've tried real MDMA you would know the difference for sure). Most pipes I've heard of though just make you feel sick/depressed/anxious.
 
1g a weekend? Holy shit, even though they're not listening to you don't give up on them!

Edit: And yes, you could be getting a lot of pipes. You seem to be buying pills a lot (and your friends), so I'd recommend splitting a test kit between all of you. You can do 150+ tests for ~$60 with the complete kit, which can test more than just MDMA. It'll pay for itself in NO time, and trust me, you'll feel better about yourself by knowing what you're eating.
 
Sounds like you were often eating pipes and methbombs :/ Seriously, test your pills. And keep at your friends if you want them to stay healthy.
 
You wont have to wait any time to roll off of 120mgs of MDMA, which is my "normal" dose (200mgs is a high dose of good MDMA, which would get most people fucking floored assuming they take breaks). Based off what you have told us here, I am inclined to believe you have no significant raise of tolerance at all. You have only rolled 4 times in 3.5 months, which isn't bad at all (though I wouldn't roll that frequently). You have quite simply been getting bad pills. It takes a hell of a lot of abuse to have a significant tolerance raises (I'm talking about every weekend, maybe multiple times a weekend for years).

Pretty much, if you test your MDMA and make sure it is positive for MDMA, then drop a 120mg dose, you should have no problem rolling at all. It could be cut to shit, but even then at 120mgs you will still feel something.
 
don't ever take 4 pills again that often, you could have rolled just as hard off 2 if you would have started with that many
 
yea, theres something wrong with what you were taking. i roll about once a week, but i use pure powdered molly(i know this cuz i test it every time) and ive never had those kind of issues
 
K-Dazed said:
You wont have to wait any time to roll off of 120mgs of MDMA, which is my "normal" dose (200mgs is a high dose of good MDMA, which would get most people fucking floored assuming they take breaks). Based off what you have told us here, I am inclined to believe you have no significant raise of tolerance at all. You have only rolled 4 times in 3.5 months, which isn't bad at all (though I wouldn't roll that frequently). You have quite simply been getting bad pills. It takes a hell of a lot of abuse to have a significant tolerance raises (I'm talking about every weekend, maybe multiple times a weekend for years).

Pretty much, if you test your MDMA and make sure it is positive for MDMA, then drop a 120mg dose, you should have no problem rolling at all. It could be cut to shit, but even then at 120mgs you will still feel something.
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This is a really badly worded post and quite misleading.

First of all if the person has been suffering from bad comedowns then YES they should wait as long as possible before redosing. Secondly if your MDMA is 'cut to shit' you dont know what the cut is and could be a dangerous adulterant.

You really should tell people to take anything that may be adulterated.
 
No Consequence said:
I would say no as I have heard nothing of the sort. There are many threads discussing the contents of possible pipes but pipes are completely different from MDMA, just some can actually stimulate someone similar to MDMA and can confuse people into thinking they are rolling (I would say if you've tried real MDMA you would know the difference for sure). Most pipes I've heard of though just make you feel sick/depressed/anxious.
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I am not 100% sure on this, but pipes are actually a little similar in the way they work. Like MDMA, they also work on the seratonin system, but they also tend to effect some of the more 'trippy' 5HTP receptors (similar to LSD). I don't think pipes would give you any kind of tolerance to MDMA, but I think it would incorrect to say they are completely different.
 
levictus said:
I am not 100% sure on this, but pipes are actually a little similar in the way they work. Like MDMA, they also work on the seratonin system, but they also tend to effect some of the more 'trippy' 5HTP receptors (similar to LSD). I don't think pipes would give you any kind of tolerance to MDMA, but I think it would incorrect to say they are completely different.
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I think you're focusing a little too much on my choice of words (completely) instead of the overall message i was trying to give.
 
Don't worry you have barley over done it, and you were obv getting meth bombs and pipes c:. I mean rolling is huge atm in florida for some reason, everyone I know is rolling face all the time (so bad!) (I live in south florida). Don't worry you'll be just fine c:
 
Bearlove said:
This is a really badly worded post and quite misleading.

First of all if the person has been suffering from bad comedowns then YES they should wait as long as possible before redosing. Secondly if your MDMA is 'cut to shit' you dont know what the cut is and could be a dangerous adulterant.

You really should tell people to take anything that may be adulterated.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I made sure to mention to test that the substance they have has tested positive for MDMA (MDx). Generally, that's all you can really do - there's no way to know how much it is adulterated unless you have access to a laboratory and a GC-MS or LC-MS, which I'm fairly certain 99.9% of the population of people who take E don't have access to.

Besides, my "cut to shit" scenario was only a hypothetical situation. I understand my post came off as unclear, but I'd never want anyone to hurt themselves when digesting a substance.
 
you got shitty pills dude. although socal sucks for a lot of drugs, one thing i love about it is i always get good clean E pills.
 
K-Dazed said:

I understand where you're coming from, but I made sure to mention to test that the substance they have has tested positive for MDMA (MDx). Generally, that's all you can really do - there's no way to know how much it is adulterated unless you have access to a laboratory and a GC-MS or LC-MS, which I'm fairly certain 99.9% of the population of people who take E don't have access to.

Besides, my "cut to shit" scenario was only a hypothetical situation. I understand my post came off as unclear, but I'd never want anyone to hurt themselves when digesting a substance.
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If I use the test kit from dancesafe does that mean that I can only test to see that there is MDMA and not how much of it?
 
crunchymilk said:
If I use the test kit from dancesafe does that mean that I can only test to see that there is MDMA and not how much of it?
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This is correct. If it does contain MDMA, you also can't tell whether it's MDMA + something else; the reagents don't detect mixes for the most part. Sometimes you can gauge the relative strength by the speed of the reaction, but since the reagent reacts to minuscule amounts of MDMA anyway this isn't terribly reliable...if you have an extremely slow reaction, it's likely there isn't much MDMA in there at all, but a fast reaction doesn't necessarily tell you there's a lot of MDMA.

In any case, knowing that there's MDMA present at all is a huge benefit, since if it's present at all it's likely to be present in decent amounts. A testing kit basically gives you the benefit of screening out an entire bracket of bunk pills being passed off by people who don't have the means to obtain MDMA.
 
RGB said:
This is correct. If it does contain MDMA, you also can't tell whether it's MDMA + something else; the reagents don't detect mixes for the most part. Sometimes you can gauge the relative strength by the speed of the reaction, but since the reagent reacts to minuscule amounts of MDMA anyway this isn't terribly reliable...if you have an extremely slow reaction, it's likely there isn't much MDMA in there at all, but a fast reaction doesn't necessarily tell you there's a lot of MDMA.

In any case, knowing that there's MDMA present at all is a huge benefit, since if it's present at all it's likely to be present in decent amounts. A testing kit basically gives you the benefit of screening out an entire bracket of bunk pills being passed off by people who don't have the means to obtain MDMA.
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ty :).
 
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