Sweet2TheBeat
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ok guys done 500mg of 5-iai 2nite...all i have 2 say it just made me feel real nice happy thats it lol
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Sweet2TheBeat
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Its pure dung lmfao!
Sweet2TheBeat
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close this 5-iai thread please because this stuff is pure crap
k.kat
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what was you ROA & did you take it all at once?
Jesusgreen
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For those that are disappointed with this and wondering why, I think the problem is the ratio between the receptors it has an effect on.
MDMA doesn't just release huge amounts of serotonin, but there's also a large dopamine release, and a little norepinephrine, I suspect MDAI is lacking in the dopamine department if people are finding it lacks some of the punch of MDMA. Just because it "fully substitutes" for MDMA in rats doesn't mean it has a similar effect, many chemicals that are nothing like the original chemical often "fully substitute" for them, just because similar receptors are affected.
MDMA, MMAI, 5-IAI, Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone and various others are all triple releasers/uptake inhibitors, but if you compare their effects, they are all vastly different.
This might be better at higher doses but in my opinion, don't expect much from it, if you want to give it a try, go ahead, but don't get your hopes up.
MDMA doesn't just release huge amounts of serotonin, but there's also a large dopamine release, and a little norepinephrine, I suspect MDAI is lacking in the dopamine department if people are finding it lacks some of the punch of MDMA. Just because it "fully substitutes" for MDMA in rats doesn't mean it has a similar effect, many chemicals that are nothing like the original chemical often "fully substitute" for them, just because similar receptors are affected.
MDMA, MMAI, 5-IAI, Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone and various others are all triple releasers/uptake inhibitors, but if you compare their effects, they are all vastly different.
This might be better at higher doses but in my opinion, don't expect much from it, if you want to give it a try, go ahead, but don't get your hopes up.
love_sex_desire
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^Doesn't MDAI simply act on serotonin, with little to no effect on dopamine and norepinephrine?
What are the receptor affinities for 5-IAI compared to MDMA anyways?
It was touted as a serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine releaser with similar ratios to MDMA, and I wonder how accurate those claims are, but it was also touted as a non-neurotoxic substitute for MDMA which pretty much indicated it wouldn't be anything spectacular. Non-neurotoxic MDMA replacements I have come to associate with weak chems such as MDAI, but why was this one hyped so much?
What are the receptor affinities for 5-IAI compared to MDMA anyways?
It was touted as a serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine releaser with similar ratios to MDMA, and I wonder how accurate those claims are, but it was also touted as a non-neurotoxic substitute for MDMA which pretty much indicated it wouldn't be anything spectacular. Non-neurotoxic MDMA replacements I have come to associate with weak chems such as MDAI, but why was this one hyped so much?
Jesusgreen
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Yeah I'm not sure why I listed MDAI there, removed it now though.
If the ratios *are* similar as suggested, then I imagine the lack of neurotoxicity is due to it being a lot less potent than MDMA, so I imagine much higher doses would be needed. That's speculation though.
If the ratios *are* similar as suggested, then I imagine the lack of neurotoxicity is due to it being a lot less potent than MDMA, so I imagine much higher doses would be needed. That's speculation though.
Ben So Furry
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Don't think I need to put together a TR as I don't really have a lot more to say that can't be summed up in a few sentences here:
Plugged 400mg at around 7.30 in the evening within an hour I was feeling warm and a tiny bit 'messy'. Nothing I would consider nice or worthwhile. During that time I felt a slight pain or tightening of muscles in my hip area and around my groin. For the next few hours I was feeling nice, tingly, warm like something epic was about to happen but never did. I felt like I was drunk but clear headed, I was wobbly on my feet.
It tapered off over the next few hours so far it has been exactly how people in this thread have mentioned but here's the interesting part for me as I've not seen this mentioned yet.
As the 'effects' left me I was left feeling withdrawn and down. Not depressed or out of it but like I couldn't be bothered talking or getting involved in anything.
That night I had disturbed sleep and I got up the following morning still feeling a bit withdrawn and slightly agitated. Then again I suffered another night of not sleeping well and getting up feeling down.
As the day has gone on I have felt much more like myself and hope to sleep well tonight.
Plugged 400mg at around 7.30 in the evening within an hour I was feeling warm and a tiny bit 'messy'. Nothing I would consider nice or worthwhile. During that time I felt a slight pain or tightening of muscles in my hip area and around my groin. For the next few hours I was feeling nice, tingly, warm like something epic was about to happen but never did. I felt like I was drunk but clear headed, I was wobbly on my feet.
It tapered off over the next few hours so far it has been exactly how people in this thread have mentioned but here's the interesting part for me as I've not seen this mentioned yet.
As the 'effects' left me I was left feeling withdrawn and down. Not depressed or out of it but like I couldn't be bothered talking or getting involved in anything.
That night I had disturbed sleep and I got up the following morning still feeling a bit withdrawn and slightly agitated. Then again I suffered another night of not sleeping well and getting up feeling down.
As the day has gone on I have felt much more like myself and hope to sleep well tonight.
Well i tried my 500mg sample last night, tan powder as has been described. Allergy test followed two hours later by 250 mg bombed to no noticeable effect. An hour later took the other 250 after which I noticed a very slight warm fuzzy feeling, no mood lift. no stimulation, infact I was hungry and tired throughout.
After a couple of hours decided it wasn't going anywhere so went out to pick up some beers and food. Strange thing was when i got outside I did notice slight perceptual changes, vision was really clear and colours seemed brighter but nothing very exciting.
When I got the supermarket everything seemed weird in a way I can't really describe, sort of dreamlike, I was hit with a wave of paranoia, felt like everbody was looking at me and was sure I was going to bump into someone I knew and they would think I was fucked up even though I really wasn't at all.
Anyway was really glad to get back home and crack a beer, which did seem to add something to the effect, definately felt like I was a bit happier than just a one beer buzz.
After a couple more beers the alcohol just overpowered whatever slight effect there was from the 5-iai. Had no trouble eating or sleeping that night either.
So in conclusion 5-iai does seem to have some kind of effect but maybe needs a bigger dose, but I won't be sampling again. Glad I didn't pay for it.
After a couple of hours decided it wasn't going anywhere so went out to pick up some beers and food. Strange thing was when i got outside I did notice slight perceptual changes, vision was really clear and colours seemed brighter but nothing very exciting.
When I got the supermarket everything seemed weird in a way I can't really describe, sort of dreamlike, I was hit with a wave of paranoia, felt like everbody was looking at me and was sure I was going to bump into someone I knew and they would think I was fucked up even though I really wasn't at all.
Anyway was really glad to get back home and crack a beer, which did seem to add something to the effect, definately felt like I was a bit happier than just a one beer buzz.
After a couple more beers the alcohol just overpowered whatever slight effect there was from the 5-iai. Had no trouble eating or sleeping that night either.
So in conclusion 5-iai does seem to have some kind of effect but maybe needs a bigger dose, but I won't be sampling again. Glad I didn't pay for it.
coast
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Here is my extensive trip report.
I had been looking forward to his and felt full of energy, had a good nights sleep night before.
Plugged the whole 500mg sample, skin felt a bit tingly 30 minutes later, it made me feel very tired, laid down on the sofa and woke up 6 hours later, went to bed. Slept a few more hours.
Feel pretty normal today, a bit washed out but can eat and function normally.
The end.
I had been looking forward to his and felt full of energy, had a good nights sleep night before.
Plugged the whole 500mg sample, skin felt a bit tingly 30 minutes later, it made me feel very tired, laid down on the sofa and woke up 6 hours later, went to bed. Slept a few more hours.
Feel pretty normal today, a bit washed out but can eat and function normally.
The end.
k.kat
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Mullered
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Glad I wasnt able to get a sample :D
coast
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Your self discipline is good, I did not think you would be able to resist trying it this weekend.
It did not disolve very well in water, but nor did aMT freebase and that worked well plugged.
People are saying it looked like MDAI, I don't know I never bought any as i prefer a stronger hit.
k.kat
Bluelighter
No its not really cos i ended up on ket (again) even though i said i wouldnt,lol
i only got mdai as free sample too so glad i didnt pay for it & wouldnt as i like stronger hits too,
oh my mdai was white
Anyway, i'm gonna reorder this stuff, at 500mg it was a pretty decent high, altough too sedating also a bit boring, but with some added 2CD, GBL, ketamine and etizolam things were starting to get nice, only was missing energy so i needed a tab of dex on that and it would have been pure bliss.
I looked completely normal on it, unlike methylone or mdma wich both are a big no to do at home when my parents could see me in the morning.
I looked completely normal on it, unlike methylone or mdma wich both are a big no to do at home when my parents could see me in the morning.
love_sex_desire
Bluelighter
^ have you mixed 2C-D, GBL, ketamine and etizolam without 5-IAI to know whether or not the 5-IAI added anything to the experience? I would think any hint of the 5-IAI would be overpowered with so many chems mixed. I'm interested in f 5-IAi has any use in combinations. Seems useless on its own.
Yeah, 5-IAI in higher doses is like mdai with stimulation youll feel good but are inclined to go lay on the cough as there isnt enough stimulation, on its own pretty boring but in that combo it was pure win.
Junkie-Wino-Creep
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This bee has been very interested in 5-IAI for quite some time now, interested enough to come out of lurking...
Some bee's mentioned they've seen vendors offering it up in ranges from $75 - $100. Too good to be true is the most likely story, would like to hear about any confirmations from anyone who's previously scouted.
EDIT: Not source grab FFS, only information of it making it this way in pure form.
Some bee's mentioned they've seen vendors offering it up in ranges from $75 - $100. Too good to be true is the most likely story, would like to hear about any confirmations from anyone who's previously scouted.
EDIT: Not source grab FFS, only information of it making it this way in pure form.
So here's mine. I took 400mg last night (swallowed) with some food at 6pm. Took a while to come up but by around 8:30 I was feeling pretty good - colours bright and vivid and vision was extremely clear, vaguely euphoric, very chatty, mentally a bit dazed, walking felt like I on marshmellows, music was great, stimulated but in a strange yawny sort of way. And there I stayed until around midnight. I rated that as a 5 or 6/10 coz it was nice but didn't really get to where I wanted to go.
At around midnight I felt that I was yawning so much I must be tired, and was actually feeling quite withdrawn and quiet by that point so went to bed. But I couldn't sleep until around 5am. Overall got hardly any sleep. Today has been interesting; still feel really quite wasted and agitated and vision isn't back to normal yet. Also feel a bit sick/burpy. I don't really like this as the comedown is *way* out of proportion to the comeup. I've since had a few hours sleep but it hasn't helped much. So on those grounds I don't think I'll be taking it again.
At around midnight I felt that I was yawning so much I must be tired, and was actually feeling quite withdrawn and quiet by that point so went to bed. But I couldn't sleep until around 5am. Overall got hardly any sleep. Today has been interesting; still feel really quite wasted and agitated and vision isn't back to normal yet. Also feel a bit sick/burpy. I don't really like this as the comedown is *way* out of proportion to the comeup. I've since had a few hours sleep but it hasn't helped much. So on those grounds I don't think I'll be taking it again.
Ben So Furry
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This sound the same as my experience, I really felt agitated, down and withdrawn after the experience or lack of it. Also though I didn't feel stimulated, in fact I felt very tired / worn out but just could not sleep for any period of time and if I did I couldn't determine that I had slept. Last night was better but I haven't had a decent nights sleep to catch up in three nights since. Just drifting in and out of a light slumber.