Bupe
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Not at the state level, federally they would all be illegal if intended/used for human consumption.
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[Mega]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion
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Not at the state level, federally they would all be illegal if intended/used for human consumption.
Brucemeister
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Not all are illegal in any state. I just recieved an email from my suppllier that said they had a much anticipated release of a new jwh-4 I think they called it, or for you scientists out there, ((4-methoxyphenyl)(1-pentyl-1H-indol-3-yl)methanone). They indicated that it is legal in ALL states.
Does anyone know anything at all about the new one?
Does anyone know anything at all about the new one?
Chainer
Bluelighter
No, but then again, good luck getting away from a police officer holding a bag of white.
Or smoking some white/plant that looks like weed.
Haven't heard a word about JWH-04 other than what you just posted. There are a ton out there, some good, some meh.
villian
Bluelighter
Did maybe 150mg of 073 and 50mg of 250 in a 72 hour period (the majority was oral doses), woke up in the middle of the night with severe kidney pain. The pain went away after 20 minutes or so.
I don't know that the JWH caused this, but I've never had pain like that in my kidneys before.
The 073 I have is kinda orangish and the 250 is off-white and really crystally
Again I don't know that the JWH caused this but I thought I'd put the info out there
I'm trying not to dose this stuff anymore then once a week now...I just went a bit overboard when it came in the mail
Hope everyone has a good Labor Day weekend!
I don't know that the JWH caused this, but I've never had pain like that in my kidneys before.
The 073 I have is kinda orangish and the 250 is off-white and really crystally
Again I don't know that the JWH caused this but I thought I'd put the info out there
I'm trying not to dose this stuff anymore then once a week now...I just went a bit overboard when it came in the mail
Hope everyone has a good Labor Day weekend!
OXYz
Greenlighter
I've had JWH-018 and JWH-073 in their pure forms before. (both from reputable vendors).
They definently work but as far as mimicking MJ i dunno. They have more of a harsh almost psychedelic edge to them than the green. Even the strongest strains of good sticky feel relaxing and natural. These synthetic cannaboids brought on a high anxiety somewhat psychedelic experiece for me. I vaped them btw.
So all in all. Yea they work, but are different than MJ in they're own right.
They definently work but as far as mimicking MJ i dunno. They have more of a harsh almost psychedelic edge to them than the green. Even the strongest strains of good sticky feel relaxing and natural. These synthetic cannaboids brought on a high anxiety somewhat psychedelic experiece for me. I vaped them btw.
So all in all. Yea they work, but are different than MJ in they're own right.
Chainer
Bluelighter
a mix of 018 and 250 is really, really fun. closest mimic to actual cannabis but with no ceiling, so you can trip balls 
I've tried a synthetic I'm not sure which one though, I would assume 108. I got a free bag a friend owed me and the guy didn't pay attention when he bought it from someone else and took the peoples word and it looks kinda similar because it was that spice stuff or some other brand.
Anyway I was completely out, threw it in grinder without really feeling it or anything. I ground some up and poured it in heard some idk crackling kind of sound had no idea what it was.
Anyway hit my bag and felt little pieces of something in it but said oh well.
That ended up kicking my ass so badly i was SOOOOOO high for quite a while. I did enjoy it but I think it's way to easy to use to much of haha.
Anyway I was completely out, threw it in grinder without really feeling it or anything. I ground some up and poured it in heard some idk crackling kind of sound had no idea what it was.
Anyway hit my bag and felt little pieces of something in it but said oh well.
That ended up kicking my ass so badly i was SOOOOOO high for quite a while. I did enjoy it but I think it's way to easy to use to much of haha.
OXYz
Greenlighter
I'll also mention that after smoking these my throat felt really weird and phleghmy. Kind of like when on a lot of lsd. Not painful or bad, just strange.
Chainer
Bluelighter
^ I've got nothing like that, though I never smoke it raw, always with a bse of some sort of leaf or herb below it or on a cig
vaping, meth pipe style, seems to be bad news with this stuff....
it leaves large amounts of residue lining the lips, and i would argue it does the same to the lungs/throat...
I just cant see that being a good thing with a chemical like this...
Chainer
Bluelighter
yeah, i really dislike vaping the stuff because it doesn't get me as high as melting it over a plant or making my own blends. Never left any weird residue unless i overcooked that shit though, always turned clear like a puddle and vanished.
i mean, the pipe itself stays clean...its almost as if its vaporizing at the exact vaporization point and then cooling down by the time it hits the lips...
And any time i hit it with more heat, to the point that it was borderline smoke, there was less residue...
the residue is the same color as the original chemical if not a touch clearer...its...sticky, for lack of a better term...
it just scared the hell out of me and happened consistently...
I never tried outright smoking it though...
btw, any recommendations for a pre-gym variety of JWH? Sativa stimulant effects at first with some indica pain reduction is what im aiming for...
Eyes On the Roll
Bluelighter
does anyone know what chemical is in the "spice" packages?
I'm about to get on probation, and i just bought 2 3 gram packages for <No Prices - Chainer>$ each at my local headshop.
this got me stoned as hell, and i would say the effects of spice as compared to natural marijuana are so similar, except that the spice seems to wear off quicker.
i know the chemical is one of the JWH's but im not sure which one
I'm about to get on probation, and i just bought 2 3 gram packages for <No Prices - Chainer>$ each at my local headshop.
this got me stoned as hell, and i would say the effects of spice as compared to natural marijuana are so similar, except that the spice seems to wear off quicker.
i know the chemical is one of the JWH's but im not sure which one
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from my understanding...its a cocktail...and it varies by batch/bag
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c20h25n3oisgood
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hi everybody - i am fairly new to bluelight. I received 2 grams of jwh250 today
i probably smoked.... .3 to .4 of a gram (if that) over black tea, green tea and chamomile. ( i know. i feel like such a little kid ) anyway, I guess i've smoked probably 5 or 6 times since around 1 pm and now it is 12 am so lets say 11 hours.
i just blew my nose and found that i have bloody mucus. anybody have any idea??? I don't think i'll keep smoking this shit.
i probably smoked.... .3 to .4 of a gram (if that) over black tea, green tea and chamomile. ( i know. i feel like such a little kid ) anyway, I guess i've smoked probably 5 or 6 times since around 1 pm and now it is 12 am so lets say 11 hours.
i just blew my nose and found that i have bloody mucus. anybody have any idea??? I don't think i'll keep smoking this shit.
Chainer
Bluelighter
300mg to 400mg of 250 in a day? I'm guessing you've got some seriously cut product. If you don't have much RC experience, I'd consider trying another vendor unless you are sure you've got some good shit. That's some heavy smoking.
Blood could be from dry sinuses, never experienced anything like that from any series of JWH.
Blood could be from dry sinuses, never experienced anything like that from any series of JWH.
c20h25n3oisgood
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yeah im a real heavy smoker---in cannabis terms at least
and i hear there is a cross tolerance
i mean the first time i smoked i took two rips and was quite blazedddddd but im also estimating so it could be far less than that.
and good to hear at least you havent experienced that
and i hear there is a cross tolerance
i mean the first time i smoked i took two rips and was quite blazedddddd but im also estimating so it could be far less than that.
and good to hear at least you havent experienced that
Chainer
Bluelighter
I've smoked a good amount in totality now (probably ~10 grams of both 250 and 0-18 ) and have felt no side effects other than noticing it has stimulant properties for me unless blended correctly.
My tolerance is absurd at this point though, I can smoke a blend [gram] with 100mg per gram and get very high. There is certainly a cross tolerance but not so much that you should be able to smoke .4 grams in a night. I imagine your product is cut or not what it is being sold as.
Many people have very odd side effects from JWH, I am one of the lucky ones who experience none [yet].
You should give 018 a try instead of 250, many people like it more and the high lasts roughly 20 minutes longer, though there is a noticable comedown apposed to 250.
My tolerance is absurd at this point though, I can smoke a blend [gram] with 100mg per gram and get very high. There is certainly a cross tolerance but not so much that you should be able to smoke .4 grams in a night. I imagine your product is cut or not what it is being sold as.
Many people have very odd side effects from JWH, I am one of the lucky ones who experience none [yet].
You should give 018 a try instead of 250, many people like it more and the high lasts roughly 20 minutes longer, though there is a noticable comedown apposed to 250.
villian
Bluelighter
I have vaped probaly 250mg of 073 and 500mg of 250 out of my glass dick
I wanted to get a buzz going on before I got in the shower yesterday, but couldn't get a very good hit off my pipe
I ended up holding a lighter up to the tube and letting all the resin melt down into the globe part of the glass dick
I took a hit before I got in the shower and exhaled a huge cloud of vapor, it looked like I took a bong hit
When I got in the shower it hit me like a freight train, I had to sit down in the tub. I had considerable OEV's and when I closed my eyes there were CEV's as well. I tried to stand up, but I couldn't muster the strength to stand up, my legs weren't working
My heart was beating so hard I thought it was going to explode. After a couple of minutes of this that felt like a few hours, I had a full on ego death experience
It was about 30 minutes before I could stand up. I dried off, and got into bed and fell asleep for a few hours. Woke up with a terrible headache and kidney pain.
I ended up breaking my glass dick and flushing over a gram of JWH
The closest thing I can compare the experience too is a mixture of salvia and DMT..I've been doing drugs since the 90's and that was definitely one of my strongest 3 drug experiences of all time
I have no idea how much I dosed because it was a resin hit gone wrong, but obviously it was a huge dose
I feel alright today, but I will never forget that experience.
I wanted to get a buzz going on before I got in the shower yesterday, but couldn't get a very good hit off my pipe
I ended up holding a lighter up to the tube and letting all the resin melt down into the globe part of the glass dick
I took a hit before I got in the shower and exhaled a huge cloud of vapor, it looked like I took a bong hit
When I got in the shower it hit me like a freight train, I had to sit down in the tub. I had considerable OEV's and when I closed my eyes there were CEV's as well. I tried to stand up, but I couldn't muster the strength to stand up, my legs weren't working
My heart was beating so hard I thought it was going to explode. After a couple of minutes of this that felt like a few hours, I had a full on ego death experience
It was about 30 minutes before I could stand up. I dried off, and got into bed and fell asleep for a few hours. Woke up with a terrible headache and kidney pain.
I ended up breaking my glass dick and flushing over a gram of JWH
The closest thing I can compare the experience too is a mixture of salvia and DMT..I've been doing drugs since the 90's and that was definitely one of my strongest 3 drug experiences of all time
I have no idea how much I dosed because it was a resin hit gone wrong, but obviously it was a huge dose
I feel alright today, but I will never forget that experience.