a couple beers seem to work just great , way higher !!! still gotta beat plastic i think alcohol is key , just think what breaks down plastic , when plastic is exposed to say lighter fluid it breaks down thats harsh i know , but plastic can be beat , plus if you drink a couple beers really intensifies like 4 times power with ops , but must be very carefull if doing this very dangerous , purdue strongly advises about not drinking with them i see why 2 beers and 2 80's , leaves are floating in the air again and a feeling of peace , wow never thought i would get it back , but its here and its real , its not like i never done them , been doing ocs for 10 years and ops for 1 week and first time i have enjoyed them , please post if anyone else feels like me , i do believe it works gotta down 2 beers with 2 80's and u will be there , like a halh hour longer wait and i would not drink no more but a serious attitude adjustment , maybe alcohol will destoy plastic like it destroys everything else , i do know its nice to see leaves floating and losing sense of time
