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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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I've been using G on and off for a year or so. When its in I use it every day. Giving the odd break every week. This is the most I've used it and I've only just now lost the "magic" Some say they've been off of it for 6 months and the got a little "magic" back. Perhaps its all to do with how much you use, how often and how long. I'm no expert though. Treacle is the best person to ask IMO. He seems to have the most knowlege on the subject.
 
Hey thanks Sadie.

Yer I'm OK now felt a bit funny after it happened my heart wouldn't stop racing all night!

I don't really remember to be honest I just remember dancing to Dubfire then falling over in a puddle then being in my mates car then being sick in the hospital toilet. I came round shortly after that and self discharged from A+E.
 
Ill take a few days off and try using some on monday. Ive only been averaging 4ml an evening, so hopefully it won't take too long to get some magic back.
 
Personally Gok I think you'll be okay. 4 mil a night isnt much at all. I was using about 5-7 mil in a night and I only recently lost the magic. I find with Geebie that it really does vary from person to person. I have a mate that can 24/7 dose and only recently got mild withdrawls. I can abuse the crap out of it and not get any ill effects. I'm not pushing it though. Just gonna count myself lucky.
 
Cheers Sadie I'm actually mixing them at the moment and they seem to be fine so it's the long term im worried about :\ might stop using G for a week I mean it's only a week right? lol
 
Which ones are you on? I was recently on metronidazole. Its nice to finally have a drink. It said not to drink on them. After hearing a few stories from other folk I'm glad I took that as a warning rather than advice and did as the dentist told me.
 
Sadie said:
Which ones are you on? I was recently on metronidazole. Its nice to finally have a drink. It said not to drink on them. After hearing a few stories from other folk I'm glad I took that as a warning rather than advice and did as the dentist told me.
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Yeah I always take the doctors advice just didn't want to ask him about it being mixed with G lol.

I'm on Flucloxacillin now but was on Amoxicillin (which is weaker).

I've decided to take a break from G as my health has to come first. Looking forward to having a nice cold JD and Coke though when I'm off them :D
 
goku4ever said:
I have minor twitches when using GBL.
Also, how long does it take to lose tolerance and to get the good effects back? Ive been using it every day for about 10 days and in the last couple of sessions the euphoria is mostly gone and has been replaced by sedation.
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Twitches are totally normal when you have gone over a certain dose. They used to be a signal to me that I was about to say night night for an hour or so. Your tolerance shouldn't really have gone up unless you are caning it 24/7 - even then mine used to stay pretty much the same. The euphoria comes back usually quite quickly, but sometimes only lasts for a couple of doses before disappearing again. If you're only doing it at evenings, then having a couple of days off should bring back some of the better effects. Abuse it, and you might end up never really getting back the good effects. This seems to happens after addiction and withdrawal. Tread carefully. :)

PTJ: Antibiotics are fine with G.
 
^ ^ Great! I've had a G free day today and feeling alright but was dreading tonight!! I find it really hard to sleep without a couple ml's of G. Cheers Treacle :)
 
The only antibiotic you really really shouldn't drink on is metronidazole (and a few really rare ones) as it causes a disulfiram-like reaction, although via a different mechanism as far as I know. Other antibiotics won't be anywhere near as bad but drinking isn't going to help if you have an infection so best to stay away from alcohol on all antibiotics I reckon, at least til you are feeling better! G shouldn't have a disulfiram-like reaction with metronidazole as far as I can see (infact the term is used to mean the specific syndrome caused by ingesting alcohol) but as the mechanism isn't entirely agreed on I wouldn't like to make any promises!
 
effie said:
The only antibiotic you really really shouldn't drink on is metronidazole (and a few really rare ones) as it causes a disulfiram-like reaction, although via a different mechanism as far as I know. Other antibiotics won't be anywhere near as bad but drinking isn't going to help if you have an infection so best to stay away from alcohol on all antibiotics I reckon, at least til you are feeling better! G shouldn't have a disulfiram-like reaction with metronidazole as far as I can see (infact the term is used to mean the specific syndrome caused by ingesting alcohol) but as the mechanism isn't entirely agreed on I wouldn't like to make any promises!
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OK thanks for the heads-up effie. I'll try and avoid taking any G then if possible!
 
Part Time Junkie said:
OK thanks for the heads-up effie. I'll try and avoid taking any G then if possible!
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Hehe I really don't know if you should avoid it or not, can't see a logical reason why it would be an issue but just wanted to add that I couldn't be sure, would hate to give out incorrect information! If Treacle reckons its all good then I am sure he is right, I've never tried antibiotics and G as a combo before so am just talking theoretically. I don't think I would combine them myself though, if I'm taking antibiotics I want my body to heal as quickly as poss and wouldn't want to risk anything interfering with that.. and also would not want the lack of sleep that even one dose of G seems to cause in me. Each to their own though :) hope you are not feeling too poorly!
 
I would almost 99.9% guarantee that it won't be an issue. GHB/GBL do not go through the same route of metabolism as alcohol, although 1,4-Butanediol does. You won't be taking the latter, however.
 
^ ^ Thanks Treacle that's good to know! :)

effie - I'm not doing too badly thanks just got a bit of an ear infection :( The worst thing about it is that I'm a DJ/Producer so I really need my ears to be on top form! lol
 
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That GHB might finally rear its bastard head as GBL went south on me, possibly due to interaction,withdrawal from other things.
I've got some stuff that I need to be off by Christmas, covering various downers and when I get down to zero I know full well that unfeasible depression will come to get me.
A week on the real deal and then, who knows what.Mainly because I cannot handle being at my parents for any longer than half a day without drugs. 2 xmas's in a row showed me that 24/7 GBL can have temporary benefits, eg xmas 2008 was the best one I had had for possibly 15 years, and last years wasn't half bad either. I'd rather be in a non-depressed, communicative mood, and not having any craving for alcohol or opiates or benzos for the time spent around people who I have issues with.
And I am asking the dr shortly what he made of the info I gave him on pregabalin and whether I would be allowed to take it.
Got counselling coming up one day and every time I talk to a physician or health worker I always downplay or miss-out my substance abuse. I know its sometimes better to come clean, but I've found that most absolutely hate me if "drugs" are mentioned, besides anti-depressants.
My shit psychiatrist would far rather I fuck my liver with alcohol than take any drug other than shitty wanky-depressants. The only fucking things that I have ever taken that had an anti-depressant effect have been DRUGS you useless cunt.
 
going through ghb withdrawal without any other drugs/alcohol in system?

Hi all,

I've read through this entire thread and registered just to post in it.

Basically, everything I've read about peoples' experiences withdrawing from G is terrifying but also doesn't jive at all with my personal experience. I've stopped gbl cold turkey from everything from a once a day to a 7x a day 15 ml habit, and have never experienced any kind of withdrawal effects other than trouble sleeping. However, I've had trouble sleeping my entire life and would not say that sleeping post-G was any harder than sleeping pre-G.

Here's a summary of my experience with G:

2005: Obtained 250 ml of gbl. Barely used it, this lasted until the middle of 2007, including giving it to friends and whatnot.

2007-2009: My girlfriend and I went through about 1.5 L. Didn't use every day, but pretty often.

2009: My girlfriend and I went through 2.5 L in this year alone, including 1 L in just the months September-December. We had two periods in which we didn't have any, and in both periods we just used normally until we ran out, and didn't experience any withdrawals.

2010: In January, ran out of G. I had about a 20 ml a day habit at this point, including 3 ml used twice at night to sleep. I didn't suffer any withdrawals whatsoever from this. In March, got 500 ml which lasted a month and a half until the middle of april. Again, once I ran out I didn't have any withdrawals whatsoever. I actually didn't have any G for 4 months, and didn't encounter any problems beyond difficulty sleeping, which was pretty constant for the entire 4 months.

Now I have gbl again and am using about 7-8 mls a day.

My theory is this: I don't drink and I don't use any other drugs regularly except weed/jwh on a semi-regular basis, maybe 3 days a week. I also have a pretty healthy diet and take vitamins. Is it possible that the g withdrawals are related to alcohol/benzos/other drugs that the g potentiates? I find it confusing that people say that after two weeks of regular usage they will have withdrawals upon stopping the usage of g. I've dosed 5-7 times a day for a period of months and stopped cold turkey without any symptoms of detox. It's truly puzzling to me. Of course I count my blessings but at the same time I wonder if it's because I don't use any other GABA-agonists.


Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.
 
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