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4-methylaminorex (4-MAR)

i've IV'd 4-mar with no problems at all. it has been the most intense IV stim feeling i've experienced bar none. meth was close of course.

it was easily water soluble in my experience, just needs to be crushed well.

smoking was way too fiendish like meth. 150mg of this product got me off for a good amount of hours before crashing reasonably well.

it was shorter lasting than meth, though the rush was continuous for a good hour before diminishing into a feeling of content doing anything; sitting, talking, music. sex was absolutely amazing!
 
Sustanon said:
Ive came/come across it pretty often. Meth is alot better. Lacks the euphoria and it doesnt feel as good when smoked. IMO meth hcl shits over 4-mar. U can really notice the difference. Then again i prefer amphetamine suplhate over all amphetamines.
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This is what really stumps me... I have never smoked meth, but have injected it twice now (on it now). And had it before in "ecstasy" pills. But I fail to understand what draws people to this drug soo badly. The come down is absolutely god awful and the high is good. But I have had better. Please explain!?
 
mav3rick said:
Hi Leftwing,

Thanks for your reply. Was the procedure the same? Crush add water stir etc or is there anything else that needs to be done?

Thanks again

Mav
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yep, it was exactly the same procedure as prepping crystal. just make sure to crush extremely fine otherwise you'll be spending a shitload of time trying to dissolve them in the spoon or baggy.

have fun, i know you will;)=D

and take it easy on the dose first time around even if you've got a higher meyth tolerance because of quality variation from batch to batch, dealer to dealer, etc.
 
Sugar28 said:
This is what really stumps me... I have never smoked meth, but have injected it twice now (on it now). And had it before in "ecstasy" pills. But I fail to understand what draws people to this drug soo badly. The come down is absolutely god awful and the high is good. But I have had better. Please explain!?
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It's insidious, nasty, but oh-so-lovely stuff. Because the high can be subtle compared to a lot of recreational substances a lot of users don't really get it the first few times. The more you use meth/speed the more it sinks its hooks into you though until you find you really crave it. Also it's easy to use daily, in just about any circumstance unless you're a surgeon or something that requires extremely fine motor skills or concentration. I.e. it's easy to be a functional addict, whereas you wouldn't say drop acid or mdma for a day at work...

You're jumping in the deep end injecting it straight away though, most people progress from oral -> nasal -> smoking and then to injecting if they end up using that route of administration. It has the most risks involved so be careful <3

Anyway, baaaaacccckkkk on topic....
 
I'm very surprised and somewhat happy to report that I have had the pleasure of eating some 4-MAR last night that had been sold to me as meth...

The main thing that tipped me off was that after placing a rather large crystal of it in my mouth, my mouth went cold!

Just tested up what was left in the baggy with marquis and was delighted to see the fizzing reaction with no colour change confirming my gut feeling..

Was an interesting night with lots of euphoria and interesting conversations.. I felt absolutely munted at quite a few points in the night..

Suprisingly it cost less than I expected, we ended up with almost a G for what I would normally pay for the same amount of meth..
 
It certainly is getting around lately. Without getting into synthesis discussion I just want to say that this is a probably a result of Project Stop and the resultant difficulty of diverting methamphetamine precursors. 4-MAR precursors can be easily synthed OTC. I expect we'll be seeing alot more as time goes on and I for one can't wait to get my hands on some!
 
Friend of mine in brissie was up for 4 days on some pills that he said gave a clean, 12 - 14 hour speedy buzz. Not gonna jump to conclusions but if there's 4-mar doing the rounds it sounds like a likely culprit.
 
footscrazy said:
^ I'd think it'd be MDPV more likely, just giv en the amounts needed and prices etc.
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Doesn't MDPV only last 2 - 4 hours? I've never tried it, but did a bit of reading.

The other possibility I was thinking of was desoxypipradol.
 
Apparently the half life is only 3-5 hours but I always felt it lasted longer than that. Plus seeing a dose is only 15-20mg it'd be a cheap kick to add to a pill.
I just can't imagine anyone putting 4-MAR in a pill, given the exorbitant prices it can get on it's on.
 
I'm not saying I know what 'real ice' is or what it's not. What I do know is that the stuff I used to smoke in 2006 was (for me) monumentally better than the stuff I did 5 hours ago! There are similarities, but overall today's stuff, along with the ridiculous price tags (even with a 'chick's discount' :D), has made me decide it's time to throw away the pipe for good.

I agree that the only way to know the truth about meth and 4-mar is to test it to see what it is and test it also for what effects they have on the SAME person. Anyone can say I know someone who knows someone, but I doubt the majority do 'know' someone.
 
Personal experiences:
The effects I felt were tingling all over my face and head...kind of numbing, I felt really light...like floating haha, within 1 min I had the overwhelming urge to do it with anyone and I couldn't stop smiling for no reason (like I was looking at the gates of heaven). 10 min later I had to drive my friend home and drove a full car of people at 200Km/h on the freeway and to me I thought I had more control and alertness in my driving than ever before (I was even giving lessons to ppl in the car to indicate and head check when changing lanes). And yes I was soooo intrigued in what everyone had to say and I just seemed to know the answers for everything! I loved everyone around me and was waaay to nice to everyone (I made my dad cry because I told him I love him....which has never happened b4). Didn't sleep for 3 days with just half a g, like the other guy b4 didn't want to dance but if I had to I know I would be awesome haha and I think I could have written a novel within those 3 days. To sum up - ridiculous confidence booster.

Anyway I could go on forever but now I'll say how I am feeling now after doing half a gram of this 'ice'. Nowadays (very rarely do it maybe 3 or 4 times a yr) there is no way I would be caught dead driving on it as I feel scattered and doubtful about everything, I feel instantly sick in the stomach, I don't feel like moving from the same spot (I would go gym @ 3am b4), I don't really care about what people are saying and I am not that nice, just extremely paranoid and edgy. No happy feeling, yuck taste in throat and dread instead of anticipation in case the next burn will make me feel even sicker.

Things in common are can't sleep (harder on 2006 stuff), can't eat and both have huge amounts (if correctly burned) of awesome white smoke. It did not have much of a taste or smell (unless cutters) and left only a slight foggy residue on pipe. The colour of the crystals was different shades of brown (today crystal clear) and not those big rocks.
 
I guy I know used to give me tiny, tiny lines of what was being called 'cow'. I just thought it was gear but this stuff would keep you up for days off maybe 20-30mg bumps. I don't have that much experience with meth, I try to stay away from it, but I have had good stuff before and this 'cow' stuff was different. Apparently it's twice the price as well, which is A LOT. Could it be? I've always wondered what it was...
 
4-MAR is not sold in the US as Ice,crytsal meth is..

slipknot1 said:
what do you people know about aminorex? apparently sold as ice in america and schedule 1 narcotic...
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Crystal meth is sold as "ice" in the united states,these days anyway.No one really sells 4-MAR in quntity or on a regular basis here that I know of.It is a rare drug here actually unless you know somone who makes it themselves.
4-MAR last much longer than crystal meth and up to 36 hours at higher doses.
 
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