Yeahhhhh, I reckon 4-MAR gives a way longer awake feeling.. I had two points IV over a two day period (one point per shot) and another day later I'm not tired at all, haven't slept a wink or really worried about much else besides organising more, even though I'd take meth over this stuff hands down, it seems to be what's on my mind and I had killer shards last week that I haven't been able to stop thinking about/craving, until 4-MAR showed up, haha.. I'm going to try and conduct my little experiment, mix meth and 4mar together and see how that works, it HAS to be amazing, how could it not be? Haha..