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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?

Quite easy. I've only ever done it using normal conversion from GBL to GHB rules using a heated flame. I can't remember the exact in's and outs, so i'd say seek further advice, I'm crap.

I much prefer GHB powder for weighing with scales. I can get too dose happy if it's liquid, and GHB is less of a hard cunt when it comes to WD's, it can still a bit a bit of a tyrant though.
 
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cherrycolouredfunk said:
Quite easy. I've only ever done it using normal conversion from GBL to GHB rules using a heated flame. I can't remember the exact in's and outs, so i'd say seek further advice, I'm crap.

I much prefer GHB powder for weighing with scales. I can get too dose happy if it's liquid, and GHB is less of a hard cunt when it comes to WD's, it can still a bit a bit of a tyrant though.
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Yeah, I usually always only get Pure Pharmaceutical Grade GHB Powder. But at the moment - I can't really get any of the 'powder that pleases' for another week or two.

I have local access to liquid G, but most of the fucking liquid G here you can tell has totally unreacted GBL left in the mix. :\
 
I guess I'm lucky on the withdrawal front. I was dosing daily for well over a year, every few hours by the end of it, and had no noticeable side effects. Possibly a bit more anxiety and the mental urge to do more but nothing physical. It is annoying to fall asleep now but it was before I found g. I never really increased my dose though. Pretty much anything over 1.5ml would knock me out, unless I was on uppers.

Sad that my last order was intercepted by customs but glad I'm giving my body a break.
 
chrissie said:
I guess I'm lucky on the withdrawal front. I was dosing daily for well over a year, every few hours by the end of it, and had no noticeable side effects. Possibly a bit more anxiety and the mental urge to do more but nothing physical. It is annoying to fall asleep now but it was before I found g. I never really increased my dose though. Pretty much anything over 1.5ml would knock me out, unless I was on uppers.

Sad that my last order was intercepted by customs but glad I'm giving my body a break.
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Were you using pure GHB powder, or GHB liquid or GBL?
 
chrissie said:
I guess I'm lucky on the withdrawal front. I was dosing daily for well over a year, every few hours by the end of it, and had no noticeable side effects. Possibly a bit more anxiety and the mental urge to do more but nothing physical. It is annoying to fall asleep now but it was before I found g. I never really increased my dose though. Pretty much anything over 1.5ml would knock me out, unless I was on uppers.

Sad that my last order was intercepted by customs but glad I'm giving my body a break.
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Yeah also been using daily for long periodes at times, withdrawals never were an issue. Also my doses didnt go up and didnt note any tolerance.
 
Hi guys, I am currently residing in Ukraine and unfortunately the cultural attitude towards my favorite substances is not particularly positive nor do I have reliable 'connects'.

In order to find a solution to this issue, I've decided to look into getting some OTC substances. Unfortunately, Ukraine has recently copied Russia's ban on mephedrone/Salvia/JWH and even LSA containing plant seeds. So I've decided to order myself some GBL. I am going to try and start with a .5L order and see how things go from there.

I have a few questions that I was hoping you guys could help me out with:

-What's the best substance to mix GBL with? Orange juice? What about water would that work? Is a .5L drink going to be enough to dilute as needed?
-How do you measure out the right dose of GBL to dilute with your drink of choice? As I understand GBL reacts with most plastics, so using a plastic syringe would be out of the question, no? Do I just add a teaspoon of this stuff to a half a liter bottle of OJ?
-As I understand GBL only works for about any hour or so, is that correct?
-How do you use this stuff in a club environment? Do you just carry a glass syringe with 10ml of GBL and dilute it as needed?

Any other tips for using GBL in a club-type environment? Unfortunately most of my friends might not approve of drinking some weird chemical that was purchased online, so I have to be discreet.

Thanks!
 
The plastic syringes I use aren't corroded by GBL, they're very cheap anyway, so you can just buy one, drop a bit of G on it, and if it reacts, well no big loss. I always just mix it with a little water, enough so it doesn't burn, then you can chase it with whatever you like.
 
Damn, I think I just screwed up a conversion (first time trying). What I am left with is a cloudy milky white liquid.
I think I know where I went wrong though, I didn't give enough time for the sodium bicarb to dissolve properly and I added the GBL too quick.
Theres 25ml Ill never see again =(
 
MeDieViL said:
Can you get phenibut? Ive read it fully takes care of G withdrawal, (its own withdrawal is horrible too) but with that you may be able to further taper down.
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It does fully take care of G withdrawal. Either McPanda wasn't dosing high enough, or his valium addiction got in the way. I'd guess the second.
 
can i drink my way out of withdrawals from GBL? last dose in 1 hour. i'm wondering if wine and cannabis is going to help much.
 
goku4ever said:
Damn, I think I just screwed up a conversion (first time trying). What I am left with is a cloudy milky white liquid.
I think I know where I went wrong though, I didn't give enough time for the sodium bicarb to dissolve properly and I added the GBL too quick.
Theres 25ml Ill never see again =(
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Why did you use bicarb? :\
 
watsons torment said:
can i drink my way out of withdrawals from GBL? last dose in 1 hour. i'm wondering if wine and cannabis is going to help much.
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If it's your first withdrawal, then drinking will help. I'd suggest drinking quite a decent amount. Weed is likely to increase anxiety. How exactly do you feel now?
 
goku4ever said:
Damn, I think I just screwed up a conversion (first time trying). What I am left with is a cloudy milky white liquid.
I think I know where I went wrong though, I didn't give enough time for the sodium bicarb to dissolve properly and I added the GBL too quick.
Theres 25ml Ill never see again =(
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I wouldn't give up just yet.

The cloudyness might be due to some insoluble impurities in the bicarbonate, maybe calcium carbonate or something like that. Does the liquid still smell of lactone? If not, the reaction has probably worked.

You could try some and see.
 
Why piss about with something that might not work, when there is a method that absolutely will work?
 
I can think of two reasons one might prefer to use sodium bicarbonate over sodium hydroxide:

1. its easier to get food grade sodium bicarbonate: just go to the local supermarket;

2. you don't have to be as careful with measurement. Even after adding too much bicarbonate, the pH won't be dangerously high.
 
Why would you care if the base you use is food grade? The GBL sure isn't. As for the careful measuring thing...I'd want to measure it carefully any way. It's pretty easy to fuck up with bicarb by the sounds of it, so I guess you have to measure carefully with that too.
 
Yerg said:
Why would you care if the base you use is food grade? The GBL sure isn't. As for the careful measuring thing...I'd want to measure it carefully any way. It's pretty easy to fuck up with bicarb by the sounds of it, so I guess you have to measure carefully with that too.
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It's true what you say about the GBL, but there's no point ingesting more cleaning products than you need to. And with bicarb, you don't need to mess about adjusting the pH at the end. If anything, the potential for fucking up is less.
 
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