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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?

^Too true.

MeDieViL said:
This dopamine rebound is bullshit imo, i think bilzor from the advanced forum said that once, and it also doesnt make any sense to me, G releases dopamine and once it wears off you just feel a bit more sedated.
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I've said this for ages. It's a short acting GABA agonist wearing off that causes the 'rebound'. Dopamine doesn't play much of a part in it.

Tap water is fine for GHB.
 
Not bullshit, its a mixture of your opinions about gaba b receptor downgrading and dopamine rebound, which has been scientifically proven. The unbelievable nausea and hundred mile an hour heart beat prove the rebound theory. I have been able to knock myself out the first day virtually every time without gaba b agonists.
But back when I was on it, I would say it takes at least as many days off it to recover. And still depression remains forever after.
But then its finding a replacement, and going down the gym is like hell.
I've found multiple replacements and now I'm a polydrug addict.
Surrounded by heroin addicts to boot.
 
I'm having a moral dilema whether to dose some GBL just now. I've had it the past 2 days, although only a dose or two at most. I'm not likely to start experiancing withdrawls after 3 days in a row, or is that likely?
 
brokenbrain said:
We aren't allowed to discuss making GHB, so talking about water is talking about making ghb.

6 months since I took any GBL.

I really, really don't miss the waking up after 4 hours and redosing every night part. But I really do miss the removal of urges to drink alcohol.
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Haven't done any GBL for 7 months, mainly because it didn't really work that much anymore in the end, didn't make social anymore. Not sure when getting some nice old GBL again, but I'm interested to see if it works again like in the beginning, so not just dizziness but the whole nice high again. %)
 
captain codshit said:
I'm having a moral dilema whether to dose some GBL just now. I've had it the past 2 days, although only a dose or two at most. I'm not likely to start experiancing withdrawls after 3 days in a row, or is that likely?
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You should be fine codders. Many people have it 6 -7 days a week just in the evening. 3 mil max of a night. Just remember to keep it at low doses ( your sweet spot ) and keep it to a couple. Try to take some time off of it though. Give your body a little detox.
 
Is there any danger of high intensity exercise the morning after taking a small dose the night before?
I received my GBL today and want to try just 1ml tonight (GBL-virgin), but I really want to go running tomorrow morning too.
 
Awesome cheers.
I tried 1ml about 40 minutes ago. Quite a small dose, but my body is generally rather sensitive to drugs.
Its effects are alright, nothing amazing. I just feel like Ive had 2-3 pints is all. I will have to try a higher dose at some other point.

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It was kinda crap to be honest.
 
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It can take a few tries to find your ideal dosage.

I love the way I can get smashed for a couple of hours on a weeknight with zero hangover the next day. :D
 
Ok, my first time I took 1ml, nearly no effect. 2nd time I took 2ml there were some, but they were quite light. I took 2ml half an hour ago and Im getting some rather potent effects. Im finding it a struggle to focus on typing. Really nice feeling though.

I read about it taking a couple of experiences for the appropriate enzymes to be made or something, so I assume its that.
 
What's the exact legal status on this?

Some sites offer to sell GBL to UK consumers, providing you fill out a declaration in which you accept that: GBL is not for human ingestion, that permitting human ingestion is a criminal offense, and that any details you provide on this declaration can be provided to "the authorities" in the UK.

What gives?

Is this a loophole?
 
goku4ever said:
Ok, my first time I took 1ml, nearly no effect. 2nd time I took 2ml there were some, but they were quite light. I took 2ml half an hour ago and Im getting some rather potent effects. Im finding it a struggle to focus on typing. Really nice feeling though.

I read about it taking a couple of experiences for the appropriate enzymes to be made or something, so I assume its that.
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have you nutted your keyboard yet?
 
tambourine-man said:
What's the exact legal status on this?

Some sites offer to sell GBL to UK consumers, providing you fill out a declaration in which you accept that: GBL is not for human ingestion, that permitting human ingestion is a criminal offense, and that any details you provide on this declaration can be provided to "the authorities" in the UK.

What gives?

Is this a loophole?
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The Government realises that GBL has a very valid use in the industry, so as long as it is used for those purposes it is legal to order and have.

scrooloose said:
have you nutted your keyboard yet?
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XD nah, just my lazy eye I couldnt control so I was getting really dodgy vision. Its fine now though.
 
brokenbrain said:
Not bullshit, its a mixture of your opinions about gaba b receptor downgrading and dopamine rebound, which has been scientifically proven. The unbelievable nausea and hundred mile an hour heart beat prove the rebound theory. I have been able to knock myself out the first day virtually every time without gaba b agonists.
But back when I was on it, I would say it takes at least as many days off it to recover. And still depression remains forever after.
But then its finding a replacement, and going down the gym is like hell.
I've found multiple replacements and now I'm a polydrug addict.
Surrounded by heroin addicts to boot.
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Ive never experienced any fast heart beat or nausia after GBL wears off, and i can easily consume 100ml in 2 weeks time, i just make sure to never take any before its evening and thus avoid physical addiction.

You are suffering from withdrawal from overdoing the stuff, this has nothing to do with any rebound. (even if you take less then me, some ppl are more sensitive to occuring withdrawals, so youll need to find how much you can handle without bad side effects, i can handle alot of the stuff, but i do take a break once and a while from it for 2 weeks.
 
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tambourine-man said:
What's the exact legal status on this?

Some sites offer to sell GBL to UK consumers, providing you fill out a declaration in which you accept that: GBL is not for human ingestion, that permitting human ingestion is a criminal offense, and that any details you provide on this declaration can be provided to "the authorities" in the UK.

What gives?

Is this a loophole?
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You can have a max of 5 litres deliverd to your front door, next day special BASF quality for about £60/litre in bulk. Order from abroad, and be fucking sure to attach the PDF signed by you stating that it is not for your own digestion. Any more than 5 litres (up to about 1000 litres) and you need to be a registered company.

Again that sounds awkward, but it takes 30 minutes, and £18 when you know how to do it :\

The police will sieze it, threated and lie to you, and possible detain/search + damage your property/plant evidence if they are in a foul mood. So be fucking careful!
 
Sorry to spam this thread again, but are you 100% sure about it not causng a dopamine build up?

If I dose about an hour before using a Dopamine releasing drug (or even better seratonin and dopamine =D ) it feels Fucking Amazing. The 1st time I did this with MDMA the experience was better than my 1st MDMA experience hands down.

As for the rapid heart beat problem, take some propanalol or another Beta-blocker and that is sorted ;)
 
FlippingTop said:
Sorry to spam this thread again, but are you 100% sure about it not causng a dopamine build up?

If I dose about an hour before using a Dopamine releasing drug (or even better seratonin and dopamine =D ) it feels Fucking Amazing. The 1st time I did this with MDMA the experience was better than my 1st MDMA experience hands down.

As for the rapid heart beat problem, take some propanalol or another Beta-blocker and that is sorted ;)
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I'm not 100% sure, but thats my experience with it, i think it just depends how sensitive you are to physical addiction, i can get away with alot, but some may get the start of withdrawal like symptons sooners, i doubt a racing beart is a rebound as youd need a massive rebound for that (i would expect a rebound to resemble nicotine or something) or its possible that this rebound doesnt happen in the mesolimbic regio's, i would gues that GHB does raise dopamine there as its euphoric, so a dopamine rebound shouldnt happen in that regio (and thats also where dopamine release by MDMA and other drugs causes euphoria).
 
on my 14th day of 24/7 dosing 2.5ml a time, every couple of hours, the effects of this drug are minimal now and i'm just dosing to postpone the inevitable withdrawels. I've only got 30ml left now and i should probably start looking to taper down before i run out.

not looking forward to the WD's - but i've been abusing the fuck out of it so... buy the ticket take the ride. :)
 
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