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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?

I could convert to GHB to taper with, but i've only got 30mls left (2 days of use and that is if i stretch it out) and if i fucked up the conversion and wasted the last 30ml i'd be fucking gutted and chucked straight in at the deep end of withdrawals.

i actually prefer GBL to GHB anyway. it might be more toxic and harmful to me but i find in to give more of a kick in paint stripper format
 
Is the conversion easy to screw up? I recently got some GBL, but find I am dosing too frequently because it only lasts me about an hour before I return to near base. I was thinking of converting some to GHB as I hear that lasts longer.
Currently my starting dose is 2ml and every hour I dose 1ml.
 
The conversion is a piece of piss. If you can't do that you sure as fuck can't bake a cake.
 
Is the conversion easy to screw up? I recently got some GBL, but find I am dosing too frequently because it only lasts me about an hour before I return to near base. I was thinking of converting some to GHB as I hear that lasts longer.
Currently my starting dose is 2ml and every hour I dose 1ml.

its easy as fuck to do, but i have managed to fuck it up before and i'm not taking the chance at this moment, i must prefer GBL to GHB anyway

are you doing round the clock at present goku?
 
Nah, just in the evenings. Im praying I never need to use it round the clock. Im just taking it because its an enjoyable experience. Not every evening either.

After converting GBL to GHB, how do I figure out dosing?
 
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fuck 20ml to go and i'm on 3ml doses now.

the taper has failed. WDs tomorrow. i'm not going to be able to handle work and i can't take time off at the moment. ffffffuuuuu
 
Is the withdrawal that bad? GBL is kinda of scary. Im really enjoying the experience of taking a few mls in the evening. I am finding it hard to resist doing every evening. But I don't want to develop a problem with it.
 
fuck 20ml to go and i'm on 3ml doses now.

the taper has failed. WDs tomorrow. i'm not going to be able to handle work and i can't take time off at the moment. ffffffuuuuu

Can you get phenibut? Ive read it fully takes care of G withdrawal, (its own withdrawal is horrible too) but with that you may be able to further taper down.
 
Nah, just in the evenings. Im praying I never need to use it round the clock. Im just taking it because its an enjoyable experience. Not every evening either.

After converting GBL to GHB, how do I figure out dosing?

Why do you want to taper if you only take it in the evenings? I do that too and everytime i run out i dont get any withdrawals.
 
I don't want to taper. Ive heard that GHB is safer and generally lasts longer for each dose, thats all. I don't like re-dosing so frequently to maintain my peak.
 
Ah k,

Ive used both GHB and GBL and i dont really find that i dont redose as much as with GBL, i also tend to redose before the effects wear off just to give the euphoric effects a little more bump.

IMO how many times you redose has little to do with physical addiction, the most important thing is to be VERY consequent and never take any before its evening (i wait untill 6 o clock) i dont take any before that, never, this way i allways avoided addiction.
ALso DONT use it for sleep, as togheter with sleeping time there starts to be little time when your on it, only evenings and if you cant sleep eventually a benzo, no more GHB.
 
Yea, Im just really lazy. I have to get it out of the box I keep it in, unravvel it out of the bubble wrap, get my calpol syringe, suck up what I want, squirt it into my bottle, then fill up the bottle and then put the whole thing back. Ive only just figured out that 4ml a night is enough for me as Ive only taken it 4 times.
I always make sure to leave a couple of hours after my last dose so it doesn't interfere too much with my sleep. Theres usually a period in the night where I wake up, but it only lasts about 30 minutes then I go back to sleep as normal without needing to take anything. I wouldnt dream of using GBL/benzos for help to get to sleep. I won't even do it after taking stimulants.

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Also, is it true that GBL metabolism is unaffected by stomach contents? I read that somewhere.
 
Can you get phenibut? Ive read it fully takes care of G withdrawal, (its own withdrawal is horrible too) but with that you may be able to further taper down.


Id have to disagree with that from my personal experience. I was taking phenibut whilst I went through w/d and I still ended up nearly sectioned. Full on Audio and visual hallucination's. I proper lost the plot over 3/4 days. Was the horriblest moment off my life and that was after dosing 24/7 for 3/4 weeks.

But saying that everyone is different and I was coming off a valium addiction (stopped the vals and started on G, but have heard they are cross tolerant and was probably a mixture of both w/d's

Hope you don't have it as rough as I did Watson
 
Ah nvm then, i remember someone saying you could swap btw them perfectly once your physically addicted.
 
^ Phenibut does help tremendously with GHB withdrawal. But be REALLY fucking careful with Phenibut as I find the withdrawal from Phenibut worse than that of GHB/GBL. Just cause it lasts way longer. Also Phenibut caused some severe water retention after dosing 24/7 with it and I also broke out in a rash - really weird shit.

I am for now on just sticking with GHB powder. GHB is the bomb drug! :-)
 
How good do benzo's work?

This may be of intrest:
I could stop Klonopin (8mg daily for ~10 months) using Primidone within 2 weeks. It's much less toxic than Phenobarbital and Pheno is not nearly as dangerous as fast acting barbiturates.
its about someone that was addicted to benzo's and then used a non cross dependent drug (barbirate) for 2 weeks while stopping klonopin, he didnt feel any withdrawal symptons and after 2 weeks stopped the barb and was detoxed from klonopin.

Would this work with GHB? Eg take a benzo for 2 weeks and not notice any withdrawal and then stop it?
 
^ Benzo's do help, but I find when coming off GHB - you need to take extremely high doses of Benzo's in order for them to be effective. Like I'm talking 6mg of Ativan at least.
 
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