well for last year or so ive tried gettin off dope with suboxone and its never worked. so i got some 10 mg methadone pills, about 15. for last 4 or so days ive used them , along with benzos and only done dope once or twice. anyone think if i use my last 4 10 mg pills for next coupe days i can get off opiates?
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Opioids Kickin with methadone for about a week
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BIGsherm7272
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LOL you are in for one hell of a withdrawal.
100mgbluepill
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Do have anymore suboxane?
Trying to come off methadone is almost worse than H. I wouldnt suggest trying to taper with it..
Trying to come off methadone is almost worse than H. I wouldnt suggest trying to taper with it..
sir_thizzalot
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IF YOU HAVE WILL POWER, have a little dope around, and start the taper with methadone(maby not quite that fast, but I know you only have a little..), then go on heroin doing the smallest amount you can for a few days(methadone leaves a longer WD than H, right?), then start tapering off that.
I could be wrong, but I'd think that'd help all the methadone get out of your system before tapering off heroin, which doesn't have as long of a WD.
Anybody want to comment on how good/horrible my idea is?
100mgbluepill
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I personally think you're right, one of my friends went to a methadone clinic after being addicted to oc and he said the withdraws from methadone were the worse he ever had to deal with and he was doind 300mg+ of oc+ fetnyl everyday.
but im only doin like 20 mg of methadone a day plus a couple bags for the last week and before that i was doing about 4 mg of subs a few days a week and then about a bundle of dope few days a week.....................i also have benzos to help kick
That's only prolonging the withdrawal. Once the methadone runs out, you're back to square one and will have to face them anyway
Isnt the idea to just take it for about a week so that the dope sickness can get past and then there wont be much sicknesss from the M-done since i didint use it long
Isnt the idea to just take it for about a week so that the dope sickness can get past and then there wont be much sicknesss from the M-done since i didint use it long
stuckinaloop
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WTF are you talkin about..dumb as hell comment to make when you don't even know the extent of his opiate use. Kind of an asshole comment to make when someone is already scared trying to quit opiates.
You are not going to experience withdrawal from the 4 days of methadone use, but if even if you were just addicted to oxy (which I know it's heroin) withdrawals don't just last 4 days.
The methadone will get you through the worst of it but you are still going to experience withdrawals (depending on how dependant and the extent/length of your run was).
If you wer eto go CT from heroin, for me (if I am on a low enough dose to even stomach it) it takes about 3-4 days to stop throwing up and a good week before you get some sleep.
After 10 days the wrost of it's over but you still will experience post acute withdrawal symptoms for a month possibly more (again depending on use).
For me it's an uncomfortable feelign at night. like keep tossing and turning, if I can even fall asleep its a terrible sleep. Your bowel movements will also take about that long to return to normal.
jamesBrown
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Withdrawals only last me 4 days
Oppyandme
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I tapered off 200mg opana snorted a day with suboxone for 9 days. then was in physical W/d for about 6 days, but NOT bad, managable. I am 22 days clean from full agonists and the mental part is still as strong as day 1.
stuckinaloop
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I agree..the last attempt I made at getting clean, i was at the 30 day point and I was going CRAZY mentally
its lke i dunno wha thappened. just going crazy and then planned my relapse in a sense
Oppyandme
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Well i sorta picked up a coke habit now which is nasty. Its like the bitch little sister to opiates.
szechuan shrimp
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yes jake, i can only speak from experience and my experience is evey month and actually currently as we speak. in fact i just posted a long winded answer in another thread that was exactly about this subject..
i might be new here but i am not new to the game.
the trick is to just load up on dones on day 1 and 2 then cutback on day 3 then see if you can get throuh day4 with nothing. if yes then you will probably feel more off-kilter day 5 than on day 4 so take 20mg for the day then 10mg as needed if needed.
i shoot a lot of dope...but i always go broke at some point in the month so i use dones to get me through and the ticket is to build up a loading dose in the beginning then let the long half-life do its thing while you are coming off opiates the dones will still be active in your system and all you are trying to do is bridge he gap so as not to get hooked on dones (which def sux) and just do dones for a few days to get thru what would be the worst of the kick.
some people swear by suboxone but i dont - sub never took away the mental obsession to use like dones do. when i take 60mg of done i dont even think about a shot. anyways after day 5-6-7 with this method iam completely off dope and dones and can choose - of course i always choose to go back to dope b/c i was never trying to quit anyways - i was just trying to not be sick, still have a girlfriend and not get fired.
been to the clinic a few different times but they suck because they only start you at 20mg. anyways as far as my body goes this is the best way to bridge the gap.
Sepher
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jake99, I dunno bugger all about your history . . . I'm only going on what I've read on this thread as a newbie . . . but Suboxone is Buprenorphine by another name, innit?
Methadone is meant to have a shorter half-life than Buprenorphine, so I can see where you're coming from, and do ignore the LOL earlier, cos if you have any kind of opiate habit worth speaking of a weeks worth of methadone ain't gonna make your rip any worse than it would otherwise have been, but I wouldn't use it for long. In my experience it's more addicting, and much harder to come off than Heroin. It's main use is maintenance precisely because when compared to H it has a relatively long half-life, so if you're looking to do a rapid detox I'd try other options first.
No. You're just swapping. You'll not even go into real withdrawal until you eliminate opiates from your system altogether, and when the methadone runs out it will be there every bit as strong as it would have been before you started with it. If you're looking to do a rapid detox, and get properly clean fast, forget tapering methadone. You'd be better off tapering what you're on, in my experience? I'd suggest DF118s / Dihydrocodeine are about as strong a substitute as you really wanna get, and reduce dosing on them as fast as you can stand over no more than a week, but even they will prolong the withdrawal ( though it will be more bearable, and you might even sleep from time to time, admittedly.
) My best results were with even weaker 30mg Codeine Phosphate tabs, which seemed to alleviate the very worst symptoms, and made them reasonably bearable. Even after a 7 year intravenous habit I was relatively pain free by the 4th-5th day on them. It still took me a good few attempts, and sleeping came much, much later.
Sepher
Methadone is meant to have a shorter half-life than Buprenorphine, so I can see where you're coming from, and do ignore the LOL earlier, cos if you have any kind of opiate habit worth speaking of a weeks worth of methadone ain't gonna make your rip any worse than it would otherwise have been, but I wouldn't use it for long. In my experience it's more addicting, and much harder to come off than Heroin. It's main use is maintenance precisely because when compared to H it has a relatively long half-life, so if you're looking to do a rapid detox I'd try other options first.
No. You're just swapping. You'll not even go into real withdrawal until you eliminate opiates from your system altogether, and when the methadone runs out it will be there every bit as strong as it would have been before you started with it. If you're looking to do a rapid detox, and get properly clean fast, forget tapering methadone. You'd be better off tapering what you're on, in my experience? I'd suggest DF118s / Dihydrocodeine are about as strong a substitute as you really wanna get, and reduce dosing on them as fast as you can stand over no more than a week, but even they will prolong the withdrawal ( though it will be more bearable, and you might even sleep from time to time, admittedly.
) My best results were with even weaker 30mg Codeine Phosphate tabs, which seemed to alleviate the very worst symptoms, and made them reasonably bearable. Even after a 7 year intravenous habit I was relatively pain free by the 4th-5th day on them. It still took me a good few attempts, and sleeping came much, much later. Sepher
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qwe
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coming off methadone is only worse if you're on the methadone long term. that's when you get methadone's particularly nasty withdrawal
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