The 6-APB thread

[Scoobysnacks]

its coming upto 6 days since i took my pellet and can say now im back to how i describe as normal, my weed guy took pity on me and gave me 2 gram of power plant( stronng bud) and i got truly stoned for the first time in nearly a week, felt like when i was a young guy and id bashed wizz and i mean bashed lol, this shit should be renamed Britney as it so fucking TOXIC lmao


i will never take this shit again at any dose and i recomend peeps do the same

In bulk it ends up being a few cents per dose, but I still doubt that AMT was used in the pellets. It would undoubtedly reak of indole/mothballs and anyone who has used AMT would probably be able to tell. Let's not turn this thread into another trainwreck with further postulations and assumptions.

stuff doing the rounds in the uk , the hlc version didnt smell that much imo, not as peeps described the freebase stuff

 

[Leeroy84]

hi again, just thought id let u all know how me and my friends got on with some "pellets" on saturday night. I bought 4 of the larger sized pellets, in their official packaging from one of the five vendors last week as we were going clubbing on saturday. My friends were very dubious about 6-apb as they had never heard of it, i sampled half of my pellet at about 9pm and after about an hour i started to feel like i was coming up, although it wasnt as intense as a strong mdma come up, so i dropped the other half (10pm). At this time all 3 of my friends (after seeing me) decided to drop half each too. About an hour later and now in the club, i was really starting to enjoy myself, i was very clear headed but slightly confused at the same time (sounds wiered but its exaclty how i felt) i was getting body tingles and lights were wavy and brighter, i was quite stimulated and danced alot. One of my friends (who only had half) had too sit down because she said it was "coming on too strong", she said she kept hearing whispers in her ear and her phone ringing in her bag (even tho she never brought her phone out wiv her lol), she said however she was really enjoying it, but neaded to sit down. My other friends kept dancing, an hour or two later, me and my friedns were all sat down chatting absolute bollocks to strangers and strangely enough, we met another few lads who had taken 6-apb. I would describe the feeling as very chatty and "loved up", but without the shivvering and body clenching that i get off strong mdma, also the gurning wasnt as bad but i really missed the intense rushes i get off a good pill. I felt no need to re-dose all night and the buzz lasted until about 5am ish (when the club closed) urinating was a problem until later in the night, but i never had a shrivled dick and erection was easy at 6am with my gf. (but orgasm was impossible)
comedown however was less than mdma but i only had 1 pellet so would be interested to see what would happen if i took more.
anyway, the pellets i had, i would say were good and strong, but not as good as say the blue "mdma" facebooks of late last year, defo not worth a tenner but a good night.
They last alot longer than mdma pills too tho so maybe that outweighs the price issue, but i prefer the mdma rush and tingles.
Id probably buy more if the price came down, or if i was stuck for getting hold of good mdma pills.
anyway imo, if mdma pills are 10/10 these are probably about 8/10.

leeroy84, shill, vendor, whatever u want to call me lol

 

[Scoobysnacks]

hi again, just thought id let u all know how me and my friends got on with some "pellets" on saturday night. I bought 4 of the larger sized pellets, in their official packaging from one of the five vendors last week as we were going clubbing on saturday. My friends were very dubious about 6-apb as they had never heard of it, i sampled half of my pellet at about 9pm and after about an hour i started to feel like i was coming up, although it wasnt as intense as a strong mdma come up, so i dropped the other half (10pm). At this time all 3 of my friends (after seeing me) decided to drop half each too. About an hour later and now in the club, i was really starting to enjoy myself, i was very clear headed but slightly confused at the same time (sounds wiered but its exaclty how i felt) i was getting body tingles and lights were wavy and brighter, i was quite stimulated and danced alot. One of my friends (who only had half) had too sit down because she said it was "coming on too strong", she said she kept hearing whispers in her ear and her phone ringing in her bag (even tho she never brought her phone out wiv her lol), she said however she was really enjoying it, but neaded to sit down. My other friends kept dancing, an hour or two later, me and my friedns were all sat down chatting absolute bollocks to strangers and strangely enough, we met another few lads who had taken 6-apb. I would describe the feeling as very chatty and "loved up", but without the shivvering and body clenching that i get off strong mdma, also the gurning wasnt as bad but i really missed the intense rushes i get off a good pill. I felt no need to re-dose all night and the buzz lasted until about 5am ish (when the club closed) urinating was a problem until later in the night, but i never had a shrivled dick and erection was easy at 6am with my gf. (but orgasm was impossible)
comedown however was less than mdma but i only had 1 pellet so would be interested to see what would happen if i took more.
anyway, the pellets i had, i would say were good and strong, but not as good as say the blue "mdma" facebooks of late last year, defo not worth a tenner but a good night.
They last alot longer than mdma pills too tho so maybe that outweighs the price issue, but i prefer the mdma rush and tingles.
Id probably buy more if the price came down, or if i was stuck for getting hold of good mdma pills.
anyway imo, if mdma pills are 10/10 these are probably about 8/10.

in that enviroment and letting the stim work for ya, ie burning it off sounds far more enjoyable than taking indoors, nice report mate

i been thinking would i have liked this shit better as a young guy and i would definitly say yes, the comedown wd not of felt as harsh and i did enjoy my stims back then so that wd not of been such a problem, taken on friday and being able to have plenty time of to recover would of been far better, but sadly i coudnt do that, work and family make that impossible, a little to drawnout and heavy on the body to suit my age and lifestyle

 

[Vurtual]

I remember the tcp-like smell from the tan sample (smells like germaline to me), and the taste was the same too. To me the dose in my pellet (when crushed) seemed roughly similar to when i had 100mg of sample (with at least ~30mg margin of error due to subjectivity/set/setting etc.). When i dropped 1.5 it seemed stronger to me than the 100mg sample. These are my rough subjective opinions of course and may be completely wrong - ymmv.

I don't think there's aMT in the pellets - aMT has a long come up (like the pellets), but with the big difference that it builds slowly and (for me) lasts with full effects about 8 hours, then tails off for a couple of hours. These pellets do not share this profile (if only): you get the best bit for the first 4-6 hours at most which tails off for another 6-8 hours (every report i've read says something similar).

Added to this, tryptamine has a very distinctive body feel to me (tightness and buzzing round the sinuses) which i didn't get at all from the pellet. (I've done plenty amt recently).

/btw - skyhighguy is talking about capsules which he thinks may have amt in - not pellets. (Is this comment against the rules? Delete me if it is (but isn't it HR?))

 

[Scoobysnacks]

I remember the tcp-like smell from the tan sample (smells like germaline to me), and the taste was the same too. To me the dose in my pellet (when crushed) seemed roughly similar to when i had 100mg of sample (with at least ~30mg margin of error due to subjectivity/set/setting etc.). When i dropped 1.5 it seemed stronger to me than the 100mg sample. These are my rough subjective opinions of course and may be completely wrong - ymmv.

I don't think there's aMT in the pellets - aMT has a long come up (like the pellets), but with the big difference that it builds slowly and (for me) lasts with full effects about 8 hours, then tails off for a couple of hours. These pellets do not share this profile (if only): you get the best bit for the first 4-6 hours at most which tails off for another 6-8 hours (every report i've read says something similar).

Added to this, tryptamine has a very distinctive body feel to me (tightness and buzzing round the sinuses) which i didn't get at all from the pellet. (I've done plenty amt recently).

/btw - skyhighguy is talking about capsules which he thinks may have amt in - not pellets. (Is this comment against the rules? Delete me if it is (but isn't it HR?))

ya post seemed legal haha, i dont think there was amt in it not at any significant dose anyways, though im very suprised no vendors /headshops has thought of mixing a small amount of amt with another legal chem, it goes nicely alongside other shit, just be careful of the maoi danger, if i do experiment further with chems amt will be one alongside weed smoked in a vapouriser

 

[MrTiHKAL]

I tried one pellet of 6-apb Saturday evening crushed and bombed, it weighed 385mg and was a mostly uniform orange colour with no visible speckles. I hadn't used any other chemicals for 7 days and it was 3 hours since my last meal.

No effects were felt for two hours after which a slight mood lift and head and body tingles were noticed. There was a slight increase in the feelings over the next hour to a peak that consisted of feeling like i had taken maybe quarter of a good mdma pill or a small line of mephedrone but without any euphoria or empathy.

For the next three hours that was pretty much all I got except for feeling hot and sweaty and alot of jaw tension. I didn't experience much in the way of energy and there was no visual aspect at all.

I would say the main effects lated 3 hours from the comeup (5 hours total) with a gentle comedown that just sort of faded out over another hour.
Overall very dissapointing and won't be trying the pellets again in their current form.

Also I would like to say that I do not believe that these pellets contain AMT due to having some recent experience with it in small to medium doses none of which felt like this stuff, the jaw tension is not an effect I have had with AMT either.

 

[Mcat4eVa]

hello everyone,
as you can see im new to BL however i've been reading 6 apb threads for past month or so trying to make my mind up if i should try it or not. from reading various trip reports, it seems to have similar effects on everyone BUT intresting thing is the time taken to come up. some ppl say +30-45 min after ingestion where as others imply time taken to come up to the peak can be +2-3 hours after ingestion. i know this would depend on size/weight/active ingriedent/amount of food consumed prior but would these factors really make such a big difference?
Also by the looks of it, it seems more reasonable to take around 50-70 mgs and thn redose if needed to avoid nausea and other overwhelming effects, is that right?

 

[Scoobysnacks]

IMO, that's the whole problem.

The reason that entactogens (read: MDMA!) are scarce in the UK is because there is little demand for them. The demand is for any compound that will replace sobriety with some type of generic monged-out speediness.

If the people demand MDMA, it will return.

Until that time, be content with whatever shady garbage you happen to end up with.

I apologize for being curt, I mean this in the most respectful way possible.

yeh kids would not appreciate a good e, just like lots of people prefered wizz in early 90's, i know its laughable but true, ecstacy is to subtle for the kids so there no market fucking it up for us as in sky high prices

 

[Where Wolf?]

yeh kids would not appreciate a good e, just like lots of people prefered wizz in early 90's, i know its laughable but true, ecstacy is to subtle for the kids so there no market fucking it up for us as in sky high prices

hmmm....doesn't the mass-hysterical hunger fo 6-APB, marketed as 'legal mdma', show that the demand's still out there? My bet is that the scarcity for a long time of decent molly was more about precursor control than anything else. Preferring speed to e is one thing - some like stimulation, but find E too emotionally intoxicating - but preferring pipes/meph to E? Isn't it just that pipes and meph are cheaper, and those who didn't start on the real things don't appreciate the difference?

Back on topic, two friends tested pellets over the weekend, but didn't think to crush them - resulting in 4 hours passing before any effects, then a very mild, 12-hour, rather 'irritating' vaguely MDXX-like high with occasional, 2-CB type minor visuals, that 'never really got started but wouldn't fucking finish.' They were pretty pissed off - didn't sleep for more than 24 hours after ingestion. Interestingly, both are cokeheads, but felt no desire for coke while on the '6-APB' - they were doubtful about the contents of the pellets, and as contents of uk 'coke' are very doubtful these days, didn't want to mix unknowns.

They were so unimpressed that both offered me their remaining pellets free - and these guys don't give drugs away. I declined.

I know this has said been before, but reading of people mixing MDAI/Meph/Meth and then trying pellets for the first time - or deciding 'hey, I know, I'll try it for the first time at my gf's birthday celebration' et cetera just makes me groan. Basic harm minimisation: allergy dose, then low-active dose, preferably with a sober/just stoned sitter, in a quiet place free from cops and bouncers, with ready access to phones and medical attention, using no other stims or psychs in cocktail - except weed - till experienced with the substance. As opposed to 'I've never tried this stuff before - I'll throw it on top of three other RCs and hope for the best.'

Isn't a little soon to be trying cocktails of this stuff? Whatever it is?

 

[blobbymahn]

2 days after ingestion of 3.5 pills, I've had terrible brain zaps all day.

This could be to do with the fact I got an hours sleep last night and I get similar zaps when I'm absolutely knackered, or could be a side effect.

Still shitting absolute devil piss too, boxers are full of sudocrem skidmarks.

hello everyone,
as you can see im new to BL however i've been reading 6 apb threads for past month or so trying to make my mind up if i should try it or not. from reading various trip reports, it seems to have similar effects on everyone BUT intresting thing is the time taken to come up. some ppl say +30-45 min after ingestion where as others imply time taken to come up to the peak can be +2-3 hours after ingestion. i know this would depend on size/weight/active ingriedent/amount of food consumed prior but would these factors really make such a big difference?
Also by the looks of it, it seems more reasonable to take around 50-70 mgs and thn redose if needed to avoid nausea and other overwhelming effects, is that right?

I felt the innitial effects about 45 mins in, but took 2-3 hours to level out and peak. Slow come up.

 

[lolcat313]

2 days after ingestion of 3.5 pills, I've had terrible brain zaps all day.

This could be to do with the fact I got an hours sleep last night and I get similar zaps when I'm absolutely knackered, or could be a side effect.

Still shitting absolute devil piss too, boxers are full of sudocrem skidmarks.




I felt the innitial effects about 45 mins in, but took 2-3 hours to level out and peak. Slow come up.

Interestingly, one or two days after having consumed 5 pellets during a session I had felt some brain zaps, though not frequently nor uncomfortably. This was only briefly experienced when resting in the evening and has since passed. I recall having experienced this with mephedrone after a heavy session, though comparatively this time round was far from the severity as that caused by the mephedrone. This is definitely a worthy symptom of concern, though this seems the only negative symptom I've yet experienced with the pellets having not felt nausea, headache, pains or aches, etc as described by some others. On the other hand my prior experience with powdered sample had produced some initial nausea and a following headache.

 

[MurphyClox]

286834-84-2 (racemic hydrochloride salt) <---- I believe this to be a fake number

All the cas numbers relating to 6-APB are fake.

Saying that i haven't found anything verifyable about this chemical....

Complete bullshit! What makes you guys think that the provided numbers are false? The CAS-numbers are absolutely correct. Period! You better provide some evidence next time you call somebody a liar.


For all those of you who are so anxious to get/taste some 6-APB I can only recommend this thread at ADD, where it was clearly shown that not a single batch out there is clean. You are all putting yourself at risk by eating impure, dirty crap.

For the same reason all this discussion about jaw-clenching etc. is pretty pointless as nobody can tell you if it is 6-APB that causes the effects or any of the impurities or an adulterant.

And why the fuck are you accepting pellets??? This is highly suspicious, as the preparation protocol of this substance leads doubtlessly to clean, colourless crystals. Well, at least if done by a skilled chemist.
Is anybody here caring for his health? I can't believe it...


- Murphy

 

[logical]

Don't know if this information could be usefull. Don't have read anything about it here on BL.

There were a lot of guesses about the question, why lilly has had a patent on this.

Well, benzofuran and dibenzofuran-derivates, are widely known in pharma- and
medical sience.They are known to have effects to the bloodflow an vessels in the brain.
As far as I can remeber, a couple of weeks ago I have read on a german website,
that lilly has done research on treating seizures of the brain and also bulemia due to the anoretic effects of the drug.

This effect on the brain, could have been responsible for the headache some of us expirienced.

It's just a guess...

Further information about the research of the different dervates could be found
on pubmed.

 

[marky123]

You are all putting yourself at risk by eating impure, dirty crap.



And why the fuck are you accepting pellets??? This is highly suspicious, as the preparation protocol of this substance leads doubtlessly to clean, colourless crystals. Well, at least if done by a skilled chemist.
Is anybody here caring for his health? I can't believe it...


- Murphy

Good point but one that has been made a hundred times on just about every thread in bl for years. Just accept that there is always going to be so called reckless lab rats(that do may i add provide some useful info)just as there is vendors and alike. you must know this?


Another good point there about the preparation protocol leading to colourless crystals, makes you wonder why the pellets were completely different colour with coloured flakey bits in them.

P.S Hope i did not break forum rules with description.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Basic harm minimisation: allergy dose, then low-active dose, preferably with a sober/just stoned sitter, in a quiet place free from cops and bouncers, with ready access to phones and medical attention, using no other stims or psychs in cocktail - except weed - till experienced with the substance. As opposed to 'I've never tried this stuff before - I'll throw it on top of three other RCs and hope for the best.'

whilst i totally agree, i also think that in the case of this particular substance, this advice is hard to follow. mainly the low active dose bit- if it varies so much then you can take a 'low' dose and get totally wrecked, though i suspect it'll be more often the other way round. issues like this are putting me off.

also i think that cocktails arise about an hour or 2 in, when your judgements clouded, its not doing much, so you feel the need to top it up. this is how all the stupid amounts/cocktails of drugs i've ever taken have arisen.

finally, since nobody has any idea whatsoever what this stuff really does to your body, doctors aren't trained to deal with it. so, if needed, wouldn't the medical attention, whilst slightly comforting, be pointless?

sorry if this sounds negative about your post, i'm more expressing frustration that harm minimisation seems very difficult in this context because of the newness and variance.

 

[invert]

Regarding the odour of this material; contrary to the strong TCP odour of my 6-APB pellets, I now have a sample of white fluffy material that is apparently also 6-APB and which is near-odourless, with perhaps a subtly smokey odour if anything.

Many apologies if this post is unacceptable; I'm under the impression that description of the appearance of a chemical is within the bounds of acceptable posting.

 

[invert]

finally, since nobody has any idea whatsoever what this stuff really does to your body, doctors aren't trained to deal with it. so, if needed, wouldn't the medical attention, whilst slightly comforting, be pointless?

Pointless? I doubt it. If, say, stroke or heart attack ensue, there exist standard medical treatments regardless of the drug that caused the attack. Yes, it's conceivable that those treatments might interact with the novel drug, but without knowing either way, it'd still be worth doing something to minimize damage, surely?

Besides, it chemically and behaviourally clearly belongs to a class of broadly amphetamine-related psychedelics and stimulants and probably entactogens; so it is a type of chemical about which is known quite a lot, even if the specific chemical itself is unknown.

And at worst you will, by getting medical attention and telling them what you took, help to add an early data point to the body of medical understanding of the effects and possible treatments for this drug, thus helping the rest of us for the future, regardless of your death or brain damage.

 

[benson7]

I ate 3 pellets over the course of Saturday night and Sunday evening and found they provided a mild yet long lasting head high and very faint body warmth which faintly reminded of MDMA.

They was however almost no energy or euphoria to it and I was ultimately dissapointed. The positive effects were felt in conjuction to a drowsy drunk like feeling.

The first hour of the come up on the second and third pellet provided very slight hallucinations. The first pellet only provided a slight effect and a second was consumed after 3 hours.

The come down was mild but the following Monday evening, quite unexpectantly, I suffered a much increased heart rate out of the blue and had to lay down for an hour.

I don't think I'll bother with this substance again.

 

[acholmes2000]

I ordered one pellet but recieved four by mistake.

Ate 1 crushed pellet at 3.00pm at 4.00pm nothing was happening so decided to walk the 5.5 mile round trip to pick up some weed and possible bring up the effects of the pellet due to exercise.

About a mile from home 2 hours 45 mins in, I began sweating and became extremely hungry this soon lead to feeling disorientated and naseaus. I was desperate to get home as walking around in public felt very wrong just wanted to sit down.

When i got home I ate another half pellet as was worried I may just be on the threshhold due to lack of any positive effects.

At 3 hours in almost exactly it hit me! I felt for lack of a better word FLOORED! vision became foggy/smokey/blurred. Body felt heavy and i couldnt really do anything but sit on my chair staring ...i wasnt expecting this at all and it really took me by suprise just as my first dose of magic mushrooms did!

After an hour was able to move around again and danced around my room whilst flicking through my favourite rolling tunes on youtube this went on for maybe 4 hours time seemed to flyby. Was definately euphoric and happy also enjoyed chatting on msn etc but did not feel the silly over-empathy like I do on E.

The next phase was mongy and sedate, lasted around 3 hours and i smoked lots of weed. Music became a little irritating and resorted to reading online and watching tv. couldnt sleep all nite but went to bed and rested.

finally got to sleep around 7am until 12am and had to work a couple hours which was fuzzy had a couple caffiene tabs to up my alertness during work which helped.

All in all lovely experience not sure i'd like to go out on it though certainly not at this dose I look forward to trying again soon

Hangover was a fuzzy head and a slight seratonin crash a couple days later leading to remenicing over past etc but not as intense as MDMA crash.

Felt very easy on the body heart was not racing and no short term organ aches and pains.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

hey guys could anyone with concerns regarding the after effects of 6-apb on there bodies after taking pellets please post here

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=518015

hearing bad things about this shits toxity and first hand i know this stuff is hard on the body