Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

[Law]

If I don't have a milligram scale, what's the safest way to dose it out, accurately? Would it be to make some form of solution?

I'm sure the answer is in here, SOME WHERE... But, I'm feeling lazy today..

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Anybody?

 

[Pegasus]

^The solution is the best way; this thread is literally filled with ways to prepare the phenazepam, though. Just read a few pages and you'll know all you need to know on the topic. If you have any questions on any specifics, be sure to ask.

The odd thing about this drug is that I keep hearing about a huge half life. What makes me curious is that about every scientific site I saw about phenazepam shows that the mean halflife is 60 hours. Now is this the half life + active metabolites, or just the halflife of phenazepam, or maybe even the half life + conjugated phenazepam? All very confusing and considering 60 hours isnt even really THAT long. The combined half life on diazepam is ~200 hours. Phenobarb like 100 hours. I guess you can say its long. So redosing may leave the body full of inactive metabolites which can be bad, but if the metabolites or active can be good in that it will cause more of a high than a build up of useless chemical, but there is always a draw back which would be possibally a prolonged amnesia.

sp0r

...As for the long half life, the metabolite is likely what gets you, as with diazepam. The drug closest to phenazepam is actually not lorazepam, but delorazepam, which has a very, very long elimination half-life (both it and its metabolites). Phenazepam shares this quality, as these two drugs are as similar as two benzos can be (and not be the same drug).

 

[Pegasus]

Thank you very much pegasus, out of curiosity, is the 2mg dose (and I know this is a very tricky question) kind of equal to 2mg clonazepam? And believe me I understand that there is huge differences in benzos being half lives, chemistry, hypnotic, sedative and the rest of the intristic values , etc. But if you could compare that two mg dosage to any other benzo (I have a really high benzo tolerance) what would you compare it to? Thanks for the answer and I know this probably was stated already numerous times and I apreciate that you answered it anyways, Im just in a hurry, you understand .
sp0r

I'd say (the equivalencies agree) that 2mg lorazepam is fairly similar to 1mg alprazolam that lasts for a good bit longer.

 

[FreeThePod]

Anybody?

Volumetric dosing. Propylene glycol. Pipette to measure doses.

I'd be more specific but it's been covered on what seems like almost every page in this throw together.

In other news.. I'm receiving 500mg today or Monday. Using volumetric dosing, seeing as last time I tried phenazepam with a 100mg baggie I blacked out for a long time. Going to be a lot more responsible this time around, and am hoping to get my alcohol use to zero with the help of the phenazepam. Just have to make sure I don't get addicted to benzos 8)

 

[sp0r]

here is some info on phenazepam:
Apperance: a white or white-crystalline powder
Solubility: Do not dissolve in water or ether, micro-soluble 95% Ethanol, Dissolved in Chloroform
Confirmed: For the importation of 0.02g sample in 10 mL of sodium hydroxide solution to return 10 minutes, with moist red litmus test of ammonia blue; using hydrochloric acid, filtered, filtrate right bromide is a reflection characteristics of A.
Melting Point: 225-230 Degrees C
Clarity: .1g of samples dissolved in 5mL chloroform transparent clarification
more info later

 

[Levvytation]

An article from some medical journal. OK its not about phen but valium/booze, bur rather than start a thread I thought I'd stick it here as it is sort of related...

Ethanol and Oral Diazepam Absorption



N Engl J Med 1977; 296:186-189January 27, 1977
Abstract

Despite widespread use and abuse of ethanol and diazepam in combination, little is known about the effects of ethanol on diazepam absorption. We administered diazepam (0.07 mg per kilogram of body weight) with water and with 30 ml of 50 per cent ethanol to seven normal volunteers. Plasma diazepam levels were significantly higher at 60 minutes (P<0.05), 90 minutes (P<0.01), 120 minutes (P<0.01), and 240 minutes (P<0.01) when diazepam was administered with ethanol than with water alone. Since maximum mean plasma diazepam levels after combined ingestion with ethanol were nearly twice as high than after diazepam and water (373 ng per milliliter versus 197 ng per milliliter at 60 minutes) we conclude that ethanol enhanced diazepam absorption. (N Engl J Med 296:186–189, 1977

*edit*Conclusion, benzo's (including phenazepam) can be taken with booze IN MODERATION

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

here is some info on phenazepam:
Apperance: a white or white-crystalline powder
Solubility: Do not dissolve in water or ether, micro-soluble 95% Ethanol, Dissolved in Chloroform
Confirmed: For the importation of 0.02g sample in 10 mL of sodium hydroxide solution to return 10 minutes, with moist red litmus test of ammonia blue; using hydrochloric acid, filtered, filtrate right bromide is a reflection characteristics of A.
Melting Point: 225-230 Degrees C
Clarity: .1g of samples dissolved in 5mL chloroform transparent clarification
more info later

it can also have a yellowish tint to it also, i have received some in the past and it was just as good or better than bright white phenazepam..but i get like a half kilo at a time so its easy to see for me but once it's in the little baggies its difficult to even tell. and also for the solubility, what about good ole' propylene glycol? saw the person above you already said it.

 

[[M] 30]

I like DO NOT understand Ppl that ONLY like Benzo's , I mean I have A bottle of 30 .25 mg Triazolam and 90 30mg Flurazepams and like they are okay but they just dont do much for me

 

[caldoche1]

[M] 30: I like DO NOT understand Ppl that ONLY like Benzo's , I mean I have A bottle of 30 .25 mg Triazolam and 90 30mg Flurazepams and like they are okay but they just dont do much for me

Don't like 'em? Then send them all to me!! I'll give them a nice home I promise

Just kidding. Asking for sources or substances is strictly VERBOTEN. I know the rules

C1

 

[caldoche1]

Speaking about Phenazepam, I have YET to find a PURE product. Even w/o a tolerance, I have to take 30mg just to FEEL it. That's not right at all. Many suppliers buy direct from China for SUPER cheap, then feel the need to cut their product and selling people garbage. Hopefully my new source is true o his word. Will find out sometime today hopefully...

C1

 

[FreeThePod]

Are pipettes on store shelves or do you have to get them over the counter? I know you need to ask for needless syringes, but what about pipettes?

Just got my 500mg and already have 100ml of solution weighed out, going to weigh 100mg and mix them. Thanks in advance.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

but someone needs to try this out *if they have extra money* if you've been taking phenazepam regularly, go to the store and buy an at home drug test that tests for benzos and oxycodone.. i did it a while ago on probation and it comes up negative for benzos but somehow shows up as oxycodone.. and i just got an oui/dwi and i had been taking phenazepam and their lab test came back i was taking oxycodone not phenazepam.. it just dont make sense to me.. i know this post is almost not allowed but its not a drug testing question really, its just something wierd that happens with the drug tests and phenazepam..


Mods-UA if needed, i just wanted to know if its only me.