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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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Alright. I dissolved Phenazepam powder (though not all of it, as some was stuck to the bag and some got on my fingers which whatever I couldnt sift off into the solvent I washed off in the sink) in 190 proof ethanol and used a dropper, measured out a mL into a bottle of water and shook it, drank it slowly. Resulted in about a 4 hour creep up to some heavy fatigue.

At first it made me very tired. I resisted the temptation to sleep and felt a decent buzz shortly after and the tiredness wore off gradually.

I now am awake after sleeping for about 6 hours (not blacking out). No amnesia to speak of, and I feel a nice and numb afterglow. I probably won't use this for recreation too much, there isn't much in the way of euphoria.

I notice a sort of strobe effect in terms of psychoactivity. Sometimes I feel completely sober, and then sometimes the Phenazepam afterglow starts tugging me again.
 
I think this is the thread I was reading and posting in before, just it has sucked up all other threads and been renamed.

I was planning to taper off phenazepam, it hadn't gotten out of control or anything but I didn't want to develop a huge habit or especially have it floating around in my system when I go under for surgery. It was only meant for necessary anxiety use even if it did get into my morning rituals and my "I might as well be something else but sober" thoughts.

So I was going to taper off but recently I got some JWH-018 and a couple of the others, not taken any (except the first try of JWH-018 as a precaution) and haven't missed it. JWH-018 isn't making me anxious like it is others and I'm prone to anxiety.

Why mention it? Maybe any weed related stuff might help some of you if you want to cut down a bit.
 
I first ordered some back in february, it was the real deal. Eyeballed it, mixing with other benzo's, booze and I even took methedrone so I'm told. Basically I 'lost' about 6 weeks with just mixed memories, lost my wallet & upset my family big-time. The phenaz bag was empty. Still paying for it now.

But I enjoyed it i think
 
IMO, phenazepam is about the worst benzo, and there are some bad ones anyway so that says a lot, if u are looking for something cheap try etizolam
 
i usually check in every once in a while and throw in my obligatory "phenazepam sucks shit" post. why? the shit fucking took a month of my life away that i will never remember and almost landed me back in rikers island. i cant stress enough how horrible this drug is, especially in pure powder form. christ.
 
Just wanted to give a mini update. I've been using it daily for about a week in tiny doses. I like how it completely murders fear and anxiety. I get a buzz from it while in its haze sometimes.

I have social anxiety disorder. Going out at all gives me anxiety. With this I feel great.

I sleep a lot better and heavier than before as well.

Being mindful of the addictive nature, I won't be taking any for next week.

Etizolam sounds interesting but is very expensive and even though its unscheduled I worry about US customs seizing it on behalf of the FDA or something.
 
i love this chem i usualy take 3 - 5mg but thats after starting low at 1mg etc. usualy take 5mg just to chill out at night but thats cos i have a small tolernce to it. start off at 1-2mg
 
If I took 1mg only for sleep and not a buzz will it make me sleep longer than 8hrs? I usually take 5mg diazepam to do this but sometimes need 10mg.

When you do wake up are you heavily groggy next day and is it a struggle to get out of bed.

Can it be used for coming off a speedy drug like 4mmc or mdpv?
 
actually yeah, i think its only practical use is for coming off stims. definetly will help you. just be careful with dosing.
 
It works well like other strong benzos in pretty much every regard; the drawback is the very long half-life. From my experience with it, the half-life seems longer than diazepam, even....
 
just be careful with dosing.
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^That.

I eyeballed it with my first batch, big mistake even though I was careful...2nd big mistake...mixing with other benzo's & drinking heavily.

I've ordered since (different source) and it was cut to fuck, to the point that eyeballing didn't matter. A small teaspoon full was required just to feel it.

Conclusion...I'm not going to bother with it again. I've heard good things about pure diazepam powder, might investigate that further.
 
rangrz said:
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it dissolves nicely into propylene gylcol too..which is easy to get.
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Im sorry I didnt have time to read alot of the thread. My package is arriving soon. Yes it is highly soluble in propylene glycol, my question being where can I get that? Am i confusing it with polyethylene glycol? I am receiving 2000mgs very soon and have a high tolerance, dont want to overdose, and dont want to underdose. If this hasnt been mentioned yet I have heard of a method to get ~1mg (depending on the powder). Moisten the tip of a toothpick, and dip the tip into the powder. It seems to be very unreliable but that just goes to show how tiny a bit of powder you are dealing with. Please be careful.

Regards,
sp0r
 
^Yes, the toothpick method is certainly better than nothing. With this method, you still have too much variation for really consistent dosing, but with some practice, I'm sure someone could get within +/- 20mg of the same amount they usually get on the toothpick. Like I said, that's too much variation really really to be dosing yourself regularly, but it certainly works for a short period of time (or intermittent periods).

My biggest advice when doing this is to get a small amount that you can use as a standard, and then just do multiple dips or whatever of the toothpick to get an amount that is more accurately dosed. What I mean by this is that a glob of multiple milligrams at the end of a toothpick is going to be harder to be consistent with than a light dusting of the bottom 1/4 inch or so of the toothpick, which if I remember correctly gave effects around 2mg depending on the toothpick used...
 
Thank you very much pegasus, out of curiosity, is the 2mg dose (and I know this is a very tricky question) kind of equal to 2mg clonazepam? And believe me I understand that there is huge differences in benzos being half lives, chemistry, hypnotic, sedative and the rest of the intristic values , etc. But if you could compare that two mg dosage to any other benzo (I have a really high benzo tolerance) what would you compare it to? Thanks for the answer and I know this probably was stated already numerous times and I apreciate that you answered it anyways, Im just in a hurry, you understand :) .
sp0r
 
This is a miracle for getting off benzos, one week tapering down with phenaz and I am done with benzo's done, no withdrawals.
 
Pegasus said:
It works well like other strong benzos in pretty much every regard; the drawback is the very long half-life. From my experience with it, the half-life seems longer than diazepam, even....
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The odd thing about this drug is that I keep hearing about a huge half life. What makes me curious is that about every scientific site I saw about phenazepam shows that the mean halflife is 60 hours. Now is this the half life + active metabolites, or just the halflife of phenazepam, or maybe even the half life + conjugated phenazepam? All very confusing and considering 60 hours isnt even really THAT long. The combined half life on diazepam is ~200 hours. Phenobarb like 100 hours. I guess you can say its long. So redosing may leave the body full of inactive metabolites which can be bad, but if the metabolites or active can be good in that it will cause more of a high than a build up of useless chemical, but there is always a draw back which would be possibally a prolonged amnesia.

sp0r
 
If I don't have a milligram scale, what's the safest way to dose it out, accurately? Would it be to make some form of solution?

I'm sure the answer is in here, SOME WHERE... But, I'm feeling lazy today.. =D

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HdoubleODeezy said:
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Homeydontplaythat: im already addicted to benzos and have been for a while now, so thats why i screw around with phenazepam. cuz even if i dont use it, im still dependant on them. and besides, it helps me cut down on my kpin usage. :)
don't get me wrong phen is great. but as with everything that is great, moderation is key. and benzo w/d is bad. real bad mm kay.
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I would have to say that benzo withdrawal is not just the worst w/d but possibally the worst experience in life period. Sometimes when I am withdrawaling from my klonopin and temazepam I wish that I was dead. Hopefully this chem will help me taper off. I cant stand being a prisoner to these pills which have little payoff in the way off recreation. I have bad anxiety tho so that is where I receive my euphoria. They are also good at potentiating opiates which is also a dangerous operation. I almost sometimes believe that the pharm companies made benzos just to keep people addicted. Housewives were addicted to benzos in the 60's, now in modern day we have benzo's that are 20 times as potent i.e. 1mg clonazepam ~ 20mg diazepam. Sheesh.
I cant wait to find out more info on the metabolites of phenazepam.

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