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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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Please read this thread I've had a lot of exp with the brown smelly mdai. Don't injest it I've posted warnings about this.

If the white crap is rubbish then post up warnings. It's not worth risking yours and everyone elses health.

The brown stuff is discounted because of purity issues
 
info.trance said:
Please read this thread I've had a lot of exp with the brown smelly mdai. Don't injest it I've posted warnings about this. If the white crap is rubbish then post up warnings. It's not worth risking yours and everyone elses health.
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The vendor in question has repeatedly publicly challenged customers to post their own NMR analysis of their product, even offering to host the reports on their website alongside theirs. It's particularly interesting that with some people so passionate in their despise of this particular product, and some pretty wild assertions being made, no one anywhere has yet produced a single NMR which contradicts the vendor's.

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The brown stuff is discounted because of purity issues
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Is that what the vendor told you, or are you drawing your conclusion based on the same evidence you have that their product is impure?

Please -- less hearsay and hysteria -- more facts and figures.
 
Note: I'm not an english native speaker, so my peculiar grammar and vocabulary might not actually be part of this TR. ;) Also, this is the first time I take anything other than alcohol and coffeine, so some of this might be boring for you.


I ordered 1g of the white stuff, collected it from the post office this morning. It almost doesn't smell at all, but tastes absolutely VILE. I never tried salted vinegar, but this is how I would imagine it.:D Actually the taste that was closest to it that I know is sperm - and lets not dwell on the fact that I know that. ;)

So, here is my runing commentary on my trip. I tryed to take not of everything as it happened, but times are estimates.
9:30 - Picked a little bit up with my fingertip from the side of the bag. I lick it of, to see if I get an allergic reaction or anything.
10:50 - Eyeballed ~50mg and took it in a glass of water (did not completely disolve).
11:30 - Felt something very subtle in the background... or maybe I imagined it. Decided that this might be the real deal, or at worst its not gonna kill me at higher doses.:D
11:45 - Eyeballed another ~100mg. Smaller glass this time. Particles were very clearly not being dissolved. Situation improved when I stirred with a knive. No visible particles in the drop that was left on the knive, but it tasted like the rest.
12:00 - Having read the other TRs I tryed an experiment: watching porn.:D It was ok, but somehow the background music and the little 'twitch' of the website's logo (probably due to bad encoding, I guess thats amateur pron for you :D ) were more interesting. So I tried laying on the bed and masturbating. But my thought kept wandering towards discussions and cuddling with the women I imagined.:D Just lay there for a couple of minutes with my dick out and being happy.
12:30 - Observations: I have spiderwebs under the ceiling, my walls should be repainted, there is dust an my cupboardand. I knew all that before, but at that moment it was glaringly obvious. Also had a couple of insight into my love life, what I want from whom and what I would have to do/say to try to solve the mess I made last week. (And thats all you are gonna get on that front.:P)
12:50 - I give up masturbating and get back to my desk. It didn't feel much different from other times, maybe just a tiny little bit more intense, but I did get distracted and loose wood fast.:D Normally I'm a sexually active guy, but I havn't had the 'urge' (if you know what I mean ;) ) all day, anyways.
Well, back to the TR: I put in my headphones and start my iPod. TATU never sounded this good. Same for everything else - I have it on shuffle - and I can actually follow several different 'instruments' (including and most pronounced singing) at the same time, with much more clarity than when I tried to follow even one of those before.
There is a clearness, calmness and presence of mind that I really really like. Also I can't seem to get angry/annoyed, even though I noticed I left my iPod connector cable in the office and there seems to be no good torrent of katrina and the waves on the whole internet.:D
13:30 - Just unclenched my jaw.:D (I think I) Have to conciously stop myself from clenching my teeth.
13:34 - Just got a phone call, I'm finally getting payed for a job I did a month ago. :) I just have to sent something from the office, so I need to leave soon.

Two things I observed the whole time: 1) I had a light headache before ingesting the first dose that went away at some point, but I always fellt some kind of "pressure" on my skull. It was especially bad (and in the front) when I noticed I clenched my jaw, and seems to go away slowly. So it might just be the muscles. 2) I am tired. I was tired before (finals coming up SOON) and I don't feel any sleepyer than before, its just very obvious to me.

Its 13:46 now and I realy have to get going soon, before my iPod rouns out of battery.:D

Final conclussions: This stuff seems to be genuine MDAI, its aboslutly what I had hoped for and I can definitly see me doing some of this stuff before going out or even when having a quiet evening with friends. I obviously have no way to compare this to any other drug or trip, but it didn't seem to make me feel anything that was outside of the 'normal'. Its just happyness, insight and 'being at ease' in powder form.:D
OK, 13:53 now and I'm leaving... although I wouldn't mind sitting on my lawn reading or just bathing in the sun.:D


edit: I might have overdone the :D -smileys, but I just felt/feel that happy. ;) :D
 
Then I will try to phrase it in a clearer way: No, it did not have a positive effect. In the sense that it did not make me want or enjoy sex/masturbation any more than what might have been the case without it.


continuation of TR:
14:00 I took the bicycle... bad Idea... no, great Idea, but I had been on the hiking trip from hell (8 fucking hours!) on Saturday. I felt every muscle telling me how bad an idea it was to use it so soon. :D I noticed that even though the music seemed louder and more prominent than ever, I could hear the cars around me much MUCH clearer, my whole situational awareness was (or seemed) better than ever. I particularly noticed that I noticed more stuff along the way. Things that probably had been there the whole time, but always only in the background, filtered out by my consciousness. Especially people, their faces and smiling women drew my eyes and thoughts. Smiling people made me smile, people giving me the right of way made me smile... yeah, I was pretty happy today. :)
There were many people in the office, I had no problem talking to them. Basicly I was a very vibrant and 100% positive/at ease/relaxed version of myself. Not that I have a problem in that regard, but I mean that I had no problem having normal conversations, in fact it was even easier than ever.
Later on I had no problem playing (and winning at) kubb, a swedish game that consists of throwing wooden sticks at wooden blocks. By that time I was drinking club mate, an ice tea with high amounts of caffeine. The barista (is that the term? :D ) in the café was cute and smiled, as did I. :) ...Which is not different from any other time, it made me even happier today. I also waved and smiled at a guy that I knew who was drinking his coffee in that café, something I might not actually have done on a 'normal' day.
Told a co worker more about past relationships than I would have otherwise, but I never let anything slip that I would want to keep secret.
15:00-16:00 - Somewhere around here the effects had begun to decline. I actually noticed it, as at that moment I was writing an IM massage to the woman I had the friendship endangering misunderstanding with. I cleared it up, but I noticed that my resolve was getting ever weaker. (I had roughly known what the problem was and what I had to say since Thursday, but my pride stopped me from saying it.)
17:53 - I start to write this post. The effects are fully gone.

Am I the only one who noticed that the world seemed to go to 105% brightness/sharpness when the other effects began and than back to normal when they stopped? :D
I also had "oxygene 4" stuck in my head since around 14 o'clock, even though the only time I listened to it today was on the way to the post office.
edit: I thought my voice sounded different, but nobody seemed to notice.
 
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the white mdai i got i can say with some confidence was not mdai.

it wasnt the so called sparkle version. it was from a different vendor (a fairly high profile 1)

its active but with hard to describe feelings, good and bad emotions right on the edge. its not anything ive taken before. a psychedelic edge is clearly present and has a long duration. the inital come up is felt in say 30 mins then once you hit a level it eases off and lasts for a 3 to 4 hours but the tale end of the experience can be a little annoying as i feel alert an not able to sleep an pretty wiped out with some trails in vision. they are mild but annoy me as field of vision isnt clear. i still felt different in some way at +12 hours. weird stuff which i happened to like but im sure lots wouldnt and its very annoying i dunno what it is.
 
^^ That sounds exactly like the stuff I had recently, in the end I was glad to see it gone as it wasn't what I exactly call a pleasant experience and the feeling like I need to run to loo even though when there I couldn't go was incredibly annoying.

It certainly was strong though and snorting it worked too, I'll never be using this again as the tan stuff around when it started to be sold did very little and this new stuff is an unpleasant high.
 
Well I ingested a bit yesterday using the wet finger method. It tasted rather nasty. However it felt quite nice. Warm and fuzzy. Definitely a mood enhancer. It is the tan coloured one from what people here allude to as a reputable source. I drank a bit of wine but it destroys your taste buds.
 
Had 300mg's of this, was utter turd, I fell asleep.

Not becuae it made me I might add, more because i was bored and felt sleep would be a better high.

How anyone is rating this stuff is beyond me, and it was the so called better stuff too.

I guess I should have twigged when people used the term mood enhancer, seriously just say it's crap.
 
Have you actually READ what others have posted in this thread? What else did you expect when everyone who has had the real stuff said its an antidepressant, not a stimulant?
MDAI won't get you high, MDAI won't make you horny, MDAI won't make you bounce of the walls. If you want those effects, MDAI simply isn't the right thing for you. Don't waste your money. ;)
Everyone has to decide for himself, I'm most definitly going to order more of that stuff and intend to cut back on alcohol consumption at parties.
 
Well, it makes me horny, but not in that dirty meph way.

I certainly don't find it sedating, though it's not actually stimulating either. Maybe motivating is the word, coming from the improved mood. Always makes me want to communicate or go out for a late night walk in a way that I haven't had since the early days of meph. (Meph eventually made me too paranoid to go out!)

I want to try it on a night out. Going out with people from work this weekend and am tempted to take some along... Still worried that some of them sense I'm 'on something'; certain colleagues seem to pick up on it very easily!
 
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plomari said:
Have you actually READ what others have posted in this thread? What else did you expect when everyone who has had the real stuff said its an antidepressant, not a stimulant?
MDAI won't get you high, MDAI won't make you horny, MDAI won't make you bounce of the walls. If you want those effects, MDAI simply isn't the right thing for you. Don't waste your money. ;)
Everyone has to decide for himself, I'm most definitly going to order more of that stuff and intend to cut back on alcohol consumption at parties.
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To be fair there was a mixed opinion, defo read some say it was very good, even one guy saying it was his fav legal high, but it had literally zero effect, no mood elevation, if your telling me it's an antidepressent how come people who aren't depressed are taking it if it's common knowledge, I knew it wasn't gonna get me blasted/horny/bounce of walls, if I wanted that I'd go buy some MDMA and get stuck into some Gibble I got sat in my drawer, I thought it would be at best avg and at worst poor, was more to completely eliminate it as even a potential thing to do, why get so defensive for me saying it is shit. :D

Aren't you fun taking an anti depressant at parties, rave on brother.

Anyway carry on jumping to your own conclusions. %)
 
My Friend took 75mg about 2 hours ago but has got nothing at all from it.

He has however had a couple of beers, could this be affecting it?

He also took some Tramadol this morning when he got up, for a sore back he has.

Is it worth taking any more, will there be increased effects or should my friend just flush it?

Cheers
 
billip said:
My Friend took 75mg about 2 hours ago but has got nothing at all from it.
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What does it look like?

Brown/tan powder - 250mg bombed was a spot-on dose for me.

White crystals - total crap, no matter how much I dosed (up to the 1g).
 
somebody else noticed stomach pain and discomfort from brown mdai?
i noticed that the stuff is pretty corrosive on mucoses and membranes (noticed on tongue and lips after licking some of the brown mdai hcl)
i wonder if that's caused by the impurity or is a standard effect from mdai.

tan powder had also stomach discomfort and pain as effects?
 
Didn't give me stomach problems, other than needing a few poos while it was kicking in. (Probably more placebo/excitement than the effect of the drug itself.) I'd wrap it in tissue and bomb rather than smear it round my mouth. ;)

Only bad side effect I got after 500mg was stim shakes, even though it's not meant to be a stim!
 
The plot thickens...

This lot of MDAI is very dark brown like cocoa powder rather than the tan stuff I had previously. Should I expect anything different from it?

Ahh, reading back through thread I can expect stomach ache.
 
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about stomach ache that just could be just me having stomach sensible to acids
however i'm worried it could be caused by some kind of impurity...let me know if this happens to you too. does yours have a salty/corrosive taste too?



however, i find the new brown batch(hcl) to be more potent than the brown freebase batch (or again.. maybe i'm becaming more sensitive?)

i've never tried the tan stuff..so i can't make comparison between the two


although it was found brown stuff to be 40% purity, i still find it very powerful, active at less than 100mgs, very pleasurable effects.
 
I'm up to 500mg of the brown stuff tonight (will have no more) and can't say it's doing much. (No stomach ache either.) I wonder if it's bunk or whether there's just a quick tolerance build-up?

I'd give mdai explicitly labelled as tan another chance, but otherwise I'm finished with this chem.
 
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