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Alkaloid contents vary between all tree's of the same species. The only way to find out the content is to do an extraction. Madenii has fairly good yields so you should do well.

I would follow lex's tek in full and not take short cuts if you wish to get all that you can from your bark.
 
I know that all trees vary but i was more specifically inquiring as to whether fallen bark is useful or as useful as fresh bark off the branch/trunk.

Also i simply do not have enough time to spend several hours over the stove. It's probably also worth mentioning that the people im living with would definitely not take kindly to me cooking drugs in the house no matter how good my argument :p

Could i possibly split the process up over several days by doing 1 step per day or something of the sort?

Im not particularly fussed with the overall purity or yield i just want to see some results as this will be my very first extraction and i probably wont be consuming the spice unless it looks pure :)
 
Fallen branch bark is fine unless it is very old.

You certainly can split the process up over several days and you probably will get more yield for doing so.

Using a camp stove outside is a good idea, so as not to stink up the house.

Good luck
 
Verybuffed said:
The way he has written it clearly makes it look I was the one giving out bad advice.
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Apologies my literacy and the ability to express through text is quite poor.


I didn't mean to imply you had given out bad advice, I was just making a poor attempt to point out, that i had felt like i wasn't the only one giving out bad advice.

Sorry for quoting you when i did that.
 
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PsiloSubNaut said:
^^We're all just giving what advice we have. Whether someone else interprets that as bad is up to them. We know where we stand :)

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MHRB is great for straight to base extraction's due to it's low fat content. Saving much hastle that is associated with the A-B extractions needed for acacia.

Nomans tek


Lazyman's tek

I like =D
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Can confirm MHRB STB is like a walk in the park ;)
 
picadore said:
Apologies my literacy and the ability to express through text is quite poor.


I didn't mean to imply you had given out bad advice, I was just making a poor attempt to point out, that i had felt like i wasn't the only one giving out bad advice.

Sorry for quoting you when i did that.
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It's all good mate, no dramas. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being portrayed as the bad guy when all I was trying to do was help.
 
hunuh said:
it is very prohibited ;)
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(comment in relation to MHRB)

Would you be able to cite some evidence? I have done extensive reading and cannot come up with any facts as to it being specifically listed as a border controlled substance.

Im aware anything containing a prohibited substance is illegal if it is intended to be used to an illegal activity, however, MHRB has other, quite legal uses. Consider someone pruning an Acacia in their backyard; are they breaking the law by picking up the fallen branches?
 
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Isn't MHRB usually sold as a fine powder? Can't think of any legal applications that would have, lol
 
Doing a google search I can't find anything on it's illegality or import restrictions, I don't really have time to look too hard right now though. All I found was members on ethnobotanical forums insisting it is illegal to import here. It wouldn't surprise me, even if it was only for quarantine reasons.
 
Is it possible to make an Ayahuasca style brew using an acacia species?
It was mentioned in a book im currently reading and i was just wondering if anyone had actually done this, as before then i'd never heard or even considered it.
 
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marley said:
(comment in relation to MHRB)

Would you be able to cite some evidence? I have done extensive reading and cannot come up with any facts as to it being specifically listed as a border controlled substance.

Im aware anything containing a prohibited substance is illegal if it is intended to be used to an illegal activity, however, MHRB has other, quite legal uses. Consider someone pruning an Acacia in their backyard; are they breaking the law by picking up the fallen branches?
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In regards to importing mimosa, from experience it seems it is more of a quarantine risk than it is an illegal material, with the right reason for importing it I'm sure there can be some sort of import permit, i know it has been mentioned before but there is the option of gamma-radiation to remove any quarantine risk but how that will effect the final product is anyone's guess.

From what I've read it is a very cheap and natural source for making pink dye
 
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If you look here it has a list of the import status for Mimosa Spp.

h**p://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8459519&intCommodityId=24795&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0

Apparently "Mimosa tenuiflorum" is listed in table 3 which is for the:

List of species requiring further evaluation/assessment. These species are currently prohibited entry because insufficient information is available on their risk status.
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Is that the same plant, and just a spelling mistake?
 
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^ It's a different variety that contains 1% DMT in the root bark. Looking it up now, interestingly it is orally active itself without the need for an MAOI-A as is normally found in Ayahuasca, possibly due to the presence of yuremamine, a phytoindole.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ It's a different variety that contains 1% DMT in the root bark. Looking it up now, interestingly it is orally active itself without the need for an MAOI-A as is normally found in Ayahuasca, possibly due to the presence of yuremamine, a phytoindole.
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I was under the impression it is called Mimosa tenuiflora...not Mimosa tenuiflorum. I was also under the impression it was the correct name for Mimosa Hostilis...?
 
Vextreme said:
If you look here it has a list of the import status for Mimosa Spp.

h**p://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8459519&intCommodityId=24795&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0

Apparently "Mimosa tenuiflorum" is listed in table 3 which is for the:



Is that the same plant, and just a spelling mistake?
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Furthermore, I do believe AQIS lists Mimosa tenuiflorum as prohibited for the end uses of seeds for sowing and nursery stock. Importing for other end uses, such as a dying agent, do not appear to be prohibited. Normal AQIS procedures would apply though (eg, gamma irradiation treatment)
 
I think the information most people quote in regards to the legal implications of importing MHRB comes from posts in the Shaman Australis community.

After a fair amount of reading, I don't think treated powdered MHRB is of any concern to AQIS. The real question is how Customs view importation. Is an item containing scheduled alkaloids automatically illegal to import/possess, even if it has legitimate end use applications? (quite possibly?)
 
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