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Thank Psilo that's all I'm trying to get across.

As far as I'm aware it's illegal to remove Acacia Obtusifolia from national parks in VIC.

As long as everyone stay out of national parks and away from small populations of trees and gives back x3 what they take away then everything will be happy.

Or as has been mentioned,go out after storms or contact your local tree lopper or just grow your own.

I'm sorry guys I'm just really passionate about plants and hate to see people destroy them just to get high.

I brought my first cactus 4 years ago with the intention of eating it but decided to plant it instead,it has since had 3 pups that i could separate then they would all each have pups and so on, before you know it you have so many you wont know what to do with them ;)

When you grow your own plants you get so much satisfaction plus the added bonus of that special bond you have with it that makes the fruit so much tastier.

Sorry to sound narky guys.
 
phase_dancer said:
Unless I've misidentified the local trees, Madenii's are certainly not rare around here. I'm sure the endangered species bit only applies to Victoria and places where massive deforestation has occurred. I've got suckers coming out all over my footpath where an old one was removed and there's another that the council will be all too willing to remove - it's at least 17 years old. The thing is, they don't live all that long, and as Psilo mentioned, eventually branches fall off. In the case of my sidewalk trees, they both pose/d a danger to motorists and pedestrians - large hanging branches split back at the trunk.

So I hope to have the second removed before the summer. Then it's a case of mowing down the multitude of suckers until I get around to applying the poison
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Where we live, you can almost be as vicious as you like to most native trees, and they'll still continue to give you cool fragrant (or in the case of some Melaleucas, not so fragrant) shade..... and attract birds including the crows and magpies, all of which results in bird shit covering the fences and paths :X They also block the better views, and send roots into underground services. Trees? In future I think I'll be getting around with a parasol and plant only short bushes with non-invasive roots =D ;)
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nature > motorists, fences, paths, underground services


why would you want to be vicious to native trees? everyone reading this thread should do volunteer tree planting <3
 
^^ he's talking about having tree roots damage his property. It's quite common and doesn't mean he is a nature hater.

Sadly, we are an urbanized race that live in houses where trees once stood.

Should we all go back to hunter gathering and living in caves?

We should be nice to nature as we have truly fucked it with all 12 inches over the years.

I just can't see any body that has made an investment of hundreds of thousands of dollars on a house, going out of their way to save tree's that are damaging that investment.

To remove such tree's doesn't brand you an evil nature destroyer and if they contain DMT then all the better :)
 
The problem with reading text is that it doesn't show emotion or other gestures.

I believe P_D is a nature lover. He just doesn't want his investment and home damaged by trees that are growing everywhere in his local area.

Maybe I'm wrong *gives P_D evil stare and chains himself to P_D's trees* ;)
 
So what species are available from your local nursery that yield enough DMT?

I'd be v. interested in getting some seeds and caring for my own tree, rather than harvesting something else.
 
picadore said:
Oh yeah sorry, i forgot the collection of acacia is for legal uses isn't it 8)


And the illegal removal of native trees is good advice?
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I have never advised removing any trees or acacia species full stop. Read my posts again.
 
What's the argument over there?

haha, I like this on the dmt wiki:

Remember: You may have experienced Eternal Bliss and saw the Fractal All and Everything while interacting with Hyperspacial Beings, but....... The bills still have to be paid, the house still has to be broomed, the food still has to be cooked!
 
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cosdog said:
Remember: You may have experienced Eternal Bliss and saw the Fractal All and Everything while interacting with Hyperspacial Beings, but....... The bills still have to be paid, the house still has to be broomed, the food still has to be cooked!
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The amount of people i run into who struggle with this concept is amazing. Though i can completley relate as i too went through this 'twilight period', but you eventually come to understand that life is a balance on all fronts, and integrating these awe-inspiring experiences into the human condition is very much the purpose behind psychedelics.
 
Hey guys, i recently collected a large hunk of some acacia maidenii bark (fallen from the tree of natural causes). The tree that it had fallen from looked quite old compared to all the others and the the bark was very rough and quite thick (approx 3cm). I was wondering if the state in which i found this bark would affect how much of the desired alkaloids would remain.

Also, i was going to attempt the lextek extraction method http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/w/images/e/eb/Lextek_v1.pdf which seems fairly straight forward, however i'm going to have problems with the acid cook part which takes several hours on a stovetop. I was wondering if this step could be shortened somehow or whether it matters if the stew is not left cooking for as long as recommended.
 
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