Mr Wobble
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Thanks psoodOnym 
The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation
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Shambles
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I tend to agree with Psood0nym.
The HCl doing the rounds in the UK at the moment is one of the smoothest (especially in terms of GI issues) I have yet come across. It doesn't seem to have the intensity of the freebases I've had but as it's relatively gentle on the ol' guttywuts it shouldn't be a huge issue to adjust your dose to suit.
The only reason I would try to convert it to freebase is if I intended to smoke it (as is sometimes my wont) but if using other ROA I'd leave it as is and just fiddle with the dose to find your own personal sweet spot. Conversion is possible but unless you have particular reason to smoke (greatly reduced come-up being the main one for me since GI issues seem less of an issue with this batch) I personally probably won't be bothering other than maybe a tad for experimentation and variety.
The HCl doing the rounds in the UK at the moment is one of the smoothest (especially in terms of GI issues) I have yet come across. It doesn't seem to have the intensity of the freebases I've had but as it's relatively gentle on the ol' guttywuts it shouldn't be a huge issue to adjust your dose to suit.
The only reason I would try to convert it to freebase is if I intended to smoke it (as is sometimes my wont) but if using other ROA I'd leave it as is and just fiddle with the dose to find your own personal sweet spot. Conversion is possible but unless you have particular reason to smoke (greatly reduced come-up being the main one for me since GI issues seem less of an issue with this batch) I personally probably won't be bothering other than maybe a tad for experimentation and variety.
Mr Wobble
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Thanks Shambles - I've got some HCl winging its way to me right now...
Psychonautical
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i am the oppurtunity to acquire this substance,
given the fact that sense my accident, when the van hit me.
i've been feeling slightly detatched//depressed and i was wondering if the
therapeutic anti depressant effects are really as strong as most people claim.
i really am on the line here, i enjoy my visuals quite a bit.
but i could also acquire an assload of mdma for the same price which i know helps me sort out my feelings...
given the fact that sense my accident, when the van hit me.
i've been feeling slightly detatched//depressed and i was wondering if the
therapeutic anti depressant effects are really as strong as most people claim.
i really am on the line here, i enjoy my visuals quite a bit.
but i could also acquire an assload of mdma for the same price which i know helps me sort out my feelings...
Shambles
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Visuals are not too apparent with the grey HCl currently available in the UK (dunno 'bout elsewhere) but the antidepressant effects are still in full force. AMT is hands down the most effective antidepressant - in both the short and long term - I have ever encountered... and I have encountered a fair few. How useful (or indeed how risky) it would/could be in your situation I really couldn't say though. Hope you're feeling better 
Mr Wobble
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A quick question - and apologies, I'm sure this has been covered before, probably in this thread ('tis a long thread) - I've just read that AMT quickly degrades (oxidises) in aqueous solution.
So how quickly does it deteriorate?
Having no milligram scales I was intending to put the whole lot in solution for measuring accurate(-ish) doses. If the break down is that rapid looks like I'll have to think again.
So how quickly does it deteriorate?
Having no milligram scales I was intending to put the whole lot in solution for measuring accurate(-ish) doses. If the break down is that rapid looks like I'll have to think again.
psood0nym
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Plus aMT isn't reported to cause depression in the following days nearly as bad as MDMA. At the same time, though, MDMA is more of a sure thing due to its track record in therapy (the Russian use of aMT as an antidepressant doesn't mean much because the Soviets really didn't have their scientific shit together during its clinical tests so far as I've read). If you want to guarantee visuals I recommend combining it with DPT or 4-AcO-DMT, which are both combinations that have created blissful, life-affirming experiences rivaling any candy flip I've ever had.
For the price of the cheapest mg scales you buy insurance that saves you the trouble of worrying about it breaking down in solution. ...
Mr Wobble
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I know it kind of makes sense, but then part of me says cheap scales are probably a false economy, better to spend more and get something a bit more reliable and longer lasting - but then that would be adding considerable cost to what was hitherto a fairly cheap trial of something I may, or may not, take a shine to...
psood0nym
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^Assuming you can't sell the surplus off to friends, that you'll never need it for anything else, and that you can trust the starting weights the vendors tell you I guess. Frequent re-calibrations and testing test weight-retest consistency help to get pretty reliable readings out of even cheap $30 scales.
Shambles
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My £20 eBay specials have lasted well over a year and are still doing the job shockingly well. I even trust them to weigh out doses of 2C-E and the like where a mg or two either side can make all the difference cos they've never once let me down. Best. Investment. Ever.
Mr Wobble
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You're talking to a Yorkshireman here. Blood. Stone. etc..
I do see the sense in what you're both saying, thanks. As it happens I had a look on ebay earlier - looks like cheap mg scales are only available on import, so shipping would probably take a while.
I think someone I know has electronic scales, just not sure if they're sensitive in the mg range.
I do see the sense in what you're both saying, thanks. As it happens I had a look on ebay earlier - looks like cheap mg scales are only available on import, so shipping would probably take a while.
I think someone I know has electronic scales, just not sure if they're sensitive in the mg range.
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Shambles
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Ha! I actually deleted a token Yorkshireman comment from my post in case it was considered racist 
Honestly, they are well worth the £20 and take a week or so to ship from HK where most seem to come from. May not be quick enough to sate your appetite for a first taste of aMT but will be there for a long time to come. Do eeeeet.
Honestly, they are well worth the £20 and take a week or so to ship from HK where most seem to come from. May not be quick enough to sate your appetite for a first taste of aMT but will be there for a long time to come. Do eeeeet.
Mr Wobble
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Political correctness gone mad - you racialist!
Okay, I give in, I'll buy the bloody scales!
Right, no more derailing the thread from me and feel free to delete any of the above posts as you see fit Shambles (when you're fit
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Psychonautical
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i hope im not bumming anyone out here with my story.
Its just seriously i have never felt like this before in my life.
All of these people including the insurance people who are susposed to be against me
are like ooo you're so lucky to be alive. SO thankfully i am getting a nice settlement.
Luckily he didn't break my knees or else i would be getting lots more...lol.
like this is what i want...
IS AMT going to get in my face make me relive moments and strange memories a la 2c-e
or is it going to be one of those Happy Tactile but slightly philosophical trips that bring forth an effervescense because right now i feel like my bulbs are burnt out...
last time i got high was on June 9th. I took 10mg of 4-ho-dipt with 135mg of MDMA
my girlfriend and my roommate and i watched the imaginarium of doctor parnassus and Dead man with Johnny Depp by Jim Jarmusch just made a very open minded textural evening.
i got hit on the 21rst.
and i just want my light bulbs changed a refresh..
is AMT a gentle system upgrade
or is it one of those vicarious in nature drugs like 2c-e.
like obv
set and setting and ect ect
but i want something that will come on gently and just guide me back to center...
because i do feel a bit raped....i guess you could say
in terms of theraputic value of mdma i think i would need to take a fair bit...then again i really only abused it for a very short time frame...
i still go get alot of revelation from it but no where near as much as i used to...
Its just seriously i have never felt like this before in my life.
All of these people including the insurance people who are susposed to be against me
are like ooo you're so lucky to be alive. SO thankfully i am getting a nice settlement.
Luckily he didn't break my knees or else i would be getting lots more...lol.
like this is what i want...
IS AMT going to get in my face make me relive moments and strange memories a la 2c-e
or is it going to be one of those Happy Tactile but slightly philosophical trips that bring forth an effervescense because right now i feel like my bulbs are burnt out...
last time i got high was on June 9th. I took 10mg of 4-ho-dipt with 135mg of MDMA
my girlfriend and my roommate and i watched the imaginarium of doctor parnassus and Dead man with Johnny Depp by Jim Jarmusch just made a very open minded textural evening.
i got hit on the 21rst.
and i just want my light bulbs changed a refresh..
is AMT a gentle system upgrade
or is it one of those vicarious in nature drugs like 2c-e.
like obv
set and setting and ect ect
but i want something that will come on gently and just guide me back to center...
because i do feel a bit raped....i guess you could say
in terms of theraputic value of mdma i think i would need to take a fair bit...then again i really only abused it for a very short time frame...
i still go get alot of revelation from it but no where near as much as i used to...
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Xorkoth
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AMT is going to be like your second option:
"one of those Happy Tactile but slightly philosophical trips that bring forth an effervescense"
I think it's a good choice for your purposes.
"one of those Happy Tactile but slightly philosophical trips that bring forth an effervescense"
I think it's a good choice for your purposes.
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How similar do aMT and 5-meo-aMT smell?
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General Patton
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AMT has to be one of the gentlest yet life-affirming psychedelics there is, even a couple mg will take me out of the worst negative spirals my mind can throw at me. I think because it's a slight antidepressant, in the true sense of increasing serotonin, it's almost like a psychedelic with "training wheels" :D ...Training wheels that turn into spinning wheels of death once enough DPT is added
Right now I want to escape this heat by dipping myself in the waters of lake Minnitonka... AKA taking a hit of AMT than jumping in my pool. Ahhhh fuck how nice that'd be right now!
Right now I want to escape this heat by dipping myself in the waters of lake Minnitonka... AKA taking a hit of AMT than jumping in my pool. Ahhhh fuck how nice that'd be right now!
Psychonautical
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my AMT was acquired 3gs of the freebase...
i am interested in testing this stuff out....
So should i orally indulge myself in a 5mg taste test
or smoke test?
i am interested in testing this stuff out....
So should i orally indulge myself in a 5mg taste test
or smoke test?
Shambles
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Always best to start with a lowish test-dose, I'd say. Low dose aMT is really nice anyway. Not trippy at that level but such a nice mood lift you're walking on air all day
As for oral/rectal vs vaped - the former options provide a "fuller" experience so would be my recommendation to get a real feel for the stuff at first. Does tend to be more heavy on the nausea/GI discomfort than vaped but that varies a lot from person to person and you may be fortunate enough to skip that stuff. Vaped tends to emphasise the speedy and entactogenic side and can reduce the psychedelia somewhat for some - again, YMMV of course. I like both but choose vaped sometimes for the greatly reduced come-up and avoidance of GI issues. Sometimes slightly reduces duration when vaped but doesn't seem to greatly for me.
As for oral/rectal vs vaped - the former options provide a "fuller" experience so would be my recommendation to get a real feel for the stuff at first. Does tend to be more heavy on the nausea/GI discomfort than vaped but that varies a lot from person to person and you may be fortunate enough to skip that stuff. Vaped tends to emphasise the speedy and entactogenic side and can reduce the psychedelia somewhat for some - again, YMMV of course. I like both but choose vaped sometimes for the greatly reduced come-up and avoidance of GI issues. Sometimes slightly reduces duration when vaped but doesn't seem to greatly for me.
retard
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I recently discovered this drug. I saw this drug used to be an antidepressant at doses of 5–10 mg.
My question. I take Duloxetine (Cymbalta) which is an SNRI. What can I expect if I take AMT (releasing agent of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine) with therapeutic dosages ~5-10 mg. Does Duloxetine block the serotonin and norepinephrine release from AMT and it wouldn't affect the release of dopamine? Can somebody explain how Duloxetine would work with AMT? I would like to use AMT for a subtle boost of dopamine during the day, but I don't if this will work out.
My question. I take Duloxetine (Cymbalta) which is an SNRI. What can I expect if I take AMT (releasing agent of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine) with therapeutic dosages ~5-10 mg. Does Duloxetine block the serotonin and norepinephrine release from AMT and it wouldn't affect the release of dopamine? Can somebody explain how Duloxetine would work with AMT? I would like to use AMT for a subtle boost of dopamine during the day, but I don't if this will work out.
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