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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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If you have the salt then dissolve it in 1ml of water and squirt that up your bum with an oral syringe or a medicine dropper (the ones I get are graduated and hold 1ml, you can get them at a pharmacy). Make sure to lube up the implement before inserting, olive oil works fine. After the initial squirt the discomfort is minimal, the duration is lessened somewhat, the come-up time is shortened significantly and the various nausea/headache/body load problems are reduced if not eliminated. I've never tried AMT rectally but tons of other substances greatly benefit from the ROA and rectal is many people's favourite method.

I'm going to take some rectally tomorrow, in fact, and I was wondering - I have the freebase, should I cap it and insert or dissolve in water with titrated vinegar added to help it dissolve?
 
botfly said:
Well I'll take it about 6pm 2moz probably or maybe a bit earlier if it takes a few hours to come up and the bbq will be sunday afternoon like 4ish I think. Can you look normal or do you get wierd meph eyes? I don't hide drugs very well put it that way. Also I think it's the salt I have, what ways can i make it absorb quicker and last not as long? Thought about sniffing it, I know it's meant to be painful but that doesn't bother me really.
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It will make your eyes very dilated during the effects. AMT is odd in that all of the methods of admin, even smoking it, take at least an hour to come on, or more, and last many hours. Smoking it does reduce the duration. Plugging it (rectally) also reduces the duration a bit and makes it come up faster and come down faster. Also in my opinion it greatly reduces the bodyload so it's my preferred method.

The next day you will feel a bit tired but good, with a nice good mood during the afterglow. Your eyes will no longer be dilated and you will probably feel pretty social. To be honest I'd most prefer to take it during the BBQ if I were you, because it's such a social drug... it always makes me a better talker and find a lot more interesting things to talk about. It's not like meph or some shitty stimulant where it basically turns you into a mess. AMT is a psychedelic and for me at least it makes me feel more "on it"... like I'd prefer to hang out with people on it than not on it. But if you're not very experienced I wouldn't suggest it... and I definitely wouldn't suggest it for your first time with any substance. But I'm just trying to say that it's not going to make it hard to hang out the next day and it's not going to make it obvious that you were on drugs. Unless maybe you get no sleep at all, depending on how you do with lack of sleep.
 
Tried smoking 10mg (slightly yellowed freebase) earlier today as a first test run... The effect is subtle to say the least; I've had a noticeable/pleasant body buzz for several hours, but it's almost more sedating than trippy or even speedy.

I sandwiched the AMT between some weed and smoked it that way. Might I have destroyed it all accidentally? I figured sandwiching it would be good enough, but I guess I'll go out and buy a crack pipe (I can't bring myself to chase it on some foil; I guess I have issues).
 
Managed to grab some of this today. Took 35mg at 20:45 and still not feeling anything other than nausia.

Should it take this long for such a relatively high dose?
 
Listening said:
Tried smoking 10mg (slightly yellowed freebase) earlier today as a first test run... The effect is subtle to say the least; I've had a noticeable/pleasant body buzz for several hours, but it's almost more sedating than trippy or even speedy.

I sandwiched the AMT between some weed and smoked it that way. Might I have destroyed it all accidentally? I figured sandwiching it would be good enough, but I guess I'll go out and buy a crack pipe (I can't bring myself to chase it on some foil; I guess I have issues).
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Smoking it inbetween weed seems to waste it. You need to vaporize it. A lightbulb works better than tinfoil.
 
busby said:
Managed to grab some of this today. Took 35mg at 20:45 and still not feeling anything other than nausia.

Should it take this long for such a relatively high dose?
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How did it end up? It can take several hours to fully develop, but 35 mg's orally should give you a nice euphoric, stimulating high.

What did your sample look and smell like?
 
love_sex_desire said:
How did it end up? It can take several hours to fully develop, but 35 mg's orally should give you a nice euphoric, stimulating high.

What did your sample look and smell like?
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Really dissapointing actually. It looks like concrete. Slight greyish colour.

It started to kick in about 20 mins after my last post but not in a good way. Felt jittery and as the night progressed we both felt talkative but it was all negative talk.

Do you think it's because we took too much? Smaller dose maybe?
 
busby said:
Really dissapointing actually. It looks like concrete. Slight greyish colour.

It started to kick in about 20 mins after my last post but not in a good way. Felt jittery and as the night progressed we both felt talkative but it was all negative talk.

Do you think it's because we took too much? Smaller dose maybe?
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I had the same stuff as you busby, pretty sure. It wasn't the aMT I can tell you that. I had a 35mg dose as well, followed 3 hours later by another 15mg because we thought it wasn't peaking enough. What followed was 10 hours of pure bliss, nothing was negative or jittery. Not sure why you felt that way, but I don't think it was the dose or the substance.
 
I used MDAI, adderall and aMT yesterday. It was pretty much as I expected it would be, like MDA. I think I undershot the MDAI, though. I only did 70 mg (of the brown batch). Next time I'll probably do 120 to 150 mg MDAI, (12mg adderall - both plugged), with 17 mg aMT (IM)
 
Listening said:
Tried smoking 10mg (slightly yellowed freebase) earlier today as a first test run... The effect is subtle to say the least; I've had a noticeable/pleasant body buzz for several hours, but it's almost more sedating than trippy or even speedy.

I sandwiched the AMT between some weed and smoked it that way. Might I have destroyed it all accidentally? I figured sandwiching it would be good enough, but I guess I'll go out and buy a crack pipe (I can't bring myself to chase it on some foil; I guess I have issues).
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How odd... I did the exact same thing this afternoon myself to say goodbye to the remains of my freebase now HCl is all the rage.. actually purely cos I desperately needed a gentle but big mood lift. 10mg vaped is enough to get you at least plenty, chilled, mellow, content, dreamy and a just a few teasing tinglyrushes, in my experience. I would personally suspect that smoking it with weed may have been the culprit - waaaaaaay to hot so would have mostly completely toasted beyond repair. A crack-pipe (or hash pipe or any other kinda pipe) is too hot too.

Hence tinfoil - gives you complete control of temperature cos it heats however fast you want it to but also cools down almost instantly to keep those lil beetles right wher you want them to b. It's all right there actually happening in controllable real time right under yer nose and before yer very eyes and in your very lungs. Once you get the hang of chasing from foil (not that I'm suggesting anybody should) it's like an instinctive thing to not frazzle all the Good from your Goodies.

If you want to vape aMT then tinfoil is your friend. I'm sure a decent vaporiser would be at least as good but I don't have one, they cost a fortune and tinfoil doesn't, and I've been a Friend (and Foe) of the Foil for a very long time indeed. Really is the best technique for vaping aside from maybe an actual (good) vaporiser.
 
This is on the cards for me in the near future at a music festival. I have no prior experience with aMT.

I've read all I can, here and in EADD; I'm left with the impression that low doses may reap disappointment. I'm tempted to dive in at 45-50mg rectally (after an initial 3-4mg tester to prove it's not the 5-meo cousin and discount allergic reaction). I have experience with psyches, stimulants and empathogens in various situations and I imagine I would enjoy the full range of effects in the planned setting.

Is this a stupidly high first "real" dose?

My other thought is 35mg and a backup of MDMA in case it's not hitting the spot (say, after four or five hours)? I wonder what amount of MDMA would be within reason in that case?

Or other suggestions for a backup? Anyone tried it with MDPV?

I don't mean to sound like my happiness depends on the drug experience, it doesn't, but my sheer bliss probably does.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts! I'm being quite cautious here, I think BL makes me cautious.
 
My first experience with AMT was 25mg. It was too much for me. I didn't really enjoy it. I would say having a sucky experience due to dosing too low is much better than having a sucky experience due to dosing too high, as you can always re-dose later on if the effects aren't as strong as you like.
 
Does redosing work with aMT, or is tolerance built up too quickly to have much of an effect?

My friend is thinking of trying 30 mg and waiting 3 hours to see if it's strong enough and if the effects are too subtle could he redose at the 3 hour mark with another 30 mg?

He has never tried aMT but he is looking for a psychedelic experience so he figured 60 mg would be a good psychedelic dose, but is thinking of starting out with 30 mg to test the waters and take it from there.

Anyone redosed with aMT that can shed light onto how effective redosing is?
 
I am also wondering what people use to combat stomach issues with aMT.

Is non-drowsy ginger-based gravol effective?

Any tips on how to combat stomach issues is fully appreciated!
 
love_sex_desire said:
I am also wondering what people use to combat stomach issues with aMT.

Is non-drowsy ginger-based gravol effective?

Any tips on how to combat stomach issues is fully appreciated!
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Have an empty stomach. That will get rid of most of the queasiness. Or take it rectally.
 
love_sex_desire said:
Anyone redosed with aMT that can shed light onto how effective redosing is?
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I found redosing to be highly effective. 35mg initial dose, waited three hours and could feel it coming up quite nicely after four hours though we felt like the come-up had hit a plateau so we redosed 15mg which took us very nicely into heaven! :) About 8 or 9 hours after initial dose took another 15mg which didn't seem as effective (as expected), but maintained the euphoria for a good 5 or 6 hours more.

We were certainly 'tripping balls' ;) But just not in a visual kind of way. As others have said, the closest I can compare it to is mescaline but much much more euphoric, orgasmic really. Redosing was good, but probably not a third time might be a bit of a waste.
 
Is there a consensus on whether ingestion of HCl vs freebase AMT lead to different trip experiences (duration, strength, body load, visuals etc.)?

Would it be easy to convert HCl to freebase if one wanted to vape?

(Seems like HCl is all that's available right now - hence the questions)
 
^In my experience the HCl has a faster oral onset, less nausea, and it's a little more euphoric and a little less psychedelic and stimulating. But I can't rule out the possibility that the way I metabolize aMT has just changed since I only had the freebase years ago and only have the HCL now. I have no idea why there should be any difference, though, since the freebase should convert to the HCl when the stomach acid hits it.
 
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