Shambles
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The 6-APB (that may be 6-APDB but probably isn't) Train Wreck of a Thread
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Brian.Badonde
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It's fake. The official vendors all have a controlled release date: 1st July (unless theres another delay, which is very likely)
Any 6-APB on sale before 1st July is fake.
16 1/2 stone now although 100mg of MDMA used to be perfect for a good dunt whan I was bulking at 18 stone.
aMT gave me lots of euphoria but I found it sedating (unlike lots of other people that found it stimulating).
I think the majority of people will like this, just not quite what I am looking for.
Actually the only drug I seem to enjoy now is MDMA.
Does YMMV mean, Your mileage may vary?
it is easy, upload the spectra to imageshack or any of the other free storage sites and then put the link in the post.
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Harambulus
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My uncle will do it for you for a tenner and a bag of meph.
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uncle Ranjit mixing some chemicals in the back of his corner shop isn't what i was thinking when i said spectra test.
dizygotheca
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I have actually read the trip reports. But, do you consider empathy to be synonymous with tactile enhancement? Perhaps they can lend to one another, but my point was that no one has implicitly mentioned 'empathy'.
Also, what do you have to say regarding the psychedelic/visual effects of 6-apb? I don't necessarily see psychedelic as synonymous with 'visual'. I'm just wondering if the sparkliness, clarity, and 'movement' have any psychedelic relevance like 2c-x, lsd, or mushrooms, or aMT.
Ok, perhaps I'm asking too much at the moment. Its still too early in the game to expect people to be scrutinizing 6-apb this deeply.
Vurtual
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I dabbed 60-70mg of 6apb about 90 min after food. A funny taste but very familiar from certain 90s pills. Come up proper started in about an hour, full effects at about 2 hours - quite a lot of nausea for this time (i had a bowl next to me), but no sick.
Effects were very nice - more trippy than mdma - some visual effects (no actual hallucinations, but visual distortions, colour enhancement, and that look of weirdness). Some stimulation/foot tapping etc, but not massive - the slight trippiness predominated for me (maybe because i wanted it to).
Made music and really enjoyed it (how i usually use mdma).
5 hours in the peak started to subside but still nice - feel like I could do more at 7 hours (but not compelled to). Still stimulated for a while after the peak (like methylone), but never feel horrible about it (up 9-10 hours in all). Next day after 5 hours sleep feel fine and still slightly niced out.
So much healthier feeling than the (few times) i did meph or m1 - my pulse never went higher than 100 or so and mostly about 90 (i've caught it at 120+ when on m1, and still high days after) (my resting pulse is about 70-80)
I really liked this; however I think the trippiness may not be everyone's cup of tea (some will love it/some wont, specially those whose main tipple has been meph). Plus caution should be taken with this stuff - if it's in 100mg pellets, it should really be introduced to newbies gradually (try a quarter first then a half... like we did with strong pills in the 90s) - some people who havent done psychs before can react badly to even the slight trippiness of a good pill (respect the substance) - thats if it ever gets sold...
^about empathy - I was on my own for most of it but at the start i was with some people: it did feel quite empathetic to me chatting to them - some push to talk, but enough sensitivity to listen too (and felt quite empathetic to my pets after too). i couldn't quantify this next to mdma (maybe im just feeling empathetic anyway (or is that erm pathetic)).
^And the visuals weren't particularly visual, just that look of immanence that familiar objects take on (maybe that's just me). The trippiness was more in the feelling side - a slight edge of awe and a bit of laughter (again, maybe just me - im quite sensitive to psychs)
Effects were very nice - more trippy than mdma - some visual effects (no actual hallucinations, but visual distortions, colour enhancement, and that look of weirdness). Some stimulation/foot tapping etc, but not massive - the slight trippiness predominated for me (maybe because i wanted it to).
Made music and really enjoyed it (how i usually use mdma).
5 hours in the peak started to subside but still nice - feel like I could do more at 7 hours (but not compelled to). Still stimulated for a while after the peak (like methylone), but never feel horrible about it (up 9-10 hours in all). Next day after 5 hours sleep feel fine and still slightly niced out.
So much healthier feeling than the (few times) i did meph or m1 - my pulse never went higher than 100 or so and mostly about 90 (i've caught it at 120+ when on m1, and still high days after) (my resting pulse is about 70-80)
I really liked this; however I think the trippiness may not be everyone's cup of tea (some will love it/some wont, specially those whose main tipple has been meph). Plus caution should be taken with this stuff - if it's in 100mg pellets, it should really be introduced to newbies gradually (try a quarter first then a half... like we did with strong pills in the 90s) - some people who havent done psychs before can react badly to even the slight trippiness of a good pill (respect the substance) - thats if it ever gets sold...
^about empathy - I was on my own for most of it but at the start i was with some people: it did feel quite empathetic to me chatting to them - some push to talk, but enough sensitivity to listen too (and felt quite empathetic to my pets after too). i couldn't quantify this next to mdma (maybe im just feeling empathetic anyway (or is that erm pathetic)).
^And the visuals weren't particularly visual, just that look of immanence that familiar objects take on (maybe that's just me). The trippiness was more in the feelling side - a slight edge of awe and a bit of laughter (again, maybe just me - im quite sensitive to psychs)
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Most people seem to be feeling sick during the come up. Is this a sign of anything? I've done MDMA, Meth etc and have never had a feeling sick feeling. Some people are saying this is a good thing I guess due to getting the same feelings with pure MDMA?
Vurtual
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I often get nausea when oral dosing on MDxx, especially pills; but it was noticeable - also i think i remember someone saying that early trials on 5-apdb often gave nausea, so maybe it's a feature of the benzofuran or summit.
angelsmoke
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I was also underwhelmed. That conflicts with what I said during ("it's wonderful, great, wow") -- but often things seem different when you've had time to reflect on them.
It was very enjoyable, very strong from a small dose. I didn't experience any visual effects at all - perhaps a bit of colur enhancement and haziness but barely noticable, and I was really looking forward to them.
For me it wasn't a patch on MDMA. It didn't have near the same levels of empathy or euphoria. It felt quite shallow.
I had residual stimulation for about 12 hours from first dose. The immediate comedown was pretty uncomfortable, feeling a bit sick and a bit sick of it all. I vomitted twice - once during the come up and once at the end. The vomitting wasn't all that unpleasant (I'm sure anyone who has been sick on pills will understand what I mean), but the sick shitty feeling was pretty grim. I felt better just resting my head on a cushion and closing my eyes for a while -- quite nice to relax, but would be a bit of an issue if you were out.
I'm a fan of benzos/GBL to get through a comedown, but I didn't need them for this.
Longer term comedown I can't really comment on yet as they can drag on for a week. The day after I just wanted to lie around and watch TV, so did my comedown classic of Star Trek overload - felt perfectly happy but wouldn't have wanted to go to work. Today (2 days after) I feel perfectly fine. Actually, I feel better than I usually do, less edgy.
Definitely a very nice drug and I'd take it again (if it ever appears for general sale), but I wish I had set out to judge it purely from my own perspective rather than trying to find all the other effects described in this thread. I was almost looking for "legal mdma" and this isn't it. I won't even compare it to mephedrone -- it's a very different beast.
It was very enjoyable, very strong from a small dose. I didn't experience any visual effects at all - perhaps a bit of colur enhancement and haziness but barely noticable, and I was really looking forward to them.
For me it wasn't a patch on MDMA. It didn't have near the same levels of empathy or euphoria. It felt quite shallow.
I had residual stimulation for about 12 hours from first dose. The immediate comedown was pretty uncomfortable, feeling a bit sick and a bit sick of it all. I vomitted twice - once during the come up and once at the end. The vomitting wasn't all that unpleasant (I'm sure anyone who has been sick on pills will understand what I mean), but the sick shitty feeling was pretty grim. I felt better just resting my head on a cushion and closing my eyes for a while -- quite nice to relax, but would be a bit of an issue if you were out.
I'm a fan of benzos/GBL to get through a comedown, but I didn't need them for this.
Longer term comedown I can't really comment on yet as they can drag on for a week. The day after I just wanted to lie around and watch TV, so did my comedown classic of Star Trek overload - felt perfectly happy but wouldn't have wanted to go to work. Today (2 days after) I feel perfectly fine. Actually, I feel better than I usually do, less edgy.
Definitely a very nice drug and I'd take it again (if it ever appears for general sale), but I wish I had set out to judge it purely from my own perspective rather than trying to find all the other effects described in this thread. I was almost looking for "legal mdma" and this isn't it. I won't even compare it to mephedrone -- it's a very different beast.
Is the euphoria feeling similar to that from opiates, but with more stimulation? I should have a sample tomorrow but i'm just trying to get an idea of something to compare it too and i noticed nobody's said whether it is or isn't anything like opiates (bear in mind i've only tried a CWE of codiene, ~400mg).
(i may be well off the mark with this comparison as i'm rather inexperienced)
(i may be well off the mark with this comparison as i'm rather inexperienced)
BigTee
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i'm a heroin addict and regularly use other opiates too, yet to try 6-apb but i'm very experienced with these mdma-style RCs - methylone, mephedrone, et al - and i'm a regular user of crystal mdma ...i've never found any of them to be in any way similar to opiates. totally different game. that said, i imagine 6-apb will be much more euphoric than codeine for just about everyone
Shambles
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For those interested here's the mass spectrum thingy of the 6-APB samples that were recently sent out:
any major dude
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thanks for that shambles. Glad it doesn't look too much like a forest
Shambles
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Looks like some pointy things on a pink background to me but sure it holds deeper meaning for some :D
Posted in the ADD thread too for the chemistry bods to pore over.
Posted in the ADD thread too for the chemistry bods to pore over.
Brian.Badonde
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i havent got a clue what it means either lol
someone convert that thingy into a TRUE/FALSE result pls
someone convert that thingy into a TRUE/FALSE result pls
Shambles
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According to the first impressions of those in ADD it is definitely 6-APB with a few minor impurities (which is to be expected really, I'm sure). Sure they'll have more to say after looking into it... not that many of us mere mortals will understand their conclusions :D
Harambulus
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Interesting stuff.
I have no idea what the fuck it means either. What is it? I.e how could that graph thingy be explained in laymans terms?
Is it like a blueprint/barcode of the specific drug- and the specific batch people have been trying at that?
How does one go about getting one of those graph thingies from a bag of powder?
I have never got around to inquiring about this stuff to my uncle ranjit
I have no idea what the fuck it means either. What is it? I.e how could that graph thingy be explained in laymans terms?
Is it like a blueprint/barcode of the specific drug- and the specific batch people have been trying at that?
How does one go about getting one of those graph thingies from a bag of powder?
I have never got around to inquiring about this stuff to my uncle ranjit
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