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The 6-APB (that may be 6-APDB but probably isn't) Train Wreck of a Thread

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I'm feeling great, this stuff is definitely nice. Rather strangely though I don't really seem to be getting any visuals, which is slightly disappointing
 
i can't wait to try it :) i sense this stuff would go very nicely with mdma. MDA visuals were sometimes very random and unexpected. i expect it to be more akin to mdma visuals, recognising complete strangers. staring at random people then watching their plastic faces shimmering

i could imagine being in a smoke filled club with a strobe and seeing some very strange things going on and having to accept that what i just saw WAS NOT REAL lol :)
 
The 6-APB pricing cluster-fuck

Yeah... here's my 2p worth on this whole pricing bullshit...

Initially this seemed too goo to be true - Skyline & GZero's initial trip reports were so good that no-one actually believed them...

Next we hear that only CERTAIN vendors were getting some samples in and were going to hand them out gratis. Now this is EXTREMELY generous! Vendors are generally a cut-throat bunch and would sell the grandmothers given a chance!
Samples get delivered with glowing reports rapidly flooding in.

Next we hear the vendors are "thinking" about selling this in handy 100mg tablets as well as 100mg baggies. WTF? Apparently this is for "our own safety"
Erm... don't insult my intelligence please. I'm no meph-kiddie slap-head!

Then we hear that these 100mg tabs & bags will be selling for what initially was going to be the price of 1 gram! 2xWTF?
Now vendors are filling up the net trying to justify the reduced sales weights as well as the INFLATED price (safety, handy, no scales needed, single dose package/tab etc etc etc...)

This whole thing sucks big time! Its almost a repeat of old time crack sales - Hype the product, get customers hooked on a few free-bees... then jack the price.

And to make this more of a cluster-fuck the vendors have formed a bloody cartel where ONLY THEY will be getting supplied with 6-APB

This whole pricing saga has got the classic signature of an amateur (Chinese maybe?) new era "hype the product - then rip-off" written all over it.

Greedy, greedy vendors manage once again to screw it up by trying to fiddle with the basic principles of good sales techniques 101- I.e. when you have a good product, reduce your margins as much as you can and let the sales volumes generate the profits!



Scoobysnacks said:
just been informed where we all once thought we was gonna be paying 15 - 20 pounds per gram,now sadly thats not the case, the oldest human emotion pure fucking greed has kicked in, now we are gonna pay 15 pounds for a 100 mg tablet or bag of powder, vendors will have us believe its for our safekeeping HAHAHA, we not all green behind the ears teenagers with full wages to throw away, this cynical marketing ploy has been going on since this shit was first mentioned and all vendors have got there heads together to keep prices high just like the high street haha, remember guys vendors will be paying a couple of pound a gram in the weight they are getting and will be offloading to us poor plebs while making 150 pound per gram!!!!!, tell them to fuck off the shiesters , don't buy it and within a week or two supply and demand will ensure a fair price
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RC Ninja said:
...This whole thing sucks big time! Its almost a repeat of old time crack sales - Hype the product, get customers hooked on a few free-bees... then jack the price...
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Yeah it's shit, but not unexpected (they're capitalists/businessmen, moreso than many dealers). If you believe in the invisible hand (I don't), the price will stabilise at an appropriate value...just hope it's before the law comes a knockin'. On the bright side, there will be price breaks on bulk (who would have paid £15/g of meph/m1 when legal?).

Speculation's a bit pointless... there'll be more solid info in a few days (apparently...). I'm not a vendor/shill (i'm spartacus) -just hearsey .../like the ghostbusters car
 
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Vendors probably thinking along the lines of "How long are we going to be able to get away with selling what are in essence legal Ecstasy pills online that are in all probability stronger than the illegal ones...."....These people are going to attempt to make as much money in a short a space of time as possible - and as I stated before, I have a feeling that time will be Very Short.:\
 
MrDoIt said:
Vendors probably thinking along the lines of "How long are we going to be able to get away with selling what are in essence legal Ecstasy pills online that are in all probability stronger than the illegal ones...."....These people are going to attempt to make as much money in a short a space of time as possible - and as I stated before, I have a feeling that time will be Very Short.:\
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If the powder is priced similarly you can sure as hell bet people will be trying to sell it on cut to shit.
 
supply and demand will win the day. Those vendors who do start charging extortionate prices to begin with will see that people have long memories.
 
RC Ninja said:
Yeah... here's my 2p worth on this whole pricing bullshit...

Initially this seemed too goo to be true - Skyline & GZero's initial trip reports were so good that no-one actually believed them...

Next we hear that only CERTAIN vendors were getting some samples in and were going to hand them out gratis. Now this is EXTREMELY generous! Vendors are generally a cut-throat bunch and would sell the grandmothers given a chance!
Samples get delivered with glowing reports rapidly flooding in.

Next we hear the vendors are "thinking" about selling this in handy 100mg tablets as well as 100mg baggies. WTF? Apparently this is for "our own safety"
Erm... don't insult my intelligence please. I'm no meph-kiddie slap-head!

Then we hear that these 100mg tabs & bags will be selling for what initially was going to be the price of 1 gram! 2xWTF?
Now vendors are filling up the net trying to justify the reduced sales weights as well as the INFLATED price (safety, handy, no scales needed, single dose package/tab etc etc etc...)

This whole thing sucks big time! Its almost a repeat of old time crack sales - Hype the product, get customers hooked on a few free-bees... then jack the price.

And to make this more of a cluster-fuck the vendors have formed a bloody cartel where ONLY THEY will be getting supplied with 6-APB

This whole pricing saga has got the classic signature of an amateur (Chinese maybe?) new era "hype the product - then rip-off" written all over it.

Greedy, greedy vendors manage once again to screw it up by trying to fiddle with the basic principles of good sales techniques 101- I.e. when you have a good product, reduce your margins as much as you can and let the sales volumes generate the profits!
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If this really is the situation, which I doubt it is, then it won't last long. Obviously I'm no chemist, but I doubt synthesis of 6-APB is so ridiculously hard that only very few manufacturers can produce it. When Mephedrone was at its peak there were hundreds of overseas producers selling this stuff, as soon as all the old out of work Meph manufacturers notice 6-APB's popularity (assuming it does end up being as good as the reports), they are gonna start looking into producing it too and then the price will drop substantially as vendors start selling it in large quantities and at lower prices.
 
RC Ninja said:
Yeah... here's my 2p worth on this whole pricing bullshit...

Initially this seemed too goo to be true - Skyline & GZero's initial trip reports were so good that no-one actually believed them...

Next we hear that only CERTAIN vendors were getting some samples in and were going to hand them out gratis. Now this is EXTREMELY generous! Vendors are generally a cut-throat bunch and would sell the grandmothers given a chance!
Samples get delivered with glowing reports rapidly flooding in.

Next we hear the vendors are "thinking" about selling this in handy 100mg tablets as well as 100mg baggies. WTF? Apparently this is for "our own safety"
Erm... don't insult my intelligence please. I'm no meph-kiddie slap-head!

Then we hear that these 100mg tabs & bags will be selling for what initially was going to be the price of 1 gram! 2xWTF?
Now vendors are filling up the net trying to justify the reduced sales weights as well as the INFLATED price (safety, handy, no scales needed, single dose package/tab etc etc etc...)

This whole thing sucks big time! Its almost a repeat of old time crack sales - Hype the product, get customers hooked on a few free-bees... then jack the price.

And to make this more of a cluster-fuck the vendors have formed a bloody cartel where ONLY THEY will be getting supplied with 6-APB

This whole pricing saga has got the classic signature of an amateur (Chinese maybe?) new era "hype the product - then rip-off" written all over it.

Greedy, greedy vendors manage once again to screw it up by trying to fiddle with the basic principles of good sales techniques 101- I.e. when you have a good product, reduce your margins as much as you can and let the sales volumes generate the profits!
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ive been well informed that the prices qouted earlier on this are 100% not true. i reckon 8-10 per pellet is going to be the price and if u buy in bulk the price drops per pellet.
 
Esoterik said:
...they are gonna start looking into producing it too and then the price will drop substantially as vendors start selling it in large quantities and at lower prices.
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= BAN

There is no way that the NEW PM is going to allow another Meph situation to develop. Wankers.

Anyway - going to have some of my favorite powder...Hehe see you on the other side !!
 
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Yup. I was just thinking it's a fine line between it becoming popular enough that it is widespread and thus cheaper vs. being so popular it comes to the attention of the law again.

Prob be a steady curve till it booms and gets banned again. Or maybe a wild spike and gets banned even quicker; we shall see...
 
feeny87 said:
ive been well informed that the prices qouted earlier on this are 100% not true. i reckon 8-10 per pellet is going to be the price and if u buy in bulk the price drops per pellet.
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What the fuck is this??? Now the dirty drug dealers from real life are getting behind the internet. (Not that there weren't dirty vendors before, but RC's don't need to be designed to be fed to stupid ass rats.)

Are you people on BL really going to buy this? Vendors forming a kingpin can go to chav hell and stay there, don't support the fall of the RC market with this bullshit.
 
nopipesdfw said:
What the fuck is this??? Now the dirty drug dealers from real life are getting behind the internet. (Not that there weren't dirty vendors before, but RC's don't need to be designed to be fed to stupid ass rats.)

Are you people on BL really going to buy this? Vendors forming a kingpin can go to chav hell and stay there, don't support the fall of the RC market with this bullshit.
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what the fuck are u talking about? im only saying what ive been told by the person i got my sample from so who the fuck are you to go on a rant? wanker
 
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