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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Morning, all. Quick update on the morning after proper. Finished my interrupted sleep and woke up feeling a bit fuzzy of head with a few aches and pains but as I'd been up for almost three days on various combinations of various drugs that's hardly a surprise. Overall I don't feel too bad at all considering. If I had to do stuff today I'm sure I could but would probably choose a lazy day of lounging for preference. Which is exactly what will happen =D

I was also rather chuffed to wake up to find a further sample of it poking through me doorflap. I imagine tolerance would be a concern so not sure exactly when I will dive in for further testing but my willpower ain't great and it is rather scrummy so probably won't be as long as it possibly should ;)

shephard89 said:
I was quite exited by this stuff until I heard about the "pellet" thing. I think ill just give it a miss until someone decides to sell it by the gram...
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One of those pills should be enough for a whole night. How much would a night on MDMA/pills cost you? More than that I suspect.

All this speculation about price is kinda irrelevant. It will cost whatever it costs. I suspect the price will come down soon enough but from what I hear there won't be much available initially and rarity value will inevitably translate into monetary value until it becomes more readily available.

The point Milligrams makes about it being priced at a level that will limit the possibilities of people selling it on is an interesting one though. Was definitely a factor in the explosion of meph in the UK. When you can buy a gram of something as fiendish as that for less than a packet of cigarettes rampant abuse and dealing was always going to be rife.
 
I received a sample today, which I will be splitting into 2 x 50mg doses and sharing with a friend at Glastonbury, so I will report back on it's effectiveness and performance in a highly social environment. It's kind of a shame that I haven't got 2 x 100mg doses, but I think it will be interesting to see how it effects us at a lower dose, especially as neither of us have had any decent mdma for 2 years, and only very low amounts of meph/pips. It will also be useful to monitor the YMMV principle, given that we are both male and there is a 2st weight difference (my mate's a chunky fucker :-D).
 
angelsmoke said:
Yeugh, I just threw up. Hope I didn't vomit out any of the 6-APB goodness!!
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I felt queasy a few times, but it felt like an effect of the substance rather than it's presence in the stomach (it was a couple of hours in) I'd say it's already in there by now.
 
rafterman said:
I received a sample today, which I will be splitting into 2 x 50mg doses and sharing with a friend at Glastonbury, so I will report back on it's effectiveness and performance in a highly social environment. It's kind of a shame that I haven't got 2 x 100mg doses, but I think it will be interesting to see how it effects us at a lower dose, especially as neither of us have had any decent mdma for 2 years, and only very low amounts of meph/pips. It will also be useful to monitor the YMMV principle, given that we are both male and there is a 2st weight difference (my mate's a chunky fucker :-D).
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I was definitely surprised by what I thought would be a low dose (~33mgs) and I'd had mud just a few hours before (see above) - you'll deffinitely get a good taste of the substance - doing it with someone would probably make it better as well (I found it quite entactogenic)

Duh - I should have but this in with the last post (I'm new here...)
 
Vurtual said:
I was definitely surprised by what I thought would be a low dose (~33mgs) and I'd had mud just a few hours before (see above) - you'll deffinitely get a good taste of the substance - doing it with someone would probably make it better as well (I found it quite entactogenic)

Duh - I should have but this in with the last post (I'm new here...)
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Yeah, I read your post with interest, which is why I'm happy doing a 50mg dose. I also take your point on doing it with someone else as I'd like to explore the entactogenic side, as that is what has been missing from any legal/illegal stuff I've had for the last couple of years, and rather than necking the lot and feeling sorry for my mate for not being in a similar state, I'd rather split it and share the fun.

I can't wait to see wha the The Orb live will be like on this rc. :D
 
Vurtual said:
I felt queasy a few times, but it felt like an effect of the substance rather than it's presence in the stomach (it was a couple of hours in) I'd say it's already in there by now.
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Yeah, hard to describe, but I also felt like it was because of the effects not because of the actual ingestion.

Pretty sure I didn't throw any of it up, or if I did I don't mind, cos I am now feeling very nice!! No visuals as yet, but a feeling of wellbeing and near-euphoric fuckeness.
 
Does anyone care to take any guesses on whether the d-isomer is strong enough for this compound to undergo N-methylation and still retain enough activity while removing some of the hallucinogenic effects?

This would also allow two or actually more possible new legal forms even if benzofuran and dihydrobenzofuran groups were added to the law, the benzofuran and dihydrobenzofuran analogs of FLEA and MDOH, the N-hydroxy 6-apb, 6-apdb, 5-apb, and 5-apdb, as well as the N-methyl, N-Hydroxy versions of said compounds. At least from what I understand N-OH groups aren't covered in the new UK law. I assume MDOH and FLEA are currently covered from that law that mentions making everything in PHKAL illegal. Even if N-methylation destroys activity of 6-apb, the N-OH could ppssibly work. Also, the N-hydroxy and N-methyl,N-hydroxy versions would seem to me to be more legal in the US since MDOH and FLEA are not specifically listed as controlled substances although pretty likely to be considered analogs, and it would add a bit more separation between the compound being sold and any specifically listed controlled substance. That said, MDOH and FLEA might not be interesting nor their benzofuran counterparts. If so, it wouldnt be the first time Shulgin's descriptions were a little more glowing than the compound actually is to most users.
 
Out of curiosity, do the people who have tried this drug recommend it as a dance drug like MDMA or is it more a chilled out thing?
 
discopupils said:
Out of curiosity, do the people who have tried this drug recommend it as a dance drug like MDMA or is it more a chilled out thing?
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I couldn't really be definitive (see report above) about 6APB, but my leg was bouncing to the music and if in a club/party I would have danced - but maybe the slight psychedelic edge would make some people more inclined to sit and chat instead...

Lots of people complain that crystal MDMA isn't 'dancy' like the pills of yore (I don't though); and who knows which of those legendary pills were MDA or MDMA anyway (eternity notwithstanding)
 
discopupils said:
Out of curiosity, do the people who have tried this drug recommend it as a dance drug like MDMA or is it more a chilled out thing?
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i think you could use it either way. i could have been dancing all night on it if i had got to go out but in the house with some trance music was really good too. =D
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone :) I assume it would be safe to mix with a small amount of amphetamine for clubbing but I'll tread carefully with it.
 
^I'd imagine so. I was half tempted to throw some meph into the mix after the euphoria wore off but decided against it in the end
 
I smoked weed with it, made it very very psychedelic and not fit for public. I could imagine with a little speed or mephedrone it would be euphoric and you'd be more than socially exceptable with everything looking a bit more lovely.
 
Yeah I find meph combines really poorly with MDxx type substances anyway. I might buy ethylphenidate to combine it with if I'm feeling daring :)
 
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