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how do you deal with misnformed people?

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micky_mouse

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some of the people i know are taking acid, and they've told my friends all this shit how there's a 1 in 1000 chance yo'ull get stuck in a bad trip and how he knows this guy that thinks he's a sunflower and shit. i'm sure you've all heard that one.

but whenever i explain that he's wrong, he just says no, and won't believe anything i say, and it's really annoying :@

how do you deal with people like this? or do you just let them be wrong and not bother?
 
If they believe those urban legends why are they still taking acid! If there was a 1 in 1000 chance I would come out of an acid trip thinking I was a sunflower I wouldn't be taking acid now would I!

Seriously though, with people like that all you can really do is keep trying to educate them. If you present a clear, well reasoned and evidenced argument it's hard for them to hold on to their pre-conceived bullshit. Ask them where they heard their information and if they can back it up with evidence. Ultimately reason should win the day.
 
Boris Badenov said:
If you present a clear, well reasoned and evidenced argument it's hard for them to hold on to their pre-conceived bullshit. Ask them where they heard their information and if they can back it up with evidence. Ultimately reason should win the day.
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^^^this

micky_mouse: You have tonnes of resources to disprove such claims at your fingertips.
 
I've heard the sunflower one a couple of times. As well as all the flashback bullshit etc.

It's a bit hard to convince people when they flat out refuse to listen to any argument and insist they know it is true because of friend of a friend told them - particularly when it comes from someone who they conceive as experienced with the drug.

Most people are willing to listen to a well put forward argument but some aren't. I usually don't bother wasting my time with those people. Ignorance is bliss :)
 
I usually laugh at them for being idiots and site myself as living proof of there missinformation. Or you could become a nhilist and not care.
 
I don't laugh because that makes them defensive and makes me seem like a know-it-all smart ass or something. I try to reason with them and talk about scientific evidence, some people you just can't convince though.
 
I'd first ask them if they knew the full name of the chemical and not just its abbreviation, if they couldn't tell me that then they aren't even remotely informed on the substance. I'd then proceed to inform them on the basic chemistry, history and use.
 
Mr Blonde said:
I don't laugh because that makes them defensive and makes me seem like a know-it-all smart ass or something. I try to reason with them and talk about scientific evidence, some people you just can't convince though.
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But it's hilarious to see someone reciteing 'news' from 'a current affair' or 'today tonight'. It's a big lolz.
 
Sameria said:
I've heard the sunflower one a couple of times. As well as all the flashback bullshit etc.
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I have a friend who claims his had a flashback. Is this simply not the case, or are they just extremely rare?

Also one of my best mates brothers, has been to the psych ward more then once which I've always put down to a combo of Ice and LSD. I've also had another mates brother who was getting severe panic attacks, and would flip out randomly once in awhile which he and I also believe is from too much LSD.

Not saying that either of them think they are a sunflower. But I would definately say it's had some adverse affects on their brain, and they aren't the same person they once were.
 
I'm not too sure how frequent they are, but I'm referring to the attitude that bad flashbacks are extremely common.

One of my mates is too scared to take LSD because he's convinced if he has a bad time on it he will continually get scary flashbacks once he is sober. I've never had one in the handful of times I've had LSD.
 
Sadly, there are too many people like this but the irony is they will happily go out and fry themselves on any random pills they can get their hands on, or go on a three day ice binge, drink enough booze until they're paralytic... you get the picture

Sometimes ignorance just can not be dealt with. IMO and experience, just let them go on being fuck heads. The psych world is probably better off without their bullshit anyway.

To add on to what jordan said, i've know several people who think that LSD and acid are two separate things, and they're the ones that will go forward spreading ridiculous propaganda.

God damn it, I'm angry now.
 
^It's really not worth the time and effort.

Last night i had this chick swear to me black and blue, that i was wrong - and that ice in australia isn't meth.. i told her to bring some of her ice round and i'll put it under a marquis reagent, and see what that says...

suffice to say, apparantly, i'm still wrong.
 
MrIbis said:
^It's really not worth the time and effort.

Last night i had this chick swear to me black and blue, that i was wrong - and that ice in australia isn't meth.. i told her to bring some of her ice round and i'll put it under a marquis reagent, and see what that says...

suffice to say, apparantly, i'm still wrong.
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Ahah, never heard that one before. I've heard people swear that their base/speed/whatever 'isnt the same as meth man!' but that's it. Wonder wtf she 'did' think it was?
 
Yeh unfortunately unless they are close friends I just ignore them, nod and try not too get too pissed off in my head. A few times (random)people have told me and my friends something false and often dangerous about drugs and after we were away from the person id have to tell them all not to listen to that person coz he's full of shit, most of the time this has been to do with acid or psych's. If they are friends that will listen I will share my knowledge, a lot of my friends know that I know what im talking about when it comes to drugs.
But also as Mr Blonde said a lot of the time you come off as a know-it-all or some kind of freak that researches drugs all day(lol hey I used to be just that but I dont/didnt see anything wrong with it though a lot of people would). And I hate people that always think theyre right or really are a know-it-all. So thats pretty much why I keep my mouth shut most of the time unless it something so obviously stupid or dangerous, especially if theres a likelihood of someone actually trying something dumb and hurting themselves. I knew people who reckon they used to make acid tabs out of BATTERY ACID!!! Now that is fucked up.

Another example, the other day this guy was trying to tell me that snuff(snorting tobacco) was really cocaine, and it wasnt a misunderstanding we were talking about the same kind of 'snuff' and when I tried to tell him that no, its wasnt cocaine but tobacco he got all defensive and there was no possible way I could make him understand and in the end I just looked like a dickhead anyway so again, this is why I dont bother with most people.
 
I like to put on my "ricotta listening face" and when they are finished, I conclude that it's in everyone's best interest for me to dispose of said drugs and save everyone's sanity.

I then shut myself in a dark room and do the happy dance.
 
In regard's to acid, most people freak out when they hear the term "Acid, mostly because they think it's the same as Hydrochloric acid which clearly it's not..

I also have friend's that have heard numerous bullshit story's about LSD which is another reason they don't take any time to research it/try it...

The story about the dude who thought he was an orange and started peeling himself is a popular one..lol
 
^ Yeah one of my brothers friends told him that the other day. And my brother heard some other bullshit stories, I thought I had taught him better then that so I was very disappointed when he started telling me all this shit he had heard.

ETA: Oh, and also my girlfriend loves Six Feet Under and we were watching it and in one of the early episodes they have the formaldehyde is PCP myth thing, I burst out laughing and couldn't take the rest of that plot line seriously, had to explain it to my girl. :)
 
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