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otc potentiators, what you use, how dxm helps you

^ not sure if you need tips on purchasing it as that doesn't really gel with the harm-reduction theme of the forum. (Plus you can order it online). I've never really thought about taking anything to potentiate DXM itself, but I've used it to potentiate codeine.

Do you take anything to combat nausea, or the sorbitol etc in the cough syrup?

Of course any thread about DXM should have a little reminder that it's EXTREMELY dangerous to mix with MDMA!
 
Thanks, already some info. I don't get any nausia, but i don't take more than 4 bottles of tussin dx 200ml at a time. I love it after codeine, not before. And i didn't know about the mdma mix being EXTREMELY dangerous, cause i tried my usual with 4 good pills, and just got a 3 day trip. No other effects. I knew about stimulants in general being a bad mix, also, meth being very bad. I won't use syrup with sorbitol unless my contact is sold out and only has dm left. Then i'll max 1 bottle, with the rest as dx. I want gels, can you get em online? As for codeine, thats my speciallty. 2 weeks clean now, to lower my receptor count. Feeling very anxious waiting for this Friday. ;)
 
^ wow 4 bottles of robitussin is pretty solid. A lot of people vomit on one. Here's a really good thread about which OTC syrups etc to avoid and why. robitussin DX is the way to go to:

Products containing DXM and which ones to avoid...

from memory the danger with DXM and MDMA is they compete for the same enzyme for metabolism. If you do a search here you'll find a heap of info on it and it's probably mentioned in most of the stickies and FAQs on BL too.
 
Four bottles!?

Three day trip!?

I don't think you can get gels here in Australia. It's fairly easy to get pure DXM anyway.

DXM is OK.

DXM culture!?
 
Ok, now i know i'm a sigma plateu freak, it's just.... i don't like dxm unless i get a spiritual experience, so Sigma seems the safest plateu for me.
Yes, a 3 day trip, not very spiritual though, i got tired after day one but couldn't shut my eyes for the rest. I felt stuck on second/third plateu and had to wait it out.
Yes a culture based on spirituality, and peace, not just getting fucked up.
And i've never heard of pure dxm in Sydney. I can't find clear amonia, and how do you preserve the dxm even if i agent lemon and dry it? I think of myself as a dxm guru, but someone out here will prove me modest again i'm sure. :)
 
I read in other BL threads that if you stuff up the process you can actually make a really toxic product instead of pure DXM
 
I don't think there is much of a "DXM culture" anywhere in Australia, I have known a few people to enjoy a bit of DX here and there but most of them got over it pretty quickly. I only used it twice myself and that was enough to decide it isn't for me, the only way I would use DXM again is if someone close to me wanted to do it for the experience and wanted a tripping buddy.

I don't think there is much of a culture you can associate with DXM, to be honest its a pretty crappy drug and while it is cheap and legal you also get it in a form that just sucks to consume much of.

I have found DXM extremely useful in the potentiation of codeine and for this reason you will seldom catch me without a bottle of Robitussin DX somewhere in my room/drug stash. I think honestly there are much better drugs to be taking than DXM, even in the same class of drugs there is ketamine and nitrous and nitrous is legal to purchase as well. If you like it thats cool, I am not suggesting you stop something you enjoy, but it is my experience DXM is overall not enjoyable enough to get enough people to form a culture around it, unless your maybe talking about a band of dumb highschoolers sipping cough syrup and doing irresponsible things lol. Thats just my opinion.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Four bottles!?
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A warning for anyone out there, 4 bottles of 200ml Robutussin DX (or Robitussion Dry Cough Forte) @ 30mg/10ml is 2400mg of DXM. This is a ridiculous amount of DXM, even for someone with a heavier bodyweight?

Well past the 4th plateau ranges (i.e. heading towards fatal territory) regularly documented on most other sites:

http://dxm.darkridge.com/calc.html
http://dxm.darkridge.com/text/beginners.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_use_of_dextromethorphan
http://www.dextroverse.org/whatis.html

Much as I love DXM (and in fact actually prefer it to LSD), I don't see how you could form a 'culture' around it beyond what's already online - it's not the sort of drug you can take in public or be overly social on, and at higher doses you're pretty much comatose for half the time anyway.
 
Hmmmmm, it seems that a culture would not be on the cards, however, i'm only 50kg btw. I have found that some times i can handle 2-3 bottles and still obe, but i spose it's not the "druging" i enjoy. It's the insight and spiritual obe travel and the Sigma plateu. I found a place higher, but no one would believe me. It seems to work for me at high doses and i guess thats just something about me. I love codeine to, and have had the argument many times about the max 400ml. I dose 1g codeine and 250mg promethazine. I have a 10min cwe perfected after 10years use btw. I figured that the 2g test on kids was ok, i'll be fine with and extra .4g. I'll stay at 3 and a bit from now on. See! harm reduction in it's glory! ;) But i have no damage that i noticed or a ct with iodine noticed.
 
Thanks mate. I'm so glad you told me that. I've put that on my list to do, but will scratch that.
It's great with codeine if you wanna stay up on the nod all night btw, but i know thats not safe now, and scapped that for the future as well. (Still was nice). I knew MAOI's and dxm is death. Trams however are snri's as well arn't they? Scary mix. Anything else to add, please do.
 
I actually can't believe if choosing between dropping DXM or tramadol out of your routine you would stop tramadol. I wish I had ever gotten much out of ol' DX, probably would of saved thousands over the years if I did...
 
yeah you're right that trams are really an snri, i have a bad habit of writing ssri. it appeara to have actions on the GABAergic, noradrenergic and serotonergic systems, with weak affinity for the mu-opiod receptor.

glad you scraped that off ya list;)
 
I found w/d's from trams bad to, like way worse then H. But i wasn't using trams alone, always mixed. In fact, it's been the same time between doses of dxm and codeine. I got through w/ds of codeine. Never used dxm chronic or more than once a week/month. But i'm hanging for a night alone in the bush on dxm, moore then i am a night on the nod, relaxed in my room. I'm sure the craving for codeine will return when i'm stuck on second plateu during the comedown. I don't know how anyone could enjoy the lower plateu's....... But then DMT isn't for everyone either. I would like to know how much DXM you guys use to potentiate codeine. I asume you guys know and use promethazine with it. Like do you make your own "purple drank".
 
nath6023 said:
I found w/d's from trams bad to, like way worse then H.
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a lot of people laugh at the thought of tramadols wd's being even slightly painful. i've experienced a great deal of wd's from a myriad of opiates and tramadol has been one of the most harshest.

the fact is you're not only wding from an opiate but from the ant-depressant side as well. 2 in one combo. if you're going to quit tramadol it's best to taper as far down as possible first before ceasing to avoid the worst of it.
 
I have always read tramadol w/ds were pretty bad and considering the multiple actions it takes in the body it is hardly surprising to me it would be bad. I know SSRI's can cause pretty bad physical dependance, as well as opiates.

Nath, I use 30-60mg of DXM 45 minutes to an hour before drinking my codeine and sometimes 30mg 15 minutes or so after drinking my codeine. I am obviously more likely to do the post codeine DXM if I only use 30mg beforehand but I have been known to use the whole 90mg (60mg before 30mg after).

In regards to promethazine, I have used it to potentiate codeine quite a number of times. I use 25-50mg taken 30-45 minutes after drinking my codeine, have never tried using it first because it inhibits CYP2D6. I favour dimenhydrinate and doxylamine succinate as codeine potentiators personally. I have never attempted to make any form of "purple drank" by adding any kind of antihistamine into my actual CWE solution or attempting to dye it purple or give it the falvour of grape soda. I do take antihistamines 99% of the time I use codeine and I used to use whatever I could to mask the taste, although I don't ever recall using anything that was purple as a mixer and I drink the stuff straight now anyway.
 
Yea, i didn't mean the drink, rather the active ingredients. Sorry about that. I always wondered what to take first, i thought for the antihistamine to work the receptors must be blocked prior to a histamine reaction. But due to my lovely lack of itch, i don't need the antihistamine's function, just the synergy. On the codeine subject, my mix now, after my w/d's will be 600mg codeine, 250mg prometh, then 300mg dxm in that order. I know dxm is not an opiate as such, but god i would swear it acts on the receptors , which makes me think that your practice is superior. Because the less receptors left empty, the more high one will feel from an opiate. So maybe split my above to half prior, and half later. Cheers :) Please anyone to add to this list. Please no benzo's. I HATE xanax etc, it kills the dxm spirit/trip, and wyeth own Tussin now. Not pfizer. Please add to the list. :)
 
Oh, and Drug Mentor, can you let me know the names for "dimenhydrinate and doxylamine succinate". I can't re-call the name of a drug called dozile. OTC sleep aid. Took shit loads at work one day, like 2 packs of these blue tabs hopeing for a trip, but drove home most disapointed and not tired. Could that help DXM along?
 
^it was once though that drugs(DXM in this case) which acted on the sigma recptors because the d stereoisomers of the benzomorphan class of opioid drugs had no effects at μ, κ, and δ receptors, but reduced coughing

pharmacological testing found sigma receptors were activated by drugs completely unrelated to the opioids, and their function was unrelated to the function of the opioid receptors.

the active metabolite from DXM after passing through the GI tarct is converted to to Dextrorphan which is the active metabolite through the cytochrome P450 and enzyme CYP2D6.
 
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