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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread

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naginnudej said:
If that logic was used in conversation with a police officer, prosecutor, etc... it would be equivalent to an admission of guilt.
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And if you think you can convince a jury you purchased it for some reason other than consumption, you're higher than I've ever been, sir.

doesn't matter if it's subjectively similar to 5-MeO-DiPT or not.
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o rly

Like I said, I absolutely wouldn't bet on it, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as claiming you're actually using this stuff as fertilizer or whatever.
 
In case you didnt know, you are not supposed to use SWIM here. Its against the rules and you will get tared and feathered and possibly get your pants pulled down in public at the next social.
 
I find that 10mg's smoked of the "white crystal kind" can be a beautiful experience. It only gives me open eyed visuals for some reason though...absolutely no closed eyes. It is good to use to "ease" the comedown from mephedrone or methylone.
 
Sentience said:
In case you didnt know, you are not supposed to use SWIM here. Its against the rules and you will get tared and feathered and possibly get your pants pulled down in public at the next social.
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And then no girls will talk to you. Once upon a time SWIM got pantsed at a school dance....and was never seen again!!!
 
Oh, so my friend HAS TO INCRIMINATE HIMSELF on BL in order to remain within the posting guidelines? What a joke. I don't care if people bust on me for it, that is how I post. If the admins don't like it then they can ban me.
 
skunkjar said:
Oh, so my friend HAS TO INCRIMINATE HIMSELF on BL in order to remain within the posting guidelines? What a joke. I don't care if people bust on me for it, that is how I post. If the admins don't like it then they can ban me.
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no you dont HAVE to. But saying SWIM (Someone Who Is (ME)You) is not saving you at all.
You and your friend;) are really not fooling anyone.
 
Delsyd said:
no you dont HAVE to. But saying SWIM (Someone Who Is (ME)You) is not saving you at all.
You and your friend;) are really not fooling anyone.
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No they had me legit fooled.

....But then I had my dad (who's a detective) look at their post and he saw through it right away. Gonna have to be more sneaky if you want to fool my old man.
 
skunkjar said:
Oh, so my friend HAS TO INCRIMINATE HIMSELF on BL in order to remain within the posting guidelines? What a joke. I don't care if people bust on me for it, that is how I post. If the admins don't like it then they can ban me.
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The point is that SWIM is an illusion of safety... how could that possibly protect you? Everyone knows what SWIM means. If you tried to say in court that it meant Someone Who Isn't Me, well, it could just as easily mean Someone WHo Is Me. If you're concerned about incrimination, use something that would actually suggest it's not you, like "my friend" or something. All of those common abbreviations like SWIM and FOAF just scream out that it's you. And it makes posts extremely annoying and awkward to read besides.

I don't see how this is cocky... it's a well-thought-out reason not to use SWIM.
 
I bought some 5-meo-dalt about 2 years ago, it was a brown powder. I put it into 40mg caps, then into a sealed ziplock bag and stored it away. 12months later I go into my stash and notice that the 5-meo-dalt in the caps have gone from a powder into a paste which is very sticky.

I was unsure about the quality of the 5-meo-dalt and threw it out.

Just for anyone else out there who is thinking about using caps for long term storage, not the best idea!
 
They probably picked up moisture or something. I store my 5-Meo-Dalt the same way I store Molly and LSD, in an airtight package in a cool, dark place.
 
DOSAGE SUMMARY 5-MeO-DALT

First time poster here, about to get some 5-MeO-DALT, and as we all know there is very very little info out there on this stuff.

This is what I have been able to pull together from this thread and other experiences. Please correct me and help me make this as accurate as possible, especially since there seems to be a LOT of variation between people's experiences.

IMPORTANT NOTE: As someone else pointed out, there are two forms of 5-Meo-DALT out there, the BROWN HCL SALT which seems to be mostly from a batch 2 or 3 years ago and the WHITE FREEBASE form which seems to be the current batch going around. This summary is for the white freebase form (most relevant to my interests ;))

Smoked: 10-20mg
Expect 5-10 minutes of "eye-gasm" with a quick on-set, quick drop-off. Open eyed visuals, euphoria. No lasting effects.
Still Unknown: Coherence? (as in can I do a math problem? Can I hold a conversation? Can I be out in public?) Closed eye visuals? Entactogen? (as in do tactile sensations get amplified? Does it make you horny? Could you even get it up?)

Oral: 30-100mg
Euphoric, touchy-feely, no open eyed visuals, lots of closed eye visuals, mood enhancer, music amplifier. Excellent coherence throughout, 4 hours start to finish. Expect no difference in which effects you experience in this range, only the strength of the effect changes. No lasting effects.
Still Unknown: Best way to take orally is... dissolved in water? dissolved in alcohol? gel capsule? parachute? dump it on your tongue and wash it down? put it under your tongue?

Thanks guys, lets keep the trip reports coming, we're at that crucial stage where the flow of information is of utmost importance.
 
i only have done two trials with this compound, less than 10mg vaporized on foil. the first effect i notice is a sense of heart-pounding in the chest-- BPM does not seem to go up appreciably, but there is an uncomfortable throbbing that makes me want to get a professional blood pressure check with an arm cuff.

"can i be out in public?" since vaporizing this substance requires a pretty shady-looking pipe or foil, you're not going to be smoking it in public in the first place, and the effects are so short i don't see how you would even get to "public" before they dissipate.

"coherence": my doses were low to be on the safe side, but I did not experience much in terms of visuals. i could hold a conversation, but the uncomfortable body feeling made me want to lay down and breathe deeply. there seems to be some level of stimulation, perhaps an anxiety-like adrenaline response to the rapid onset. i couldn't really put my finger on how it made me feel, besides that it was 'very strange'. note that this is my first non-4-position tryptamine, so it is possible that voyagers familiar with DMT/DPT/5-MeO-MIPT and friends will be more able to manipulate the headspace of this one.

entactogenic sensation in fingertips and face/neck makes me think this could get very pleasurable in slightly higher dose, but i'm afraid to bump it up until i get some solid BP/HR readings. i haven't tried, but i could probably get it up under the influence of this stuff cuz i'm usually incredibly horny all the time anyway.

as far as oral dosing goes, if this stuff is indeed freebase (since it vaporizes so easily at low temperature) it will not be water-soluble. you need to add some kind of acid (acetic/vinegar, citric/lemon, etc etc etc) so it will dissolve in water. obviously in a gel-cap or parachute it will form a soluble hydrochloride salt when it contacts the stomach acid. i would not recommend sublingual administration because of the causticity of free bases, but it is probably active via this method.

edit: i have to mention that with my two small trials with this compound, absolutely no pupil dilation was noted. if anything, a slight pupil constriction was seen, but that could be placebo or the fact that i was staring into my eyes in the harsh bathroom mirror light.
 
^^About the "being in public" thing, I'm just trying to get a feel for how together you are, I hope nobody is stupid enough to actually do this out in public.

How long did your smoked dosage last? By low dosage do you mean 5-10mg or 10-15mg when you smoked it?
 
Tried smoking 5-MeO-DALT last night with a couple friends. Here's what happened:
1. All three of us smoked about 8mg. My girl and I felt nothing, my boy felt something but was having trouble differentiating it from the whippits we were doing (don't judge us, we wanted something in case smoking the DALT didn't work)
2. About an hour later, all three of us smoked about 15mg. My girl felt nothing, but my boy and I both felt something within 30 seconds, and it kept going up for another 3 or 4 minutes, at which point we both reached a peak completely indistiguishable (to us, both experienced rollers) from rolling balls... that highly euphoric, super tactile, short of breath, eyes rolling back in the head kind of rolling balls. Baseline within 45 minutes, effects came in very distinct waves. I felt short of breath/a tightness in my chest on the come up, my girl checked my pulse and pressure though and I was fine. Tastes awful but a quick hit from the volcano fixed that.
 
greenmeanies said:
i only have done two trials with this compound, less than 10mg vaporized on foil. the first effect i notice is a sense of heart-pounding in the chest-- BPM does not seem to go up appreciably, but there is an uncomfortable throbbing that makes me want to get a professional blood pressure check with an arm cuff.

"can i be out in public?" since vaporizing this substance requires a pretty shady-looking pipe or foil, you're not going to be smoking it in public in the first place, and the effects are so short i don't see how you would even get to "public" before they dissipate.

"coherence": my doses were low to be on the safe side, but I did not experience much in terms of visuals. i could hold a conversation, but the uncomfortable body feeling made me want to lay down and breathe deeply. there seems to be some level of stimulation, perhaps an anxiety-like adrenaline response to the rapid onset. i couldn't really put my finger on how it made me feel, besides that it was 'very strange'. note that this is my first non-4-position tryptamine, so it is possible that voyagers familiar with DMT/DPT/5-MeO-MIPT and friends will be more able to manipulate the headspace of this one.

entactogenic sensation in fingertips and face/neck makes me think this could get very pleasurable in slightly higher dose, but i'm afraid to bump it up until i get some solid BP/HR readings. i haven't tried, but i could probably get it up under the influence of this stuff cuz i'm usually incredibly horny all the time anyway.

as far as oral dosing goes, if this stuff is indeed freebase (since it vaporizes so easily at low temperature) it will not be water-soluble. you need to add some kind of acid (acetic/vinegar, citric/lemon, etc etc etc) so it will dissolve in water. obviously in a gel-cap or parachute it will form a soluble hydrochloride salt when it contacts the stomach acid. i would not recommend sublingual administration because of the causticity of free bases, but it is probably active via this method.

edit: i have to mention that with my two small trials with this compound, absolutely no pupil dilation was noted. if anything, a slight pupil constriction was seen, but that could be placebo or the fact that i was staring into my eyes in the harsh bathroom mirror light.
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Same thing happened to me, i smoked a little and got a nice body buzz and little oev so i decided to make it a full on trip, and smokd a prety big hit, (probably 10-20mg, not sure though..) my heart started pounding and i felt like i couldn't sit still real, i had a crazy body buzz but i was not liking it at the time and it felt like it was hard to breathe.. the really bad effects faded lasting in 5-10 minutes and left me me feelin kind of speeded out and not good.

all my friends smoked some in small amounts and liked the shit though.
 
Coolio said:
Has anyone tried a large dose of 5-MeO-DALT, like 120mg or 180mg?

This one is starting to sound like 2C-C to me... everyone describes 2C-C as light or mild or easy or gentle or whatever... but they take 1/4 the maximum dose that I do. I found 2C-C to be like the psilocin of phenethylamines at 150mg oral.
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No but i have injected it and it was so damn overwhelming id advise on sticking to small doses even if orally injested.Thankfully it just lasted 30min or so but boy,oh boy i hadnt a clue what was going on.So be careful!!
 
barafundle said:
No but i have injected it and it was so damn overwhelming id advise on sticking to small doses even if orally injested.Thankfully it just lasted 30min or so but boy,oh boy i hadnt a clue what was going on.So be careful!!
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ive also just in the past 30min got some foil and made it up like to chase heroin,put some 5 MEO-Dalt on it and chased.It ran clear (and long if enough was on but its not street heroin,this just needs a llittle so that point is moot)
and gave me nearly an instant trip.Not as quick as injecting it did obviously but quick enough,and more enjoyable.I guess,using heroin as a comparison again (i used to be an addict) when chasing its much more controllable,so YOU decide when youve had enough or not,when injecting,when its in then you just have to ride it.Thats what went wrong when i injected 5 MEO,allthough i just put a small amount on the spoon,it hit me all at once and overwhelmed me,whereas when i chased it,after each line i decided if that was enough or not.What ill say about both ways though,is eventhough the quickness of trip and the intensity it doesnt last AT ALL long.When i took it orally i had the best trip on it for 4 hrs,so its what you personally look for i guess.
What ever you do though PLEASE be careful.More so if you decide to be stupid enough to inject MEO as i thought id be in the crazy house by morning.Seriously.And i honestly think if id felt like that for more than the 30min it took to wear off id have had to have been taken somewhere :( dont do it,its FAR too overwhelming to enjoy.Any of you who have taken salvia before knows how intense that can be yes?Well thats nothing near it,so please be warned.
Stay safe and well!!
 
is there any other way to distingiush 5-meo-dalt white free base form from say jus other crystalish white powder, swim has crystalish white powder(sold as dalt, but does not trust vendor
 
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