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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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oh by the way, may be a pretty dumm ass question, but whats the different between freebase and HCL (actually what HCL stands for)???
 
HCL is the hydrochoride salt. From what I've seen MDAI comes in base form, which is not active intranasally, only orally. Where as the salt is active intranasally.

20mg of amphet is fine to begin with, but I'd say this is a lowish dose. From what I believe there is no problem with redosing on MDAI.
 
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HCL is the hydrochoride salt. From what I've seen MDAI comes in base form, which is not active intranasally, only orally. Where as the salt is active intranasally.

20mg of amphet is fine to begin with, but I'd say this is a lowish dose. From what I believe there is no problem with redosing on MDAI.
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ok... Ill parachute 150 mg plus 20 (would 40 be too much) mg d-amph...

again, thanx for your help...
 
^ that depends on your tolerence to d-amphet when taken alone. Though a lower dose is required with taken in combination, so best to start with 20mg amphet, then take more if desired(But best not to over do the amphet, due to excess stimulation). Please report back and tell us how it went!
 
organicshroom said:
^ that depends on your tolerence to d-amphet when taken alone. Though a lower dose is required with taken in combination, so best to start with 20mg amphet, then take more if desired(But best not to over do the amphet, due to excess stimulation). Please report back and tell us how it went!
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I have not ever taken d-amph by it self, though im pretty sure ive taken them a few LOTS of times with "X" pills without knowing it....but its not like I roll every weekend, try to stay off all drugs (not hard, since I only take pills, no coke or anything els) at least for a mounth and a half, then have one "big party" or 2 in a span of 1 mounth and then go clean again for 1 month or month and a half...
 
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Hi, good evening all

Haven't read the whole post, but what do people think MDAI would go like with;

A) caffeine ? (is it that sedating that say 100mg of caffeine would not help to give it a stim feeling).
b) alcohol ?
c) caffeine and alcohol?
 
torturedrainbow said:
... On a slightly different vein -

This is an extract of an email which I received today from a popular legals site -

"Dear Customer

New Products:

We are pleased to announce we have a new legal product to replace
Mephedrone, the new product is called Naphyrone, Energy-1,
Naphthylpyrovalerone, O-2482 or NRG-1 and is a much superior plant
feed in comparison to Mephedrone. All details and prices etc can be
found in our online store please click the link below!"

Superior in what way? Mephedrone has everything that naphyrone doesn't. This is however, just my humble opinion. There may be people out there who think differently (not many I suspect though)
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That's pure bollocks. And dangerous bollocks at that. NRG-1 and Energy-1 are completely different drugs with the latter being an order of magnitude more potent. I'd struggle to think of a single positive user review of either product. NRG-1 (sold as "naphyrone") is pure crap in my opinion. Not tried Energy-1 but no-one has a good word to say about it either really. Neither are even remotely like mephedrone. Not even a little bit. They feel more like taking SSRIs to be honest. They're nowt to do with - or similar to - MDAI either.

O-2482 aka Naphthylpyrovaleron aka NRG-1
 
MDAI sounds like a great combo drug. I bet it would be nice to have a 200mg dose at the tail end of a stim sesh. Some euphoria yet theraputic and chilled. Just what you want after stims :)
 
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That's pure bollocks. And dangerous bollocks at that. NRG-1 and Energy-1 are completely different drugs with the latter being an order of magnitude more potent. I'd struggle to think of a single positive user review of either product. NRG-1 (sold as "naphyrone") is pure crap in my opinion. Not tried Energy-1 but no-one has a good word to say about it either really. Neither are even remotely like mephedrone. Not even a little bit. They feel more like taking SSRIs to be honest. They're nowt to do with - or similar to - MDAI either.

O-2482 aka Naphthylpyrovaleron aka NRG-1
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Completely agree. Loads of vendors are spouting similar crap. Some are even stating that MDAI and DMC are more potent replacements for Mephedrone. It seems that they will claim just about anything to sell their wares.
 
Not 1 person has tried this with opiates yet?

Anyone tried this with any of the research chems available in the US?
 
^ Tried once with 3-FMC, which was quite enjoyable. Though the euphoria was short lived due to me having a intranasal dose of 3-fmc 30-45mins before the MDAI. I'd reccomend trying with an oral dose of each taken together.

I highly reccomend MDAI with methylone, really brings out the empathy and seems to balance out the excessive stimulation.
 
Only if intended for human consumption right? My understanding is that some are illegal if intended for human consumption while others are illegal to possess right off the bat.

Can Methylone be bought in the US?


I was thinking about dosing a spider with some of these chems (Assuming its not barred the same way animal testing is) and observing the differences in their behavior....perhaps making a Youtube video of it.
 
Sometimes it's tricky to figure it out. There haven't been any test cases in the US although [depending on the circumstances] you would be hard pressed to prove it was for anything other than consumption.

I don't think bugs fall in the category of 'animal testing' so you're on your own for that one :P
 
I thought the government had to prove you were guilty rather than the victims of the law having to prove they are innocent. Its bad enough that the government imprisons and tortures people for self harm (drug use), but when you add the presumption of guilt that is not a good road to be on.
 
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If you have a legitimate qualification and a lab then you should be fine :|

careful with the vendor talk, i've had posts edited for similar discussion.
 
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What doses with 3-fmc organicshroom? How long did it last and how long was the comedown? Can you elaborate on this experience ?
I'm starting to like 3-fmc a lot and hope to try this combination next.

First MDAI experience was after 3 hours of methylone 150 mg and 4acoDIPT 15 mg orally. Smoked a few hits of DPT freebase during the peak. Once the former were wearing off 4 hours later (at least the good part), took 100mg MDAI orally and got a nice, empathogenic rush after about 45 minutes lasting about an hour. Comedown after that was long rocky; not sure if the methylone or the MDAI or both were responsible. Overall the combo was interesting but not underwhelming. 3-fmc is a nice clean stimulant at reasonable doses and might make for a better combination.
 
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Only if intended for human consumption right? My understanding is that some are illegal if intended for human consumption while others are illegal to possess right off the bat.
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Consumption is one legal hurdle for conviction. Never discuss anything (not even the weather) with law enforcement and never carry chemicals in capsules.
 
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