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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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again, in the thread but now buried:

insufflation with the salt works poorly. insufflation with the freebase doesn't work (thus delayed oral admin via nasal drip).
 
How do you think MDAI would work in combination with a low dose of opiates?


I already take opiates for chronic pain which I am hoping will resolve itself with the new medication I am taking. Would it be more dangerous in combination? I dont take heroic doses of my medication, just wondering if it would add to the euphoria or danger of it.
 
I'd imagine unwanted levels of sedation, but if you're near a 'maintenance dose', I bet you'd be fine. It should not be dangerous, and euphoria should at least be additive.

ebola
 
again, in the thread but now buried:

insufflation with the salt works poorly. insufflation with the freebase doesn't work (thus delayed oral admin via nasal drip).

I disagree. Insufflation of the salt "works" fine - it also caused a sinus infection on one occasion, and on another, nasal irritation (low level infection?) lasting weeks.

Bad stuff to snort. Pity too, because the quick effect is pretty cool.
 
I'd imagine unwanted levels of sedation, but if you're near a 'maintenance dose', I bet you'd be fine. It should not be dangerous, and euphoria should at least be additive.

ebola


I hope you are right. Anyone ever tried this who is just on a maintenance dose?
 
has anyone tried nitrous while on MDAI? I'm interested what it would be like. I have been underwhelmed by doing nitrous with mephedrone/methylone, but adore it when combined with psychedelics (shrooms/LSD etc).
 
has anyone tried nitrous while on MDAI? I'm interested what it would be like. I have been underwhelmed by doing nitrous with mephedrone/methylone, but adore it when combined with psychedelics (shrooms/LSD etc).

Insane , most intense nos experience ever at Least for me nom nom

sadly our supplier has not yet restocked mdai probably tied up with some rubbish to do with the mephedrone hubbub that's happened in China . Let us hope that eventually there will be more but I'm not holding my breath. *wanders off in search of another supplier*
 
Recently I have been bombarded with offers for MDAI, but I cant really talk about it on the main boards. The only problem is that they want me to buy quantity and I dont want that much. If I had maybe 4 interested people it could work. Oh well.
 
mdai experience

Hey,

long time since last thread so here goes.

Been a huge lover of Mephedrone, to be honest, brutally honest, I was in a stae of abject pannic when it was banned - Was it banned after thorough scientific research, as it should be? Of course it wasn't. The media, again, caused mass hysteria based on inaccurate (mostly) accounts of deaths and so the politicians stepped in and rushed it through. I did experience side effects at the beginning (fainting) but they soon passed. Brilliant, now what. My sweet prince was gone, for good. If I ever saw him again he would be a shadow of his former self.

Of course I knew that there would be measures in place to make a replacement, but would they be any good. Of course the vendors say that they will be just as good if not better, but their trying to sell a product aren't they?

Ordered some MDAI off tinternet and its here, as I type, the experience is as follows -

Male - 190lbs
age - 36
Recreational background - Quite literally allsorts
ROA - oral
Dose - 250mg

Measured out 250mg and made a bomb via a skin, dropped it and waited. Yes this seems like a largeish dose, but if it was going to be any good experience told me that the first time is the best, and I've ALWAYS regretted not taking more of something the first time I took it.

Effects were noticed almost exactly an hour in, but I had read about this and was expecting it. Felt like I had just had a bit of a smoke, was starting to talk a fair bit, talking and conversation was easy, but it was good to be on my own also. 15 minutes after first effects I started to notice sedating effects, quite heavy but good, quite spacey - good little euphoria, just sort of lay there watching tv for a bit, even crap was interesting.

No stimulant effect, but good, sort of spaced out but I could still do reasonably complex tasks if I wanted to, but I didn't. Glad I took the little extra as anything less I feel would have been a little disapointing. Nice buzz though. I have read reports that this stuff would blend smoothly with a decent stimulant, I agreed that this would be a good idea also.

In my mephedrone days I discovered that mixing 40mg of naphyrone (yeah I know, dodgey shit) took me to a whole different level, it hit you much quicker, lasted longer and the buzz was immence. It just so happened that I had a small quantity. I used only 20mg (I don't advise this, but I'm reckless, it's in my nature) and stuck it up my right nostril. My present buzz was still increasing and was real nice. The effect was VERY quick. I last had the real deal MDMA about 10 years ago (after that it was pretty much impossible to get real mdma) and this was quite close, different to the intense euphoria of mephedrone, this creeps up on you and you may get fooled into thinking that its not working and take more, but dont, it just takes a while. The combo was good, I'm off my face, pretty spaced out, want to stop typing and go chill to tunes, or something. Very enjoyable, I had obviously done a bit of research on it and heard varying reports as to it's potency, ranging from mild to moderate. I'd say it's definately worth a try and what with it being non-neurotoxic, well that only adds to the appeal.

Pretty much out of my tits now, quite strong but handleable. Feel a bit horney. Mouth is dry, pupils are normal. Heart rate elevated slightly.

A couple of hours in and there's no sign of the buzz subsiding. I had read that though, takes a bit to come on but lasts a while.

If you are concidering this chemical I would recommend the oral route as there is no wastage and it's more cost effective.

Going to a couple of festivals this summer, among other chemicals I think that this one may be tagging along with us, it's well worth a try.

Going away to enjoy the rest of the buzz, will report back with the after affects/comedown etc

Be kind to each other

Peace.
 
Please dont flame me. Im aware of the awfulness of RCs etc but i rather break my body than break the law. Please spare me you opinions of what i put inside myself.

Out of all the current non cathinone RCs, which mix will resemble MDMA the most....

I was thinking MDAI and Naphyrone
or MDAI and D2PM
or all 3.

Taken in combination, moderate to high doses.

Any other oppinions would be nice. I dont have money for a custom synth, so must be in the wild.
MDAI doesn't look too terribly promising on its own.... well after reading the post above this one, i seem a bit more convinced

edit: did the person posting above me just say he took MDAI with naphyrone or was it just a drug induced ramble about the good old days of mephedrone ;)
 
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^ This is just speculative, but I'd say mixing Naphyrone with MDAI will block the effects of MDAI. Due to Naphryone being a pure reuptake inhibitor of serotonin, blocking the uptake of MDAI, dampening it's ability to release serotonin.
 
^ Talk about a buzz kill, that would of been rather dissapointing! Reminds me of how I once twisted my ankle on methylone and took anti-inflammatory drugs which also unusally killed my buzz, but at least I could walk on my foot for a while. :)
 
Please dont flame me. Im aware of the awfulness of RCs etc but i rather break my body than break the law. Please spare me you opinions of what i put inside myself.

Out of all the current non cathinone RCs, which mix will resemble MDMA the most....

I was thinking MDAI and Naphyrone
or MDAI and D2PM
or all 3.

Taken in combination, moderate to high doses.

Any other oppinions would be nice. I dont have money for a custom synth, so must be in the wild.
MDAI doesn't look too terribly promising on its own.... well after reading the post above this one, i seem a bit more convinced

edit: did the person posting above me just say he took MDAI with naphyrone or was it just a drug induced ramble about the good old days of mephedrone ;)

Yes it was MDAI +naphyrone and yeah it was also a drug induced rambling about the good old mephedrone days :)

Following on from yesterdays experiment with 250mg - MDAI + 20mg naphyrone combo -

Hangover - none

Took 100mg last night when main effects were subsiding - very little response. Once the former effects had subsided 150mg - very little compared to the initial dose. Does not appear to step dose as in mephedrones case. The tolerence of MDAI is shocking, the main issue regarding frequency of use may well be finding your tolerance periods.

I stated in my initial report that the combo of MDAI + naphyrone was most efficacious. Less than 10 minutes after posting the report the effects were all but gone, leaving a non descript stim feeling tagging along. I have tried naphyrone as a combo with most of the cathinones and found it to be extremely usefull. With MDAI this would not appear to be the case, on this occasion. I will not be repeating the combo with a higher dose of naphyrone (allthough it seems logical that this may create the desired effect, as it initially appeared to) as the chem's just to dangerous.

I will however repeat that MDAI is worth a look at. I enjoyed myself yesterday. I can't see that there will be addiction issues, many reports, state that there was no craving once the gear had ran out, couple that to the hideous immediate tolerance.

The buzz is ok, but this chem, I fear, is not a decent replacement for any of the cathinones, maybe the "upcoming products" will be.

On a slightly different vein -

This is an extract of an email which I received today from a popular legals site -

"Dear Customer

New Products:

We are pleased to announce we have a new legal product to replace
Mephedrone, the new product is called Naphyrone, Energy-1,
Naphthylpyrovalerone, O-2482 or NRG-1 and is a much superior plant
feed in comparison to Mephedrone. All details and prices etc can be
found in our online store please click the link below!"


Superior in what way? Mephedrone has everything that naphyrone doesn't. This is however, just my humble opinion. There may be people out there who think differently (not many I suspect though)

Makes my bottom lip tremble and my heart sink when I'm reminded of Mephedrone, woe is me.


Be kind to each other
Peace
 
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This is just speculative, but I'd say mixing Naphyrone with MDAI will block the effects of MDAI. Due to Naphryone being a pure reuptake inhibitor of serotonin, blocking the uptake of MDAI, dampening it's ability to release serotonin.

And one trip report appears to corroborate such. I'd say that the only exceptions to such logic would be agents that block SERT but with very low binding affinities...but these exceptions are rare to nonexistent, given the relatively low potency of pretty much all entactogens.

ebola
 
hi guys, I've read throught the 31 pages so far, and it seems this chem its pretty good, but will need some help... I cannot get mdpv nor methylone, but i can get some MPH or some dextroamphetamine, wich one do you guys think will be the best combo? I was thinking to take 150 mg MDAI and 20 mg adderall... what do you guys think?
 
^ dextroamphet would be a suitable and effective combination with MDAI, as it will balance the substrate release equation to closely mimic the effects of mdma. Though, d-amphet would outlast MDAI, so you may experience alot of residual stimulation once the empathetic quality of MDAI wears off. I do suggest, take it easy on combining both till you see how you react with them in combination. You can always take more of each. Also do note, that adding amphet does make MDAI neurotoxic, though this may arguability be no more signifcant than MDMA on its own.
 
^so I can redose with MDAI no problem? would another 50 mg or 100 mg after 2 - 3 hours will help to keep the effect going???

20 mg. of d-amph would be fine?

Thanx for your answer...
 
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