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NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

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It applies to all codeine containing OTC products. So the only thing we will be able to get without an Rx now is 24 packs... I'M SO FUCKED.

Thankfully some places is still carrying them 100 packs, snatch them up while you can!

Not really, u can go to multiple shops and buy them. Its just a little bit of extra time and hassle. Lets just hope it wont be tracked like pseudo cos then wed be all fuked.
 
^ haha yeh, I get a hard enough time as it is as all my local chemists recognise me. I just stocked up on a new-ish el-cheapo brand, proven plus. I'll report back as to how they filter compared to nurofen/panafen etc tonight :)

Knowing me and my (lack of) willpower my stockpile won't last long though....
 
Not really, u can go to multiple shops and buy them. Its just a little bit of extra time and hassle. Lets just hope it wont be tracked like pseudo cos then wed be all fuked.

I suppose... with my tolerance that's four different pharmacies and also it will be more expensive now MAN I am really craving some codeine right now, I love codeine when I'm having manic episodes they just seem to be so synergistic like they go together like bread and butter, wait no it's not like bread and butter it's more like amphetamines and opioids good combination that's what it's like good feeling man but then eventually I have to come down from the mania which sucks and then I have to have a depressive episode which sucks as well but the codeine can help with that as well! Maybe I will just have to let my tolerance get down a bit so it's easier to use codeine, if I wait a couple of months or so I would be able to use 480mg again maybe? I hope so!
 
It applies to all codeine containing OTC products. So the only thing we will be able to get without an Rx now is 24 packs... I'M SO FUCKED.

Thankfully some places is still carrying them 100 packs, snatch them up while you can!

The pharmacist I was talking to said that most brands are creating a new 40 pack since that is allowed to be sold over the counter with the new laws.
 
^ I think anything over a 5 day supply of codeine is going to be Rx only, so that would be legal I guess... interesting, thanks for the info Jesus!
 
Maybe I will just have to let my tolerance get down a bit so it's easier to use codeine, if I wait a couple of months or so I would be able to use 480mg again maybe? I hope so!

that's going to be your best bet, brother. or come down with a case of diarrhea predominant IBS for the pure tabs :D

when i taper down every other month (after using a lot of IV morphine) i manage to get a decent hit off the 4-500mg range within 2-3 weeks, albeit it very short lived in both duration and days effective because tolerance to codeine for myself goes up quickly.

my doctor mentioned to me today that he got a call from the authorities about the extra codeine (the pure 30mg tabs, they're kept an eye on as well) i receive on top of my morphine through the month. it was one of those friendly reminders that he may be giving me too much so has to cut down on those scripts which isn't an issue anymore.
 
I suppose... with my tolerance that's four different pharmacies and also it will be more expensive now MAN I am really craving some codeine right now, I love codeine when I'm having manic episodes they just seem to be so synergistic like they go together like bread and butter, wait no it's not like bread and butter it's more like amphetamines and opioids good combination that's what it's like good feeling man but then eventually I have to come down from the mania which sucks and then I have to have a depressive episode which sucks as well but the codeine can help with that as well! Maybe I will just have to let my tolerance get down a bit so it's easier to use codeine, if I wait a couple of months or so I would be able to use 480mg again maybe? I hope so!

I find that leaving out 2 weeks is the best to drop ur tolerance down. I know its hard once u start getting into the habit. I should take a break also. Ive up my dose to 800mg and 50-60mg oxy and it still doesnt do much. Half a g of H in 2 days? :!

So i suggest waiting atleast 2 weeks before u dose again and u will def see a massive difference. Worked well for me.
 
It applies to all codeine containing OTC products. So the only thing we will be able to get without an Rx now is 24 packs... I'M SO FUCKED.

Thankfully some places is still carrying them 100 packs, snatch them up while you can!

Seriously consider suboxone man, it will give you a small buzz like that of codeine and if opiates really help your condition that much then the the bupe will really help out here.

Not to mention it is only $25 a week no matter the dose, no more pharm shopping which will be a huge load off your back as well.
 
yeah dude, honestly with codeine, its just one of those things that's not too hardcore. Maybe i just didn't pursue a drug that wasn't providing me with a high anymore.
 
trying not to veer from the topic at hand but;
i recently extracted 17 N+ tablets (totaling approx. 217mgs) and ingested on an empty stomach, after having approx 2 standard drinks 30mins prior
i felt very minimal effects, just slightly tired and content, nothing even remotely strong

this seems to be synonymous with all my other codeine efforts
i can't seem to get 'high' off it, regardless of my dose (note i have taken opiates maybe 5 times in my life)
i was just looking for some input, anyone else have this problem?
i've basically given up on codeine now, this was merely to confirm my lack of effects felt from it

note: i crushed pills, added water, cooled, filtered (after wetting filter), wrung-out, re-filtered binder mush with freshwater to extract any lingering codeine
so i don't believe it is related to the extraction :\

cheers for any insight
peace.
:)
 
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Try 400mg with 25mg of promethazine ingested 30-45minutes prior, eat before hand so it doesn't wreak havoc on your stomach, nothing major though, just a small sandwich perhaps.

As for your extraction it sounds good but try this. Get two of those microfibre silky sunglasses bags from your local optometrist, when I went there 4 years ago they gave them to me for free as they had so many out the back.

Pour your icey solution of approx 250ml water and 48 crushed tablets of 500 + 10 of chemists own painkillers. Make sure they are tabLETS (not tabsules) used to be the best back in the day when I used to do this.

Get a funnel in a glass, put one bag inside the other and put them in the funnel, pour the liquid in topping up as required and wait 2-3 minutes. Once most the liquid has drained and its just white sludge start squeezing the the bags, being as they are microfibre you can give them hell and the solution will still be crystal clear.

If you try this with no opiate tolerance I would be very surprised if you didn't get a reasonable high. No drinks though as you'll be doing a significantly higher dose, also the promethazine is essential so you don't go red and have a massive allergic reaction. Can be bought over the counter as phenergan 12.5 and 25s, get a 25 pack so you only need 1 tablet.
 
balance of the universe has been raped. 30 packs of nurofen are on the shelves i am sure 40 packs of panadiene will follow
 
trying not to veer from the topic at hand but;
i recently extracted 17 N+ tablets (totaling approx. 217mgs) and ingested on an empty stomach, after having approx 2 standard drinks 30mins prior
i felt very minimal effects, just slightly tired and content, nothing even remotely strong

this seems to be synonymous with all my other codeine efforts
i can't seem to get 'high' off it, regardless of my dose (note i have taken opiates maybe 5 times in my life)
i was just looking for some input, anyone else have this problem?
i've basically given up on codeine now, this was merely to confirm my lack of effects felt from it

note: i crushed pills, added water, cooled, filtered (after wetting filter), wrung-out, re-filtered binder mush with freshwater to extract any lingering codeine
so i don't believe it is related to the extraction :\

cheers for any insight
peace.
:)

Maybe you're a poor metabolizer? Something like 10% of the population just can't convert most of the codeine to morphine. Your extraction sounds fine, so that's probably the issue.

Honestly, if 40 packs are going to be the standard now, I'm not sure it's even that big a hit to my ability to buy in large quantities. For every pharmacy that's willing to sell me a 48 or 96 box, there's one that won't, now they'll all be selling the 40's as standard, probably evens out.
 
^ Crankinit is on the mark, Hugs & Drugs you are probably a CYP2D6 poor metabolizer meaning you will get little out of codeine.

yeah dude, honestly with codeine, its just one of those things that's not too hardcore. Maybe i just didn't pursue a drug that wasn't providing me with a high anymore.

Most people can't pursue it too far... there are a few of us who can though, I've taken it up to 1.8 grams before. :\

I guess this would make me an extensive metabolizer... I wonder how much morphine I was getting out of that?
 
Most people can't pursue it too far... there are a few of us who can though, I've taken it up to 1.8 grams before.

I think whenever a statement like that is made, some explanation and warnings on dosage should be given for any newbees who might stumble upon this post.

Someone care to repeat the normal threshold dosages and LD50 please
 
^ yeh i find the histamine reaction i get completely unbearable at anything over about 500mg; and that's with me taking promethazine & doxylamine :(

For any new users reading the thread, I'm sure Mr Blonde had built up quite a tolerance before taking doses anywhere near that large.

http://codeine.50g.com/info/codeine.html said:
The LD50 for codeine is 800mg for average weighed non-tolerant adult person. The lowest reported lethal dose is 12mg/kg. The lethal dose varies and depends on many factors including weight, gender and developed tolerance to the drug.

Regarding codeine overdose:

fastandbulbous said:
At a toxic dose, you develop hyperreflexia and exhibit tonic/clonic convulsions not dissimilar to strychnine, if codeine is the only drug involved (when alcohol or other depressants are involved, it is back to the common cause - respiritory arrest). This is much more pronounced in other species, such that morphine has that sort of overdose profile for cats
 
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^ yeh i find the histamine reaction i get completely unbearable at anything over about 500mg; and that's with me taking promethazine & doxylamine :(

I did it a few times but you need something stupid like 50mg of promethazine to stop the histamine reaction which leaves you feeling cloudy and stupid for up to a day afterwards.

Haven't touched codeine in well over a year now though, not really missing it, you'd feel great for just over an hour then it would bring you down for the rest of the day.
 
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