NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

[drug_FUCKED]

I think whenever a statement like that is made, some explanation and warnings on dosage should be given for any newbees who might stumble upon this post.

Someone care to repeat the normal threshold dosages and LD50 please

I too have done large doses but i think dose's like that are not wise due to histamine reactions. I always only do 400mg at a time though but have over time done many repeated dose's. I think its a bit unwise because you get more APAP and the chances of too much increase. I think its wiser and more fun to mix it with DHC.

I found using CWE helpful to come off other opiates and its sad its going to be scripted some chemist are already being strict, saying they only have smaller packs and that it will be script only soon or already is. I doesn't bother me too much cause me tolerance is too high even after long break oh well

 

[helohihello]

I thought that the liver can't metabolize more than 400mg anyway? Why is anybody taking more than that?

I recently have seen soluble panadeine. Anyone know if there would be any way to CWE this? Would you just have to wait friggin ages for the panadol to sink to the bottom?
It's like soluble aspirin basically. I'll check the ingredients.

Maize Starch
Purified Talc
Pregelatinised Maize Starch
Povidone
Stearic Acid
Potassium Sorbate

Panadeine contains 500 mg
paracetamol and 8 mg codeine
phosphate as active ingredients.

Not sure how they taste though. I've always found codeine tastes like absolute shit but about 5-10 seconds in to drinking you get this sweet sweet taste all throughout your mouth. Best taste ever lol

Anyway, has anyone else noticed a massive increase in the amount of panadeine ads on tv since these restrictions?

 

[rolls_]

I thought that the liver can't metabolize more than 400mg anyway? Why is anybody taking more than that?

That is the agreed average amount, everyone varies so some people can't even metabolise that much, others can metabolise even more.

I know people that just go incredibly red and get no pain relief from 120mg and there are people on here that claim to be able to take 1-2g and have the high just keep increasing.

Most people however will find that there is no benefit in taking more than ~400mg or that the amount of anti-histamines required to be taken at that amount are so high that it ruins the euphoria.

 

[hyroller]

^^^^ hehe I thought I was watching too much telly, but now that someone else has noticed I don't feel like such a couch potato

 

[coldasice]

I have friends who pop Nuros weekly, their argument is great.

"If it's sold OTC it's safe"

It's people like this who stop our MDMA, THC, etc from ever being legalised...

I agree. I know people who make that arguement, and I've pointed out to them that alcohol and cigarettes are sold to anyone and everyone (over the age of 18 in the UK) but cirrhosis and lung/mouth/throat cancer and inevitable painful death are still rife.

I really think to combat codeine addiction and whatnot, there should be more self-help sites. If the Pharmacy board want to make it asfer, they could easily set up a self-help website advising people who use it more than 3 days at a time, sparingly, that it's not shameful to see their GP for help and what they can do to avoid addiction etc and print the address on the box. Obv it wouldn't work for everyone but at least then they could say they're trying to combat the people who do misuse without having to cause the medical world to get super overworked whenever someone has a tooth abscess or period pain.

 

[chdza]

so has this already happened? if not when is the date?
thanks

 

[face__]

please read the rest of the thread. if you don't understand the situation after you do so feel free to pm and i will explain. we don't need anymore repetition in this thread

 

[TripppAR]

I went in and bought some yesterday for the first time in maybe 6-7 weeks! haha.. i was getting a little to into it! Around a gram a day... i was doing it every day for 6 weeks after i had stopped a little while previously. Had a mate come stay for that period and you always get more fucked up when you have someone to do it with..

But now my tolerance has dropped off again and the withdrawls! I was reaching a point where i couldnt sleep without it and shit. And i was pretty early in the WD stage so i basically thought i would quit while im ahead. The aches etc are not pleasent. You will think you will be right, as i did...even after reading people say the same thing i didjust then! haha. And i thought..nah fuck it, cant be that bad!

Well it is..


Anywho i went into my local chemist yesterday and got 2 x these new 30 packs panafen + are making. I just picked up 2.. its easy as. No need to shop around either really.. i was worried about it but after seeing the immergence of these new 30 packs i think things will be ok WHEN i feel like having it next!

My buddy also had it for the 2nd time yesterday due to a 3 hour wait after work before getting weed..so he succumbed to my offers! He only had 200mg's but later when he had a big cone he had to go sit outside for a little bit cause he was properly fucked haha. He said it brought the codeine on like crazy and he felt like he had 2 pills! hahaha..

 

[MrIbis]

To all you guys doing that much codeine you get w/ds... (edited out anger)

I mean shit it's been 3-4 years since i abused codeine, and its still useless!

 

[belarki]

^ come on that's a little harsh MrIbis.... an addiction is an addiction after all right? Be it nicotine, food, sex, or heroin. This isn't a dick sizing thread to declaim you're more hardcore than bluelighter XYZ because you've beaten a smack habbit.

(P.S. I've struggled with speed and alcohol addictions in the last decade so have some experience to speak of)

 

[phase_dancer]

I concur, no need for such comments. Please edit before a disgruntled mod does it.

I understand that people will have different feelings about this issue. I for one feel rather helpless, having watched a few people here go down this slippery road, yet I've been unable to prevent or even lessen any of these outcomes. It has certainly kept me awake at night on numerous occasions.

But it isn't our place to wave a stiff finger in such cases - unless it's personally asked for that is.

Some of you on this board probably consider yourselves to be reformed to a degree, wised up perhaps. Maybe that was all accomplished by simple willpower. But that doesn't place anyone on a throne, not around here anyway, and unless a person is standing in front of you asking for it, judgment-wakes up calls usually do nothing constructive, with those close to asking for help more likely to retreat away instead.

 

[MrIbis]

dude, my point is you have to go WAYYYYYYYYY to far with codeine to even cop withdrawals... like i was doing 500mg a day before i said get fucked... with no wd afterwards...

You think when you get to a point like that, you might as well start stocking up on OCs...

The only opiate ive ever had a drama with is smack (and its replacements).

I'm not discrediting anyone, i just wish people would use common sense.

 

[rolls_]

I'm not discrediting anyone, i just wish people would use common sense.

Addiction to codeine can be just as bad as addiction to something much stronger. My first codeine habbit was just as hard to break as a 2kg of poppy seed habbit, and the 2kg of seed was far far worse withdrawal and much stronger.

Counting 500mg as going way to far and then saying you might as well stock up on OCs, surely just 5 OCs gets you more high than 500mg of codeine, so by definition just a few OCs is going even further than 500 of codeine.

I don't really see your logic.

 

[phase_dancer]

I'm not discrediting anyone, i just wish people would use common sense.

As I said, I understand your frustration, it's more about manner of approach and how you'll be received. Thanks for editing btw

 

[MrIbis]

^No problems my friend... Early morning angers!

I think we have a fairly good understanding of eachother.. wouldn't you agree? hence why i figure you guys ask me to edit my posts instead of doing it for me or deleting them

 

[belarki]

Yeh thanks for re-wording your post mribis :D I have a lot of respect for 99% of your comments but just thought that one was a bit severe. Though I do completely agree with you that if anyone is at the stage of having withdrawals from codeine they need to take a hard look at why they're abusing it.... and maybe start thinking about how much paracetamol/ibuprofen they're ingesting too.

Also remember that part of the attraction is that it is easy to obtian and dead cheap compared to harder (and more enjoyable ) opiates. Maybe a reasonable comparison between codeine & OC would be cask wine and single malt scotch?

 

[MrIbis]

^Yes.. entirely. i will hapily drink single-malt scotch and tell cask wine to fuck off any day of the week..

Perhaps we need to meet up and drink a johnnie red and coke one day my friend

 

[drug_mentor]

Not sure how they taste though. I've always found codeine tastes like absolute shit but about 5-10 seconds in to drinking you get this sweet sweet taste all throughout your mouth. Best taste ever lol

I mentioned this sweet aftertaste in either this thread or the extraction thread and nobody seemed to know what I was talking about! Last few times I have done it I never got it though.

The weird thing is most times I use codeine now I do it with a friend and often times we are using the same pills and always the same method to extract to the point I do hers for her so I KNOW its identical. Yet somehow, she has never noticed this sweet aftertaste I have been getting, weird!

 

[Sameria]

I get that aftertaste slightly after swallowing whole Nurofens (with codeine). No other brands have this aftertaste for me. It's almost like a fruity sweetness?

 

[Sustanon]

I find that its very bitter like sucking on a lemon skin. I usually mix it with sum cordial tho otherwise i start gagging. Not sure how u guys can manage to get it down.

Most codeine pills contain starch and when kept in the mouth for a long time an enzyme in the saliva called amylase begins to break down the starches into their constituent parts, and those parts are simply sugar. Thats why u have that sweetish after taste in your mouth. It can happen with a lot of other things as well.