Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread

[Sweet P]

What the fuck are you suppose to do when the most basic, obvious and EASY things become irrelevant and not even worth doing? I guess you can say, I literally dont want to and WILL NOT do anything when sober, and ONLY getting high can spring the motivation to do these things. This addiction would be a lot easier to kick IF I was able to actually WANT to do something and then actually doing it.

I feel exactly the same, and unfortunately I don't have any solutions. They say the motivation often slowly returns after being clean for a few months, but I dunno. I'm currently living with my parents due to money problems, and they can always tell when I'm on meth cos the house is tidy and I've had a shower and taken care of my appearance. They can just as easily tell when I'm not on meth, cos I just lie around doing nothing. It fucking sucks, cos I don't wanna be a sponge and a lay-about, but when I'm not using the pipe I just can't function.

 

[8ft-Sativa]

^ The doctors seem to be a lot stricter here in NZ. At least, the doctors I've seen were. I've asked for d-amp time and time again, and they keep refusing to prescribe it, even when I've told them that it's a much safer option than continuing to use meth. Last week I actually asked my drug nurse why the local drug & alcohol service won't prescribe them to me, and she said there were a number of reasons. I asked her what those reasons were, and she said the doctors were worried that it could worsen my addiction, and even that I might sell it on the streets to continue funding my meth habit. WTF? Seriously, they're a pack of dumb fucks.

Bro NZ doctors are strict as fuck! that's why it's very rare to find pharmies on the black market here even the only pharmie I have seen was Ritalin and that was only twice in my life.

You have to dive through flamming hoops just to get a small benzo script.

I know you were hoping to get a Amp script earlier this year and I was really hoping that would pull through for you. They are fucked!

 

[Sweet P]

^ I think it depends on the doc. My GP happily prescribes me benzos, knowing I'm an addict - although he's put me on a weekly dispense program so I can't abuse them. But CADS (the Community Alcohol & Drug Service) are assholes. Their therapy ain't working, and they're refusing to prescribe me the d-amps which I need, even though they've done it in the past for other meth addicts.

BTW, I'm a sis, not a bro.

 

[8ft-Sativa]

Fair enuff ow.

 

[hyroller]

Wow, if only Australian docs saw the logic in this kind of treatment - for those who are serious about stopping their use (but find this near impossible to achieve when your energy levels are thus reduced to a point beyond negligible for weeks at a time).....

there needs to be a way to ween oneself off this shit without adjourning all your life commitments due to constant, unmitigated fatigue

 

[Sweet P]

^ Agreed. And it doesn't make life easy when that constant, unmitigated fatigue can last for months on end.

 

[hyroller]

.....or especially when it does...

 

[Sweet P]

How's everyone doing?

This probably sounds stupid, but I'm feeling pretty shit at the moment cos I can't score any more meth until Wednesday. That's 2 days away. So today I've been filling the void with alcohol and benzos... god knows how I'm gonna get through tomorrow. I wish I could sleep through comedowns, but thanks to my insomnia that's impossible without the use of other drugs.

 

[deadhead507461]

How's everyone doing?

This probably sounds stupid, but I'm feeling pretty shit at the moment cos I can't score any more meth until Wednesday. That's 2 days away. So today I've been filling the void with alcohol and benzos... god knows how I'm gonna get through tomorrow. I wish I could sleep through comedowns, but thanks to my insomnia that's impossible without the use of other drugs.

I hear ya. I am stuck with none now. I keep crawling around on my floor with a flashlight, snorting any little thing that looks like glass. This sucks. I was thinking about stepping down to speed, just because its cheaper.. more for my money i guess.. does that sound like a good idea?

Those Seroquel did help me with the comedown last night tho on day 3 (50mg). I will keep taking them, I only have 8 left so I hope their isnt negative effects when you stop taking them suddenly...8)

 

[Sweet P]

^ Yeah I've been doing the carpet surfing thing too. It sucks, doesn't it?

Don't worry, there won't be any negative effects if you stop Seroquel suddenly.

 

[hyroller]

I think I'm actually finally beginning to get past my pathological desire to smoke/shoot ice.

This being largely due to the fact that pseudo-based ice is nearly impossible to come across anymore

I have (decent quality) meth sitting at home but I don't want it, in fact, I'll be happy to get rid of it (lol). I realise that the fact that it's sitting there and I don't wish to touch it makes me fucked in the head, cause whenever I don't have it around, I'm wracking my brains thinking of the best way to get hold of some (by the weekend).

So, there's that. I also promised myself that last week would be the last time I buy it for the rest of the year. I'm just getting sick of sneaking around my dad & would prefer to focus on paying my moutains of bills (largely incurred to said 3-year meth habit)

 

[mav3rick]

Hey all, haven't posted in a while (thought I had things under control) but I'm back. Hope everyone is doing well!

Wow, how things can change. Had a good job and lost it. Got put off because the company was downsizing due to the economy, so that's put a lot of pressure on me, both mentally and financially! Now that I really have nothing to do each day, all that enters my mind is getting high. There used to be a few other things to occupy my brain with, but not anymore. I'm finding myself thinking of doing crazy things just to score. Robbing people, committing crimes, getting loans out with no way of repaying them. It's all stupid shit, I know that, I really do. But it's doing my head in!

My laptop is busted too, great timing huh. Not having a reliable pc is super frustrating, I know most would be like 'pfft, thats nothing to complain about' but for me, it really is.. I don't have the $ to get it fixed either.. I was saying to another BLer the other day, how weird it is that we've got no issue with spending X amount on drugs, yet when it comes to something normal to spend money on, we complain and scrooge around..

No money + no job + no laptop = makes Mav a sad panda

Just wanna give a shout out to hyroller and sweetp! When I first started posting here they were super nice

Much love all, Mav

 

[Sweet P]

I think I'm actually finally beginning to get past my pathological desire to smoke/shoot ice.

This being largely due to the fact that pseudo-based ice is nearly impossible to come across anymore

I have (decent quality) meth sitting at home but I don't want it, in fact, I'll be happy to get rid of it (lol). I realise that the fact that it's sitting there and I don't wish to touch it makes me fucked in the head, cause whenever I don't have it around, I'm wracking my brains thinking of the best way to get hold of some (by the weekend).

So, there's that. I also promised myself that last week would be the last time I buy it for the rest of the year. I'm just getting sick of sneaking around my dad & would prefer to focus on paying my moutains of bills (largely incurred to said 3-year meth habit)

I've also racked up a huge amount of bills (also incurred during my meth habit), which I'm finally realising I need to pay off. My parents have bailed me out of debt more times than I can count, so I'll probably be owing them money for the rest of my life. Oh well. BTW, it's a good sign that you're able to sit on a bag of good meth and even consider getting rid of it! Props to you.

Hey all, haven't posted in a while (thought I had things under control) but I'm back. Hope everyone is doing well!

Wow, how things can change. Had a good job and lost it. Got put off because the company was downsizing due to the economy, so that's put a lot of pressure on me, both mentally and financially! Now that I really have nothing to do each day, all that enters my mind is getting high. There used to be a few other things to occupy my brain with, but not anymore. I'm finding myself thinking of doing crazy things just to score. Robbing people, committing crimes, getting loans out with no way of repaying them. It's all stupid shit, I know that, I really do. But it's doing my head in!

My laptop is busted too, great timing huh. Not having a reliable pc is super frustrating, I know most would be like 'pfft, thats nothing to complain about' but for me, it really is.. I don't have the $ to get it fixed either.. I was saying to another BLer the other day, how weird it is that we've got no issue with spending X amount on drugs, yet when it comes to something normal to spend money on, we complain and scrooge around..

No money + no job + no laptop = makes Mav a sad panda

Just wanna give a shout out to hyroller and sweetp! When I first started posting here they were super nice

Much love all, Mav

Shit, sorry to hear about all that Mav! I'm also unemployed, and the thought of getting high on P (or at least some kind of drug) is constantly playing on my mind. I think the trick is to distract yourself and find other ways to keep busy, but I know that's easier said than done! Hang in there, and don't do anything crazy just to score, missy!

 

[Sweet P]

Forgot to mention, I'm seeing my case manager from the drug service tomorrow (I was gonna see him earlier this week, but I was too drunk to go), and we're going to discuss medication again. I'm fucking hoping he's changed his mind and will prescribe me some dexies. Wish me luck, people!

 

[Kallisti]

Forgot to mention, I'm seeing my case manager from the drug service tomorrow (I was gonna see him earlier this week, but I was too drunk to go), and we're going to discuss medication again. I'm fucking hoping he's changed his mind and will prescribe me some dexies. Wish me luck, people!

Good luck Sweet P! I hope everything goes well. You deserve to have something good happen after struggling with everything the universe has thrown at ya lately. Let us know what happens

 

[2spun4one]

they aren't??? Sounds like you have never been prescribed adderral then because if you had been you would know that it's a medication you take daily just like any other.... I've never had a prescription for it myself either but know many that have... I wish I could get put on it cuz it is a perfect meth substitute...and it's easier to regulate. I get real good crystal, but my world comes to a halt if I run out & can't get more for longer than a two day stretch.... I love my crystal and it helps me where it seems to harm so many others. But it would be so nice to just get a months supply and know that when that's getting low another months suply is at the pharmacy! And for way cheaper too...shit I'd even but the name brand instead of generic!!

 

[Sweet P]

they aren't??? Sounds like you have never been prescribed adderral then because if you had been you would know that it's a medication you take daily just like any other.... I've never had a prescription for it myself either but know many that have... I wish I could get put on it cuz it is a perfect meth substitute...and it's easier to regulate. I get real good crystal, but my world comes to a halt if I run out & can't get more for longer than a two day stretch.... I love my crystal and it helps me where it seems to harm so many others. But it would be so nice to just get a months supply and know that when that's getting low another months suply is at the pharmacy! And for way cheaper too...shit I'd even but the name brand instead of generic!!

Nope, never been given a script for Adderall. I wish they would! I too get good meth, but the trouble is (like you) my life comes to a complete halt when I'm without it. I don't have the motivation or energy to do even the slightest thing. Plus nowadays I tend to get psychotic if I use too much meth and get sleep deprived. I know Adderall wouldn't do that if I used it responsibly, as I would. 8)

 

[Sweet P]

Another reason to quit meth... I scored 2 points today and they ain't doing shit. It's good crystal too. My tolerance is just sky-high. I thought the 2-3 day break I had recently might have been enough to lower it, but nope. Fucking useless.

 

[2spun4one]

Another reason to quit meth... I scored 2 points today and they ain't doing shit. It's good crystal too. My tolerance is just sky-high. I thought the 2-3 day break I had recently might have been enough to lower it, but nope. Fucking useless.

sounds like our lives are like looking into a mirror! u know its time to stop fighting it when you can't stop thinking you need to shut the fuck and stop trying to tell everybody everything!! Right now I'm 40 minutes outta vallejo ca headed to phoenix az and haven't slept in 4 days...but I'm rollin straight through the nite and know I'll rest once I'm there....its kinda fun stopping off every few miles and smokin out then back on the highway!!!

 

[Sweet P]

^ Be careful, dude. Driving without sleep for 4 days isn't exactly safe!