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Opioids how bad is my situation? it might be one of the worst ever...I need advice!

Sentience: There is no "drug "free" way of live anymore. I've been smoking weed everyday since I was 15, and now 21. have done coke and x and most regular (not RC) hallucinogenic. but obviously my DOC are opiates.

CH: at 8 hours should I iv a little suboxone first and then subligual? or just stick to the entire sublingual path?



i wouldnt even THINK about iv'ing/taking any bupe at 8 hours jeez your begging for precipitated withdrawal
 
i wouldnt even THINK about iv'ing/taking any bupe at 8 hours jeez your begging for precipitated withdrawal
Agreed... in my personal experience, I can dose 4mg suboxone under tongue the morning after I do anywhere from half a gram to a gram of above average quality black tar, IVed, and have no P/W. But the one time I IVed my suboxone (dose cut down to 2mg in this instance) after a usual night of using , I almost immediately felt the P/W...terrible, terrible...worse than regular ol' withdrawal. However I have IVed suboxone, a lot, in the past. This only happened once
 
Wait until you feel the real w/d to take the bupe. By this, I mean not the point where you can start to tell you're not high any more NOR the point where you start to feel a little off and your nose starts running, etc... It means the point when you know you are sick from w/d, and as soon as you feel you justifiably fit that description, you should be fine to take the bupe. The time in hours that you have to wait should really be thrown out the window as it is so variable between individuals.
 
Sentience: There is no "drug "free" way of live anymore. I've been smoking weed everyday since I was 15, and now 21. have done coke and x and most regular (not RC) hallucinogenic. but obviously my DOC are opiates.

CH: at 8 hours should I iv a little suboxone first and then subligual? or just stick to the entire sublingual path?



If you are happy with how you are living, I think thats awesome. People have the right to experiment with their own body and do what makes them happy.

However, if you feel unhappy about your situation, dont be a slave to it or sell yourself short. Even if you let go on one addiction you can still trip or smoke weed and have fun....I feel like stating this because with an addiction life can seem empty or without joy when you are going without your addictions, but things quickly improve once you get past detox.

Being in chronic pain makes quitting that much more difficult. At least I rarely up the dose to get a buzz. I just add other intoxicants to my maintenance dose.
 
I've been doing opiates for about a year and a half now. have tried almost every opiate, but have only been shooting them for about 6 months everyday. I use oxy bcuz that is all that is available. I live in south FL so it's very easy to find.

now here's my problem, I'm not like most people in the sense of where I take money out of the bank and go pay for drugs. I pick up a few blues and sell them to friends so I get mine for free and/or make a little money. But it's mainly just to maintain my habit. now recently business has been real good and I've gotten myself to the point now where I haven't even felt the full withdrawal pain in like 5 months...everyday I wake up with the chills and immediately do a shot. I've also been shooting about an average of 10-15 a day, one 30mg dose at a time sometimes 60mg.

so now I ask, how fucked am I really? after 6 hours from my last dose I start going into withdrawal, it's almost more like my brain is completely reliant on opiates and even 4 or 5 hours I feel w/d bcuz iv oxy is so shortlived. now given the fact that I haven't even gone longer than 10 hours without a dose is pretty hard to believe but it's true. I don't even get high anymore and I have a script for suboxone and want to stop but what scares me is if I feel like hell at 6 hours, how am I supposed to wait 18-24 hours to take this shit? and I almost feel like the suboxone won't even do anything bcuz of my massive tolerance.

so please any input is greatly appreciated. Im in college and used to play sports all the time and go out to the bars but I just don't do that stuff anymore. I end up sitting around all day shooting blues. I need help but just can't bring myself to do a last dose at 6 pm and wake up the next day hopefully around 8 in full w/d and then take the suboxone.

any related success/failure stories would be great, and thanks for taking your time to help me out.
phone, heroin and taking btween 250 and 300mgs od 'done.

i dont recomend that
i used subs to kick and ive only relapsed o 3 differint ocations.
if u can get into a in house detox, thats what i would do.
i no what u mean...i cant kick if i can score, however, inpatent d tox is a cake walk(if your dr gives the right meds.)
pm me if u got any ?. ive been useing for 7 yrs. and have done just about ever opiat. not bragging, just leting you no i have a bit of experince:(
good luck buddie

i was shootin 40mgs of hydromor
 
i wouldnt even THINK about iv'ing/taking any bupe at 8 hours jeez your begging for precipitated withdrawal

see but that's what I don't get. the reason I wake up every morning is bcuz I'm in w/d. not full blown but enuff to where I have to get something in me immediately bcuz I'm cold and got goosebumps and crawling skin. so should I dose at that point or wait like an hour or two?
 
benzos. clonazepam and alprazolam. or bupe. try one or the other before doing both, no need for two possible addictions. id be popping klonopin and xanax like a mad man if i was you for a few days, then maybe take some bupe for 1-3 days and drop off completely.
 
see but that's what I don't get. the reason I wake up every morning is bcuz I'm in w/d. not full blown but enuff to where I have to get something in me immediately bcuz I'm cold and got goosebumps and crawling skin. so should I dose at that point or wait like an hour or two?

I wanna know this too. Been waking up like you say every morning, freezing cold under my skin, no comfortable position, aches etc. Surely this means I can take Subutex right? Or do I have to wait another 12 hours (too long, impossible) ??
 
Sentience: There is no "drug "free" way of live anymore. I've been smoking weed everyday since I was 15, and now 21. have done coke and x and most regular (not RC) hallucinogenic. but obviously my DOC are opiates.

CH: at 8 hours should I iv a little suboxone first and then subligual? or just stick to the entire sublingual path?

you better have yourself a new needle.. if you use the same one that you put the oxy in, its gona mix with the bupe and your fucked..:p oxy w/d arnt that harrd who ever said do tramadol----->sub...NO. tramadol has way worse w/d then oxy even if you are IVing. And since you love getting high i know fursure after awhile on the tram your going to be upping your dose cause tramadol tolerance builds fast.
 
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